Why do something to shut up Trump? Having Trump around only helps Obama.
Because it is distracting too many politicians from real work.
Unfortunately, nothing will satisfy these birther monkeys. Ignoring them for three years hasn't helped, so now he's trying this. Obama tries way too hard to appease Republicans anyway, so I'm not very surprised he did this.
Now comes word that U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, a reservist who lives in Florida, is challenging his deployment based on that argument. Reports the Ledger-Enquirer out of Columbus, Georgia: "Cook's lawyer, Orly Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama's presidency in other courts, filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for his client."
Cook is arguing that because Mr. Obama isn't really the president (and thus isn't the commander in chief), the soldier "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President's command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
Why do something to shut up Trump? Having Trump around only helps Obama.
This doesn't shut up Trump, it actually strengthens Trumps hand in the Repugs, which is tactically brilliant by who ever advised Obama, Trump is unelectable outside of the right wing wackos. If Trump makes a strong run it will split the republicans apart and damn near kill them.
This looks like what he has produced in the past, basically a document signed by current officials saying here is a copy of what we have on file. Its nothing new.
What he's produced in the past is the short form document, exactly what anyone can legally obtain in Hawaii and exactly what anyone with one would need to verify citizenship, get a passport, etc, because it's the only thing Hawaii gives out at this time.
What he produced today is different, as is apparent just by comparing them. What he produced today is the original long form document.
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The simple fact is he cannot produce what 99% of users of CP have somewhere in there posession, an actual birth certificate.
Except the CPers that live in Hawaii. Any CPer that lived in Hawaii would go down to the proper office, request their birth certificate, and would get exactly what Obama produced years ago, the only certified copy legally recognized. Heck CNN just did it on camera with a guy born with a guy born within days of Obama in Hawaii. They got the CLOB short form that Obama produced.
So of course he can't produce it, he can't get it. He had to write in and get a special concession to get the long form to be released! What's better, a president who follows the laws of the land? Or a president who gets special treatment not given to regular citizens?
This doesn't shut up Trump, it actually strengthens Trumps hand in the Repugs, which is tactically brilliant by who ever advised Obama, Trump is unelectable outside of the right wing wackos. If Trump makes a strong run it will split the republicans apart and damn near kill them.
Not true. There's no chance Trump will come out of primaries. Just no chance. Look at his history. It's surprisingly democrat. Supporting, at one time, single payer health, supporting abortion. He's unelectable to his own supporters. It's just theatre.
Unless what they consider a birth certificate in the US is different than what is in Canada. I have mine in the second drawer in my cabinet - its what the hospital gave my parents and what they gave me.
Birth certificates here don't come from the hospital, at least not in recent times. The hospital sends the birth information to the government where it is registered, and then the parents go to a registry and request a copy of the birth certificate, and get it in the mail a week or so later. It also isn't issued automatically - you have to actually request (and pay for) it.
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Not true. There's no chance Trump will come out of primaries. Just no chance. Look at his history. It's surprisingly democrat. Supporting, at one time, single payer health, supporting abortion. He's unelectable to his own supporters. It's just theatre.
I think thats the point, the better Trump does the better it is for Obama, Trump is a buffoon, his campaign further alienates moderate republicans that look at the Tea Party and the Palin bid as a painfull joke on them.
Not true. There's no chance Trump will come out of primaries. Just no chance. Look at his history. It's surprisingly democrat. Supporting, at one time, single payer health, supporting abortion. He's unelectable to his own supporters. It's just theatre.
He's paving the way for Palin, who supported his birther efforts.
Oh to have Palin in another national election.. one can't even dare to hope for that much fun twice in a lifetime.
Actually this does 2 things for Trump, it gives him a 'victory' to make him seem more credible as a politician but it also allows him to abandon the birther issue (claiming to have solved it) and start to appeal to the more moderate repugs now that he has the inbred trailor park crazies under his wing.
Actually this does 2 things for Trump, it gives him a 'victory' to make him seem more credible as a politician but it also allows him to abandon the birther issue (claiming to have solved it) and start to appeal to the more moderate repugs now that he has the inbred trailor park crazies under his wing.
One might think, but I guess not.
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And, Trump said, there are still questions about President Obama's background. "The word is," Trump told the press, Obama "was a terrible student when he went to Occidental [College]. He then gets to Columbia. He then gets to Harvard."
"I don't know why he doesn't release his records," Trump said. "Why doesn't he release his Occidental records?"
Trump has about as much chance as Palin of getting the nomination.
I'm surprised any of you are taking him seriously. The man is a buffoon and is not fit to lead a nation.
I know you think we're all stupid, but those of us that are don't make up enough of the population to give either Trump or Palin a legitimate shot.
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I think thats the point, the better Trump does the better it is for Obama, Trump is a buffoon, his campaign further alienates moderate republicans that look at the Tea Party and the Palin bid as a painfull joke on them.
agreed. I would really like to see a fiscal conservative in the Whitehouse; unfortunately, the GOP is filled with and surrounded by morons
Trump has about as much chance as Palin of getting the nomination.
I'm surprised any of you are taking him seriously. The man is a buffoon and is not fit to lead a nation.
I know you think we're all stupid, but those of us that are don't make up enough of the population to give either Trump or Palin a legitimate shot.
I don't think for a moment either Trump or Palin get the nomination, but their 'success' at this stage does alienate large parts of the moderate republican base. The better they do the more they divide the republicans ergo the better it is for the democrats.
Trump has about as much chance as Palin of getting the nomination.
I'm surprised any of you are taking him seriously. The man is a buffoon and is not fit to lead a nation.
I know you think we're all stupid, but those of us that are don't make up enough of the population to give either Trump or Palin a legitimate shot.
Not a flaw in a Republican primary.
But you're right, this is sort of like Jesse Jackson leading in the polls of Democratic polls back in '92. I don't think Trump is all that serious about running. It's all about publicity with Trump even if he has to race bait.
I think Romney Bob Doles this election and Obama wins somewhat easily. We will see. I don't see anyone threatening to Obama at this stage even with the economy still struggling.
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