"V" TV remake

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by awildermode

someone please kill off Tyler

...and show more of Anna and Lisa

I watched an interview with Laura Vandervoort a while back. She said that her character was going to be "using Tyler at first, but that would change and probably go the other way."

Interesting.

[CaptainCrunch]

I really liked this episode a lot for some reason, though I'm confused about the contents of the flu shot.

However the last scene with the space effects and the fleet was fantastic.

[rubecube]

Is this show going anywhere? It seriously seems like they build up something new every week, and then completely abandon getting to the point in following episode.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

I watched an interview with Laura Vandervoort a while back. She said that her character was going to be "using Tyler at first, but that would change and probably go the other way."

Interesting.

More like "predictable."

Although it's very unlikely a lizard would find a human physically attractive, no matter what skin she's wearing to cover up the grimace.

Let's just forget that all Earth's governments wouldn't for a second permit mysterious aliens - who inexplicably have our same physical appearance, something we seem to accept with barely a glance - to set up clinics and start giving out medical advice, operations and mysterious injections.

I have to assume the technologically vastly superior aliens, who could obviously wipe us out on a whim, have some sort of vulnerability that requires all of this plotting. Perhaps they are a dying species and require harvesting humanity's organs/blood or something for their own survival.

I should stop thinking about those things because it kind of ruins the premise . . . . . OR . . . . maybe the writers should think about those things more because the plot would have a lot more Battlestar menace and interest to it. There's a lot of potential in this series but I think they're missing it in some ways.

Cowperson

[DOK]

I agree, our world is much too skeptical to trust people from another world like they are. In the first episode I said that when the ships were coming to land they would have been bombed or shot at by the Americans at the least. The Americans send up fighter jets to check out when planes are flying weird. You can't tell me they'd wait and see how these ships are going to pan out before defending themselves.

And the visas are stupid. There's no way they'd let an alien who looks just like us into our nation when they can't even agree about Mexican immigrants.

The shots are silly as well. It's funny with what they are saying about exploiting peoples fears about a pandemic, and that's just what's happening in reality. However, I'm thinking more people are probably more skeptical about the government and the health care system with the flu shots than worrying about dying from it in actuality.

BUT, the end scene was cool, I'll give them that. When they panned out and we saw all the ships, that looked pretty cool, until I told my dh about it. He said, right, with the size of 29 ships, that many more would cover every square inch of the sky line. What's the wait?

MAYBE, just MAYBE, they are good guys? That'd be cool. All our skepticism and paranoia could be the predictability that they were talking about in the show. Maybe they are just weirdo aliens who want to do good and we'll end up pissing them off with our worries? That's a bit far fetched for tuesday night tv though I think, but it would be cool.

[ericschand]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I should stop thinking about those things because it kind of ruins the premise . . . . . OR . . . . maybe the writers should think about those things more because the plot would have a lot more Battlestar menace and interest to it. There's a lot of potential in this series but I think they're missing it in some ways.

Cowperson

Exactly what I thought after last nights hiatus episode.

By the end of the show I didn't really care anymore.

Spoilers (highlight to view):
I didn't care that the priest was stabbed. Oh well, I guess he'll be a soldier now, huh?
I didn't care that mommy found out about generic, over-used, cliched, rebelious
kid went to the V ship.
And for some reason, I really didn't care that a lot of V ships were on the way.
They didn't give us any reason to worry, or at least I didn't see any cause
for concern given the story thus far.
Plot hole? You want to poison the world, so you store it all in one location
on the planet you want to kill? And then you are shocked that a rebel group
you knew about, and suspected of killing your sleeper agent, blows it up?

Battlestar Galactica gave us reason and storylines to care about. Whether
mid-episode, between episodes, end-of-season, didn't matter. Waiting for
the next show was difficult. But in V, I just don't care it's March 2010.

They're really going to have to do well at that time in order to keep me watching.

ers

[awildermode]

Originally Posted by DOK

And the visas are stupid. There's no way they'd let an alien who looks just like us into our nation when they can't even agree about Mexican immigrants.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

More like "predictable."

Although it's very unlikely a lizard would find a human physically attractive, no matter what skin she's wearing to cover up the grimace.

Its a standard plot device in every alien invades earth book or movie though. However while its unlikely that a lizard person would see a human as anything but a happy meal on legs, maybe they originated in the universes version of Arkansas, and we all know that in Arkansas live stock is fair game. Maybe these V aliens are their cultures versions of hedonists, and the other aliens that are coming represent their planets version of the puritans?

