The Tennis Thread - Page 11 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Mango · 02-23-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

LOL Verdasco loses first round again!
In Acapulco! On CLAY!

Irony at its finest!

GirlySports · 02-25-2011, 05:31 PM

As expected, it's Federer vs Djokovic in the Final at Dubai.

8am MT Saturday morning. Should be a good one!

GirlySports · 02-26-2011, 10:04 AM

wow. Djokovic won easily: 6-3, 6-3

Mango · 02-26-2011, 01:17 PM

Is it too out there to say Djokovic will be the number one player at the end of the year?

GirlySports · 02-26-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mango

Is it too out there to say Djokovic will be the number one player at the end of the year?

Would be really tough. He's still 4500 points behind Nadal. In the next 9 Masters 1000 tournaments and 3 grand slams he has to make that up. It's definitely something to keep track of during the season.

JustAnotherGuy · 02-26-2011, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mango

Is it too out there to say Djokovic will be the number one player at the end of the year?

In a weird twist of the rankings. Djokovic just beat Federer in the Dubai final but he loses ground to Federer in the world rankings.

Last year Djokovic won the tournament for 500 points. He won again this year for 500 points. So his points don't change.

Last year Federer didn't play in Dubai so had zero points. But now he gets 300 points for being a finalist.

At least that is how I see. I think I have it right. Right?

Mango · 02-26-2011, 06:14 PM

You guys are right. I totally forgot about the different point values if you do/don't play a specific tournament.

I think Novak is the best player on the tour at this moment given Nadal's injuries and Federer's step back. However, it doesn't show in the standings because of the points system. It's early in the season though, with three majors to go.

GirlySports · 02-26-2011, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

In a weird twist of the rankings. Djokovic just beat Federer in the Dubai final but he loses ground to Federer in the world rankings.

Last year Djokovic won the tournament for 500 points. He won again this year for 500 points. So his points don't change.

Last year Federer didn't play in Dubai so had zero points. But now he gets 300 points for being a finalist.

At least that is how I see. I think I have it right. Right?

You're very close.

A player uses his best 18 tournaments in the rankings. For every tournament played, a player can hold those points for a calendar year.

A player above the Top 30 at the end of the year, the following year he MUST use the 4 grand slams, 8 of the 9 masters 1000 tournaments and 4 of his best 500 tournaments and two other tournaments in his top 18. If he fails to play in these tournaments , he gets a big fat 0.

So in our example this week. Djokovic wins the 2011 Dubai Open and earns 500 points. His result at the 2010 Dubai drops off, and since he won it, 500 points drops off.

Meanwhile Federer gains 300 points for the 2011 Dubai Open. Since he did not play Dubai last year, he gets to drop the worst tournament of his top 18 In this case it is probably Hamburg 500 from July 2010 where he got 0 points in. So he gains 300 points on Djokovic while losing to him. If Federer had won today, he would have gain 700 points on Djokovic.

Federer's breakdown: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/P...erer.aspx?t=rb

It's a rolling calendar. A player can take a new result to replace an old result within the year. But once a tournament passes one year, it has to drop off.

JustAnotherGuy · 02-26-2011, 10:53 PM

Wow, it is much more complicated than I thought. I will have to re-read your post and poke around so I understand how this ranking stuff works. Thanks.

GirlySports · 02-26-2011, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Wow, it is much more complicated than I thought. I will have to re-read your post and poke around so I understand how this ranking stuff works. Thanks.

I'm not sure I explained it very well.

Simplest way is. If you gain points this week, you get to keep those points and drop the worst tournament off your list. Unless it is the exact same tournament (or another tournament the same week) then the previous year drops off.

Federer didn't play this week last year so he had nothing to defend. He gets 300 points and gets to drop any one of his '0 pointers'. Djokovic had to defend 500 points, which he did.

Mango · 02-26-2011, 11:53 PM

You did a good job explaining it. When I was trying to understand it more last year around this time, I found this article: http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/20...tem-explained/

I totally forgot I bookmarked it and forgot the system too

GirlySports · 02-27-2011, 02:47 PM

Del Potro is back. On the verge of picking up 250 points for winning Delray Beach and jumping from #166 into the top #100. We were taking about the rankings, he has no ranking points to defend as he missed an entire year. He went all the way down to #485 holding only 20 points from the 2011 Sydney Open and 45 points from the 2011 Australian Open.

GirlySports · 02-28-2011, 12:01 PM

For this week's Davis Cup 1st round tie between Austria and France, Austria could not find a suitable venue to play at since every venue was booked.

So they're playing at an airport hangar!

http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/audi...es-melzer.aspx

GirlySports · 02-28-2011, 07:53 PM

Canadian news:

Aleksandra Wozniak has qualified for the WTA Monterrey Open this week. The tournament is on hardcourt.

The website is a bit slow updating but she won 3 qualifying matches all in straight sets, including knocking out the #1 seed.

Qualifying Draw: http://www.abiertodetenismonterrey.c...nday-28-qs.pdf

Singles Draw: http://www.abiertodetenismonterrey.c.../draws/mds.pdf

Tuesday Order of Play: http://www.abiertodetenismonterrey.c...1-march-op.pdf

She has a very fortunate first round draw against a Mexican wildcard Ximena Hermoso ranked 657 in the world! That match will be up 2nd on the main court so around noon MT on Tuesday. She desperately needs to take advantage of this draw.

GirlySports · 02-28-2011, 08:01 PM

More complex ranking stuff... Federer's 300 points gained in Dubai don't count until July!

He didn't play enough 500 events last year, so he is required to carry a 0-point 500 event for each he missed. He has three of these, as he played only one 500 last year. The first penalty will expire after Hamburg in July, the second after Washington, and the third after Tokyo.

spiteface · 02-28-2011, 11:09 PM

pretty good tussle between agassi and sampras today

GirlySports · 03-01-2011, 01:15 PM

Wozniak wins 6-2, 6-0! That's the beatdown that was expected.
Onto the 2nd round!

Mango · 03-02-2011, 10:18 AM

Looks like Nestor is out with a foot injury for the Davis Cup and he'll be replaced by Vasek Pospisil is in.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1926673/

GirlySports · 03-02-2011, 10:37 AM

That's not good. Means Raonic will have to play doubles as well.
Canada needs to win both matches on Friday to take the pressure off the doubles team.

Mango · 03-02-2011, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's not good. Means Raonic will have to play doubles as well.
Canada needs to win both matches on Friday to take the pressure off the doubles team.

Time for both Dancevic and Polansky to step up their respective games.