At 5:30 in the morning someone is trying to break into an 89 years old womens home. She calls the police, but the burglar enters the home before they arrive.
She fires at the burglar, misses him, but it causes him to run away. How does she know she just didnt save her own life? Perhaps the man would of stabbed, choked, beat her to death, etc.
Its situations like this that show why its important for home owners if they wish to have a gun.
At 5:30 in the morning someone is trying to break into an 89 years old womens home. She calls the police, but the burglar enters the home before they arrive.
She fires at the burglar, misses him, but it causes him to run away. How does she know she just didnt save her own life? Perhaps the man would of stabbed, choked, beat her to death, etc.
Its situations like this that show why its important for home owners if they wish to have a gun.
I bet these people wished they didn't have a gun in their house.
How am I being ironic? One of the most annoying things in a debate is when one party, declares himself the winner mid-argument. The reality is, we are dealing with a ton of hypothetical situations that no one can know the answer to. You're saying that all parties would be better off with bear mace and the other says the best bet for self defense is with a gun. In my mind, I can see scenarios where both sides would be right because there is no absolute right answer. One thing that I am fairly certain of, however, is that if someone that had the intention of breaking into my home believed that I had a gun, he would be much less likely to try and break in. As it stands, my rifle would be of little use to me if someone broke into my house as it is disassembled, in a locked case with the ammunition stored separately. At the same time, if BTK broke into my home, I don't think I'd feel comfortable asking him to wait in my living room while I waited for the police to get here.
At 5:30 in the morning someone is trying to break into an 89 years old womens home. She calls the police, but the burglar enters the home before they arrive.
She fires at the burglar, misses him, but it causes him to run away. How does she know she just didnt save her own life? Perhaps the man would of stabbed, choked, beat her to death, etc.
Its situations like this that show why its important for home owners if they wish to have a gun.
3:30 am, nobody tried to break into my house. Nobody was shot, nobody was injured. That scenerio has been played over the course of my entire life.
Way hyperbolic, but it's a point.
That robber she shot at? Did he have a gun? Did he ever intend on killing/hurting her, or just take her possessions?
You can drop these youtube videos all day, but it doesn't prove your point. It proves that people are willing to fire a weapon. This lady missed her target. Many people miss their targets and end up hurting somebody else.
So he was not taking care of his gun properly and a bad outcome occured. Thankfully no one was killed.
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Police urged gun users to follow these safety rules:
• Treat every gun as if it were loaded.
• Never point a gun at anything you do not wish to destroy.
• Know your target and beyond.
• Keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you are ready to fire.
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At 5:30 in the morning someone is trying to break into an 89 years old womens home. She calls the police, but the burglar enters the home before they arrive.
She fires at the burglar, misses him, but it causes him to run away. How does she know she just didnt save her own life? Perhaps the man would of stabbed, choked, beat her to death, etc.
Its situations like this that show why its important for home owners if they wish to have a gun.
Do you not realize how ridiculous it is to throw out one or two instances where someone having a gun came in handy when the big debate here is about how the chance of that happening is slim compared to the danger that an improperly stored gun presents.....in a thread about how an improperly stored gun was the cause of multiple injuries in an ELEMENTARY school?
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3:30 am, nobody tried to break into my house. Nobody was shot, nobody was injured. That scenerio has been played over the course of my entire life.
Way hyperbolic, but it's a point.
That robber she shot at? Did he have a gun? Did he ever intend on killing/hurting her, or just take her possessions?
You can drop these youtube videos all day, but it doesn't prove your point. It proves that people are willing to fire a weapon. This lady missed her target. Many people miss their targets and end up hurting somebody else.
Does it matter if he had a gun? Or planned or killing/her hurting her? or just robbing her?
How is she supposed to know?
Shes in her house, doing nothing wrong and scared for her well being.
I'm always amazed at the lengths some people (not aimed at anyone in this thread) go to justify keeping an open firearm in the house. I've known guys who'll own a gun for protection but then do stupid things like drive drunk, drive without a seatbelt, or whatever other risky activities.
It's interesting to see how fluid their standards for self preservation are depending on the situation. They'll concoct fantastic scenarios where they'll need to use their guns for protecting themselves (none of which have ever been realized) but then do dozens of extremely risky things without even giving it a second thought.
Do you not realize how ridiculous it is to throw out one or two instances where someone having a gun came in handy when the big debate here is about how the chance of that happening is slim compared to the danger that an improperly stored gun presents.....in a thread about how an improperly stored gun was the cause of multiple injuries in an ELEMENTARY school?
There are way more then one or two instances of guns coming in handy.
I agree, improperly stored guns can be dangerous.
Im just really interested to hear what anti gun homeowners think when an elderly women needs to use one in self defence of an intruder? What if it was someone you knew?
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I'm always amazed at the lengths some people (not aimed at anyone in this thread) go to justify keeping an open firearm in the house. I've known guys who'll own a gun for protection but then do stupid things like drive drunk, drive without a seatbelt, or whatever other risky activities.
It's interesting to see how fluid their standards for self preservation are depending on the situation. They'll concoct fantastic scenarios where they'll need to use their guns for protecting themselves (none of which have ever been realized) but then do dozens of extremely risky things without even giving it a second thought.
I'd be willing to bet that in some areas there's actually a pretty strong correlation there.
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You completely missed my point. Posting an old lady who scared away an intruder proves nothing. Just how my link proved nothing.
It proves that having a gun in your house can possibly prevent an intruder from harming you.
Shes 87 years old. Theres not much more she could of done to defend herself. The cops were called, didnt arrive in time, and the intruder would of came right after her.
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There are way more then one or two instances of guns coming in handy.
I agree, improperly stored guns can be dangerous.
Im just really interested to hear what anti gun homeowners think when an elderly women needs to use one in self defence of an intruder? What if it was someone you knew?
Like any other annecdotal evidence it's completely irrelevant.
As is whether or not I knew her.
That's the problem with most folks on the pro gun for home protection side. They ignore statistics and facts and go with annecdotal evidence, and emotional arguments.
You also agree that an improperly stored gun can be dangerous. Well part of my position is that in almost all circumstances a gun that is readily available to be effectively used for home defence is almost certainly to be stored improperly.
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It proves that having a gun in your house can possibly prevent an intruder from harming you.
Shes 87 years old. Theres not much more she could of done to defend herself. The cops were called, didnt arrive in time, and the intruder would of came right after her.
Still missing the point. Looking at one youtube video or link and coming to a conclusion is silly.
Like any other annecdotal evidence it's completely irrelevant.
As is whether or not I knew her.
That's the problem with most folks on the pro gun for home protection side. They ignore statistics and facts and go with annecdotal evidence, and emotional arguments.
You also agree that an improperly stored gun can be dangerous. Well part of my position is that in almost all circumstances a gun that is readily available to be effectively used for home defence is almost certainly to be stored improperly.
Where are these stats? If you're going to bring them up, post them. Otherwise you look like you're making something up to help your side of the debate.
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