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Old 04-29-2011, 07:17 PM   #2981
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Ah, so this is what Fox News North has to offer. I put zero faith in the validity of this story until I see it reported by a real news agency, but let's just pretend for a second that it's 100% true.

Why should I care that Layton went to a rub & tug 15 years ago? I won't vote for his party because of their disastrous economic policies; what he did in his personal life before he was even involved in politics has no bearing on my voting preference at all.
This and the fact is that this is a pure smear campaign. Basically they've been sitting on this one for weeks and were waiting until it became apparent that he was a legitimate threat.

He was never charged, and his side is that he was there for a legitimate reason. The fact that the police thought that there was more going on there doesn't reflect on him IMO.

Frankly this almost makes me want to vote NDP. I don't think that this has any place in politics, and I would be very interested in knowing which party leaked this and why.
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Anders complaining that he has to run against someone this election:
Has he ever retracted any of his anti-Nelson-Mandella rhetoric?

Probably the only MP whose constituents are glad he his muzzled and kept in a locked trunk in the basement of the House of Commons.

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Old 04-29-2011, 07:20 PM   #2983
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This and the fact is that this is a pure smear campaign. Basically they've been sitting on this one for weeks and were waiting until it became apparent that he was a legitimate threat.

He was never charged, and his side is that he was there for a legitimate reason. The fact that the police thought that there was more going on there doesn't reflect on him IMO.

Frankly this almost makes me want to vote NDP. I don't think that this has any place in politics, and I would be very interested in knowing which party leaked this and why.
It could literally be any party if you think about it. The NDP is taking a bite out of everyone right now.
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Frankly this almost makes me want to vote NDP. I don't think that this has any place in politics, and I would be very interested in knowing which party leaked this and why.
Apparently the party that says it's okay to have hookers invited to 24 Sussex and biker molls with access to ministerial briefings.
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It could literally be any party if you think about it. The NDP is taking a bite out of everyone right now.
Sure, and I wasn't implying it was one over another. Although it is the Sun News Network, and given that the PMO Former Communications staffer runs the thing there are some pretty obvious connections to start the search.

On twitter the funny comments are about John Baird and hoping that since the Sun is staking out these establishments we can expect breaking news on him soon!

This whole thing is just ridiculous though. 15 years ago he stops by for a massage of some sort and this impacts things today how exactly? If the media isn't playing clips of the other leaders making political statements from the earlier part of this decade (about private health, building firewalls, invading Iraq,etc.) then how is this even possibly in bounds?
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This whole thing is just ridiculous though. 15 years ago he stops by for a massage of some sort and this impacts things today how exactly? If the media isn't playing clips of the other leaders making political statements from the earlier part of this decade (about private health, building firewalls, invading Iraq,etc.) then how is this even possibly in bounds?
I think the NDP platform is more than enough reason to not vote for them, but I agree, it's a non issue. I don't see why people should use it as an argument to vote against (or in your case, for) him. People get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, shouldn't be something that forms your decision for you.
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http://www.torontosun.com/2011/04/29...use-former-cop

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The officer's notebook indicates he asked the suspected john: "Did you receive any sexual services?"

He replied: "No sir, I was just getting a shiatsu."

The cop: "Why did you have all your clothes off?"

The suspected john: No answer.

The cop: "Are you aware that there were sex acts being done here?"

The suspected john: "No sir."

The woman, who was from mainland China, denied masturbating the suspected john but when the question was repeated became nervous and replied, "I don't know I only come to work today," the cop's notes show.

His notes also claim he saw the "female dump wet Kleenex into garbage."
Well, that changes my vote. Finally, a leader I can identify with.
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I think the NDP platform is more than enough reason to not vote for them, but I agree, it's a non issue. I don't see why people should use it as an argument to vote against (or in your case, for) him. People get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, shouldn't be something that forms your decision for you.
Well I'm not a big fan of the NDP and I think that I've made that fairly clear...if this was something that took place last night, fine-he deserves it. Instead this is a pure smear and it just makes me angry.
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:49 PM   #2990
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I have no idea where you and CC are getting that information from. The CPC has just said that they were in favour of cap and trade. They haven't actually given any details about their implementation of it at all.
Have you looked at their platform? Doesn't say cap and trade, but does make reference to working with / waiting for / synching up / (whatever the wording is) with the US.
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On a bit of a tangent, please let the Calgary Sun cover say something along the lines of

Jack Off his game heading into final days
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This and the fact is that this is a pure smear campaign. Basically they've been sitting on this one for weeks and were waiting until it became apparent that he was a legitimate threat.

