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Old 04-12-2011, 08:19 PM   #101
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GeekBench is universal. 3DMark is PC only.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:20 PM   #102
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GeekBench is universal. 3DMark is PC only.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:23 PM   #103
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Naw, I just use a virtual machine whenever I need to slum it.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:23 PM   #104
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Like I said in the other thread, it really doesn't matter as long as whoever you are comparing with had the same setting. I think the reasoning is that PPU offloads the physics portion (or some % of it) of processing to the GPU(s), so instead of simply testing the CPU in those tests you are using the GPU(s) as well(instead?).

I read an interesting article about this today that basically stated people had dedicated physx cards (actually you still can) before it was integrated into modern graphics cards. Therefore the whole PPU vs nonPPU test really shouldn't matter. Which for me it really doesn't, I'm not a hardcore benchmarker, I think I've run 3dMark three times ever.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:58 PM   #105
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PPU on



Geekbench



So what exactly is Geekbench testing? It spends more than half the time under 50% cpu usage. I have a hard time believing I'm that far off you two with the spec comparison.

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Old 04-12-2011, 09:55 PM   #106
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Geekbench score of 3981.

Stupid DDR2 800 Mhz RAM.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:22 PM   #107
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Geekbench score of 3981.

Stupid DDR2 800 Mhz RAM.
Make sure your strips of ram aren't actually strips of bacon.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:59 PM   #108
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How is this?

Geekbench Summary

System Information
Platform: Mac OS X x86 (32-bit)
Compiler: GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5494)
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6.6 (Build 10J567)
Model: iMac (Late 2009)
Motherboard: Apple Inc. Mac-F2268CC8
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz
Processor ID: GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10
Logical Processors: 2
Physical Processors: 1
Processor Frequency: 3.06 GHz
L1 Instruction Cache: 32.0 KB
L1 Data Cache: 32.0 KB
L2 Cache: 3.00 MB
L3 Cache: 0.00 B
Bus Frequency: 1.06 GHz
Memory: 4.00 GB
Memory Type: 0 MHz RAM
SIMD: 1
BIOS: Apple Inc. IM101.88Z.00CC.B00.0909031926
Processor Model: Intel Core 2 Duo E7600
Processor Cores: 2
Geekbench 2 Score: 4189
Integer Performance (Score: 3467)
Floating Point Performance (Score: 6200)
Memory Performance (Score: 2950)
Stream Performance (Score: 2161)
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Old 04-13-2011, 01:22 AM   #109
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Make sure your strips of ram aren't actually strips of bacon.
That would explain the constant grease fires though. I figured that wasn't normal.
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Old 04-13-2011, 01:26 PM   #110
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Out of curiosity, I ran it in a Win XP virtual machine (on my Mac) I use for School...



I have no clue what the deal is with the 20K memory performance rating, but... damn.
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Old 04-13-2011, 01:43 PM   #111
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I'm disappointed. I was hoping the thread was about a cool, geeky bench for my computer and various devices.
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Old 04-13-2011, 02:03 PM   #112
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Actually, it's funny you should mention that. I was thinking about starting a thread for people to post their workspaces... get some ideas for how to organize my physical workflow a little better.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:04 PM   #113
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Out of curiosity, I ran it in a Win XP virtual machine (on my Mac) I use for School...
I see your WinXP VM and raise you a OS/X VM running under Win7/64. Not bad for a bargain bin i5 PC.


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Old 04-13-2011, 07:53 PM   #114
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I've edited my posting above to include a screen snapshot with both the Win7 (lower right) and OS/X-VM (upper left) results for my machine.

Based on the inconsistencies between the Floating Point scores (being substantially higher on the Mac version of the program) I'd have to conclude that you can't directly compare the results between the Mac and Windows versions.
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I've edited my posting above to include a screen snapshot with both the Win7 (lower right) and OS/X-VM (upper left) results for my machine.

Based on the inconsistencies between the Floating Point scores (being substantially higher on the Mac version of the program) I'd have to conclude that you can't directly compare the results between the Mac and Windows versions.
They use the same scoring system across the board. If one posts higher than it's higher. That's the point of GeekBench, it's meant to compare universally across platforms.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:36 PM   #116
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Out of curiosity, I ran it in a Win XP virtual machine (on my Mac) I use for School...



I have no clue what the deal is with the 20K memory performance rating, but... damn.
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How does that make any sense?
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:15 PM   #117
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How does that make any sense?
Sandy Bridge vs Westmere.

20K memory performance is kind of odd, but there were some some pretty big changes to how the new Sandy Bridge processors access memory vs the old Westmere ones.

As an example, the new baselevel 13" i5 MacBook Pro benchmarks higher than last year's "17 i7 MacBook Pro.

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Old 04-13-2011, 09:20 PM   #118
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I see your WinXP VM and raise you a OS/X VM running under Win7/64. Not bad for a bargain bin i5 PC.
Now run a Windows 7 VM in the OSX VM!

Seriously, I really need to get OSX in a VM so I can use Xcode without having to drag my laptop into my office.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:23 PM   #119
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They use the same scoring system across the board. If one posts higher than it's higher. That's the point of GeekBench, it's meant to compare universally across platforms.
He's running it on the same PC though, it's scoring faster inside the VM on OSX than it's scoring in Windows 7 on the bare metal.

Unless it's some kind of 32-bit 64-bit thing, maybe the virtual machine even though it's running the 32-bit version of geekbench the VM software is running 64-bit and taking advantage of some kind of optimization that the 32-bit version of geekbench in Windows 7 isn't.
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He's running it on the same PC though, it's scoring faster inside the VM on OSX than it's scoring in Windows 7 on the bare metal.

Unless it's some kind of 32-bit 64-bit thing, maybe the virtual machine even though it's running the 32-bit version of geekbench the VM software is running 64-bit and taking advantage of some kind of optimization that the 32-bit version of geekbench in Windows 7 isn't.
Exactly. And the OS/X VM is 32 bit also, FYI.

You have to be really careful when constructing tests like this as you can run the same source code through two different compilers and end up with different machine code. It's possible that OS/X takes better advantage of certain processor features, but I'd take some convincing. I did try checking out the web site to see if there was more nuts-and-bolts information about the benchmarks, but the information is sparse, other than a blog page that appears to be exclusively Mac oriented. You really want a product like this to be open source.

Besides, this benchmark is so narrow in scope, I'm not sure how it translates to real-world end-user differences in speed.
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