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Let's just forget that all Earth's governments wouldn't for a second permit mysterious aliens - who inexplicably have our same physical appearance, something we seem to accept with barely a glance - to set up clinics and start giving out medical advice, operations and mysterious injections.

I'm not sure about that, Bad always wins because good is stupid. I'm pretty sure that originally the government of the United States would refuse entry to these aliens, but the Liberal media and the intellectual puppets who believe that advanced cultures could never ever be war like would start hammering the government who worried about the possibility of losing an election over their refusal to allow the benevolent appearing aliens to cure cancer. I'm also pretty sure that average Joe citizen wouldn't even think twice about them looking like us.

I remember reading Childhoods end when I was a kid and the aliens looked like our representation of Satan and there wasn't even a second thought to that.

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I have to assume the technologically vastly superior aliens, who could obviously wipe us out on a whim, have some sort of vulnerability that requires all of this plotting. Perhaps they are a dying species and require harvesting humanity's organs/blood or something for their own survival.

I think there's always fear that if you just come in with a heavy handed invasion and start blasting cities willy nilly that your enemy is going to come up with some desparation move that comes out of nowhere and inflicts mass casualties. Why take the chance, you want to fatten up your enemy and get them to walk up to the chopping block, draw a dotted line across their neck and then lay down.

Plus if this follows the old series, the aliens see the world as one big happy meal where they can fly up order a McJoe with a side order of Cindy fries and a great big glass of freshly squeezed Pete. Why brutally invade and kill off your food supply.

Maybe they have a fear that they haven't updated their firewall on their UFO's for a few centuries and somebody could upload a virus from a apple laptop dooming them all?

Originally Posted by Cowperson

I should stop thinking about those things because it kind of ruins the premise . . . . . OR . . . . maybe the writers should think about those things more because the plot would have a lot more Battlestar menace and interest to it. There's a lot of potential in this series but I think they're missing it in some ways.

Cowperson

All joking aside, I do agree with your premise, but it would be an awfully short series (which it might already B) if super advanced aliens showed up, Anna's face appeared on the bottom of the UFO stating "Are Human's white meat or Dark meat? Does anyone know if they go better with red or white wine, a screw it . . . open fire"

People like to be fooled into thinking that they're watching smart T.V., thats why T.V. shows have to be dishonest about reaching the desired goals.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DOK

I agree, our world is much too skeptical to trust people from another world like they are. In the first episode I said that when the ships were coming to land they would have been bombed or shot at by the Americans at the least. The Americans send up fighter jets to check out when planes are flying weird. You can't tell me they'd wait and see how these ships are going to pan out before defending themselves.

Not that I'm supporting or arguing this show, but we all seem to forget that at a base level, human beings are trusting and somewhat stupid. There's always going to be a powerful peace group of stupid humans who believe everything they hear especially when the Aliens say "Hey we're got the cure for 98% of your killer sicknesses, we have ways to solve world hunger, oh and our technology not only allows you to have a 3-d T.V. but 1000 super high def stations and we won't charge you a cent to watch it.

Originally Posted by DOK

And the visas are stupid. There's no way they'd let an alien who looks just like us into our nation when they can't even agree about Mexican immigrants.

But if they've already infiltrated into the government, maybe as high as the office of the president (come on we know Obama is a lizard man, I've seen the video). Plus I think that the concept of peace loving aliens who can bring us nirvana is a slightly different situation then a bunch of damn immigrants running the boarder so they can steal our jobs.

Originally Posted by DOK

The shots are silly as well. It's funny with what they are saying about exploiting peoples fears about a pandemic, and that's just what's happening in reality. However, I'm thinking more people are probably more skeptical about the government and the health care system with the flu shots than worrying about dying from it in actuality.

Yet how many people have run off to get the H1N1 vaccine over the premise of a flu that while is doesn't kill as many people as the normal flue has the name pandemic attached to it. We've seen 4 hour lineups of people here alone where they will wait in line to get a shot.

Originally Posted by DOK

BUT, the end scene was cool, I'll give them that. When they panned out and we saw all the ships, that looked pretty cool, until I told my dh about it. He said, right, with the size of 29 ships, that many more would cover every square inch of the sky line. What's the wait?

Anticipation builds the appetites. Fresh Meat takes so much better when its beaten into submission.

Originally Posted by DOK

MAYBE, just MAYBE, they are good guys? That'd be cool. All our skepticism and paranoia could be the predictability that they were talking about in the show. Maybe they are just weirdo aliens who want to do good and we'll end up pissing them off with our worries? That's a bit far fetched for tuesday night tv though I think, but it would be cool.