He was never charged, and his side is that he was there for a legitimate reason. The fact that the police thought that there was more going on there doesn't reflect on him IMO.

Frankly this almost makes me want to vote NDP. I don't think that this has any place in politics, and I would be very interested in knowing which party leaked this and why.
The Sun court reporter got this story directly from the cop who was there. If this was sat on I think it would have to have been the reporter himself. I also think if the purpose was to cause it would have made more sense to reveal this earlier in the week.

This late in the game I can't see effecting him much. His supporters will just call it a smear.

If people had some time to think about it they would probably realize that he is too smart of a man not to know where he was at. Him being their is troubling because often these asian prostitutes are not their willingly.

People shouldn't vote for Jack because he would drastically hurt the Canadian economy.
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:55 PM   #2993
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Have you looked at their platform? Doesn't say cap and trade, but does make reference to working with / waiting for / synching up / (whatever the wording is) with the US.
Fair enough. How much will gasoline rise under that yet to be determined plan?

If they were in favour of a carbon tax then I could see taking aim at the NDP...but seriously there are many other areas they could attack the NDP where they are totally divergent.
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If you look at the Conservative party platform on the environmental areas, they don't even discuss Cap and Trade as an immediate party platform. They talk about aligning environmental targets and strategies with the Americans so that we don't become uncompetitive as well.

If you also look at the comparison of platform here

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1964156/

The Liberal'sand NDP both talk cap and trade in their platforms, the Conservatives don't. Ignatieff and Layton have both talked about doing the cap and trade unconditionally without looking at what the American's are doing.


I know that there has been discussion with Harper on cap and trade and he has stated that he was willing to discuss it, but it would be implemented selectively, and not implemented til the American do it.

On this decision site we do see that the Conservatives wouldn't implement a cap and trade without the U.S.

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No. A cap and trade system could only be considered if done jointly with Canada and the U.S. Canada's number one trading partner is the U.S. Both countries have strong economic ties. If Canada were to attempt a cap and trade system by itself, it would not be effective at reducing emissions and would disadvantage Canadian business and manufacturing because of the increased costs, causing lost jobs in Canada. Our Conservative government is committed to creating new jobs through training, trade and low taxes.
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I have never said this but I really like the pro-Conservative commercial with the video playing and the "inspirational" speech playing in the background from Harper.

I'm so tired of the attack ads. It does lack substance but it is rare to see a feel good election commercial.
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I have never said this but I really like the pro-Conservative commercial with the video playing and the "inspirational" speech playing in the background from Harper.

I'm so tired of the attack ads. It does lack substance but it is rare to see a feel good election commercial.
I was just thinking the same thing. Not a lot of substance, but at least it isn't another attack ad.

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One thing that I do have to laugh at is just how aloof Layton always attempts to act. You'll recall that in the last election, Layton continuously hammered the CPC about private healthcare. It was then pointed out to him that he himself used the services of a private clinic when he underwent his hernia operation. His response was that he had no idea that it was a private clinic. Kind of funny that he gives the same response in this story.
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I have never said this but I really like the pro-Conservative commercial with the video playing and the "inspirational" speech playing in the background from Harper.

I'm so tired of the attack ads. It does lack substance but it is rare to see a feel good election commercial.
I said that earlier, it was one of the best ads from this campaign from any of the parties.

I was watching an interview earlier today with a senior Liberal advisor who blamed Jack Layton's surge on the Conservative attack ads on Ignatieff being so mean that he had to defend himself instead of focusing on the campaign.

The failing of the Liberal's isn't due to the attack ads as much as a lousy performance by Ignatieff and a terrible party platform formulated by the left elements of the party.
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BREAKING NEWS.... Jack Layton found naked in a massage parlour in 1996, but was never charged -- Vice cop

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Well, yeah - who gets a massage while clothed?
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I have never said this but I really like the pro-Conservative commercial with the video playing and the "inspirational" speech playing in the background from Harper.

I'm so tired of the attack ads. It does lack substance but it is rare to see a feel good election commercial.
The problem with that ad is that it does nothing to convince me why I should vote for the Conservatives. Change nothing else except the speaker from Harper to Ignatieff or Layton, and it could just as easily be an ad for the Liberals or NDP. I'm all for positive ads promoting one's own party instead of attacking the other guys, but they should at least be about policy and platform. This piece is just content-free feel-good fluff.
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