I remember an outer limits episode from a few years ago when Aliens showed up and told humanity that they were dissapointed in us, that they had created us and because of how humanity turned out they were going to wipe the slate and start over, but they gave humanity 48 hours to save themselves and fix the mess.

So peace breaks out, treaties are signed all war is basically stopped. They look proudly at the Aliens who then simply state that they had created man kind as a warrior class so they wouldn't have to fight and they were dissapointed that there wasn't more fighting and war and merciless killing. then they wiped out the planet.

You just never know.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by ericschand

Plot hole? You want to poison the world, so you store it all in one location
on the planet you want to kill? And then you are shocked that a rebel group
you knew about, and suspected of killing your sleeper agent, blows it up?

Those were the only flu shots they could get their hands on. Did you miss the scene where Darryl Sutter and Ken King were hoarding the rest of the world's flu shots, while pushing pregnant women down flights of stairs, and laughing maniacally?

[worth]

This show will be canceled. I watched the 4th episode last night, and by tomorrow, I will have forgotten it completley. By the time it's on again in the spring or whenever, I probably won't care at all.

If you haven't seen the original miniseries, it's much better than this.

V 1983 > V 2009

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by worth

This show will be canceled. I watched the 4th episode last night, and by tomorrow, I will have forgotten it completley. By the time it's on again in the spring or whenever, I probably won't care at all.

If you haven't seen the original miniseries, it's much better than this.

V 1983 > V 2009

I disagree, I found the show very compelling - made me want to watch the next episode more than most shows out there today.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Well, I gave this show more than enough time for me to grow into it and I must say, "What a waste of time! What a piece of crap! I want to see Elizabeth Mitchell without the bra in her "doing it"scene! Bring back Firefly as it's 100x's better than this green screened crap!" Nothing but a disappointment. Poor writing, poor antagonist set up, predictable and piss poor effects for a show with the budget that suggests differently. Great 80's subject matter however. If this show is canceled tomorrow I won't notice.

[RedMileDJ]

I thought the season finale was good! Kept me hooked. I hope there's a 3rd season.

- Tyler is dead...so it seems.
- Dianna is dead.
- Ryan is dead...or is he?
- Humans can now be affected by "Bliss"
- Lisa is locked up
- They brought back Marc Singer as head of "Project Aries." Awesome! Good to see more original V cast members being brought back.
- Chad is dead, as soon as Anna gets a hold of him.

What's not to like?

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

I thought the season finale was good! Kept me hooked. I hope there's a 3rd season.

- Tyler is dead...so it seems.
- Dianna is dead.
- Ryan is dead...or is he?
- Humans can now be affected by "Bliss"
- Lisa is locked up
- They brought back Marc Singer as head of "Project Aries." Awesome! Good to see more original V cast members being brought back.
- Chad is dead, as soon as Anna gets a hold of him.

What's not to like?

It's a soap opera masked to be prime-time capable, mature, and suspenseful, stand it up to a TV show with substance and you have something forgettable.

Do you actually like the characters? The writers try to write them flawed but they fail miserably. Their flaw is that they are stupid or one dimensional.

It's written so anything can happen yet it is as predictable as the weather in the Mojave Desert.

Watch a few Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip episodes (Unfortunately Canceled) then switch back to this drivel. You'll soon understand what is crap and what is not crap.

[CaptainCrunch]

I liked the season ending because if its indeed the season ending its one of the grimmest one since the last episode of ALF.

Basically humanity was doomed, Tyler had been murdered Diana was dead and Anna had no opposition left except for Project Aries.

I would expect they'll get a limited renewal next year, but if not, thats as fine a way to end a series as I've seen since Angel ended.

[DuffMan]

I haven't seen the finale yet, but I pvr this series and watch it at some point during the week, and then I always ask myself, "why am I still watching this". I did the same thing with Dollhouse.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

I haven't seen the finale yet, but I pvr this series and watch it at some point during the week, and then I always ask myself, "why am I still watching this". I did the same thing with Dollhouse.

I know why I kept watching

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

I haven't seen the finale yet, but I pvr this series and watch it at some point during the week, and then I always ask myself, "why am I still watching this". I did the same thing with Dollhouse.

I want to know the original version Joss pitched to the network. Aparently the network made a lot of changes before they would pick it up, and after it was canceled Joss made a statement vowing never to work with television networks again.

[DuffMan]

Well yeah, exactly.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I know why I kept watching