02-21-2011, 09:26 PM
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#301
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CP House of Ill Repute
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Originally Posted by Brendone
Discrediting a band because the play a simple style is also a teribble argument of a bands worth. Millions choose to buy Band A's record because there's something appealing about the sound they've created. Maybe it's generic and they're not as talented as band B, but they've come up with a formula that works.
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By that logic, McDonald's makes some of the finest food the world has ever eaten. Billions of customers can't be wrong!
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02-21-2011, 09:27 PM
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#302
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CP House of Ill Repute
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Originally Posted by arloiginla
I am a professional musician and I do teach music actually. Swing and a miss.
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Grinding the organ and teaching your monkey to do the same does not make you either of those things.
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02-21-2011, 09:30 PM
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#303
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Winnipeg
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I knew of Metric, but couldn't tell you anything more than that. The songs they played I recognized from somewhere - TV shows or commercials. They aren't a band that I typically listen to.
However, I thought they did a decent job. From where I was sitting, they sounded pretty good, and they surely didn't disappoint me. I wasn't expecting live performances between periods, so I was quite happy to stay in my seat and just take it all in.
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02-21-2011, 09:34 PM
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#304
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
Grinding the organ and teaching your monkey to do the same does not make you either of those things.
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Don't be dissing the organ now. It's awesome
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02-21-2011, 09:40 PM
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#305
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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This thread is hilarious.
If you don't like Metric and Tokyo Police club you clearly must only listen to nickleback.
For the record I can't stand any of those bands. Metric and Tokyo Police club just don't have enough grit or something, it's just too wimpy I don't have a better way to describe it. Maybe it's the second I hear crappy 80's style keyboard that makes me hate it. To be fair I dislike Tokyo Police club way more than metric.
At least metric is catchy, and I can definitely appreciate that and see the appeal there, and if I were in a bar and gimme sympathy comes on, well you won't find me running out of the bar. Tokyo police club however, mystifies me, I see no appeal in their music.
Go watch the real mckenzies on St.Paddy's day at the Republik they are a great Canadian band. Also the Mahones play the following Saturday (their newer more irish tinged stuff is great!).
Or go check out the flatliners in April, a great young canadian band. Oh wait I forgot I can only wait for Nickleback or some terrible indie band to play. Those are clearly the only types of music I can like.
To be fair I think it's great that metric appears to do everything on their own, avoiding major label etc...
Last edited by AFireInside; 02-21-2011 at 09:59 PM.
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02-21-2011, 09:41 PM
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#306
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp
By that logic, McDonald's makes some of the finest food the world has ever eaten. Billions of customers can't be wrong!
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Never said they were the finest "Food" the world has ever eaten, but they're clearly presenting something that's worth going back for. McDonalds (Nickelback) is clearly doing something right, based on their volume, so you can't discount them because the guys working behind the counter aren't trained chef's (best musicians).
This whole discussion is basically saying "McDonalds" is horrible and anyone who eats there is a moron. Really? There are Billions of morons that somehow just arent getting it? Wake up. They've come up with a product that is valid for a market.
Is the "All fresh market ingredient" resteraunt better? 9 times out of 10, I'd say yes, but it depends what your looking for at the time. Some days, a Big Mac could be what you really want. That's up to the indivual to say, not me.
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02-21-2011, 09:41 PM
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#307
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Dar es Salaam
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Well I hadn't heard of Metric before, and although I wasn't blown away by them during the intermission by any means, I can certainly see why people like them.
I have absolutely no issues at all with them being part of the Heritage Classic.
The biggest problem I had with the whole thing was the 13 people they brought down to surround the stage in what seemed like an attempt at creating a "concert atmosphere". I'm not sure if that was an extra ticket purchased by the die hard Metric fan, or if they won some kind of draw for a stage-side experience, or if it was open for anyone to go down there - all I know is that whenever the TV camera panned the vast throng of 13 fans the only thing I could do was - well, let's just say it wasn't working for me.
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02-21-2011, 09:43 PM
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#308
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by arloiginla
Wow, the indie music crowd in here resembles canucks fans with their "we're the best cause we're so different, Nickelback sucks, everyone knows that" lines.
You people might as well be plugging your ears and repeating the same thing over again. Sort of like most people at the stadium were plugging their ears in the 2nd intermission at the game. Everyone around me was commenting along the lines of "wtf?" and no one was getting excited and into it from what I could see. Doesn't make that a right or wrong opinion - but it's a fact that not too many people were excited about it.
Look - you hate Nickelback because they are so popular, and they don't "evolve" as a band. Doesn't change the fact that they are the most popular. It's like hating on the Habs because of all their Cups - doesn't change the fact that they've still won 24 of them. And no, I'm not a Habs fan by any stretch.
I have a music degree and a performer's diploma as well. I'd never heard of Metric before yesterday - mostly because I don't listen to indie music. And yesterday reminded me of why I never do. Emily Haines had a terrible singing performance, just awful. The music was depressing instead of upbeat - NHL would have been far better off hiring Nickelback or other recycled stuff we've all heard before - at least they would have pumped the crowd up.
Seems the organizers tried too hard to be different.
Seems some people in this thread are trying too hard to be different as well.
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I didn't realize we should be bringing up our resume's on this thread as well. But more than the 'fire Sutter,' 'trade Iggy,' 'blow the team up' threads that have happened on CP - this one has frustrates me the most. I also have extensive background in the music biz. As a writer, performer, manager and agent with a 4.00 gpa and scholarship in music business from the Berklee College of Music in Boston. Like you said, it doesn't mean I have all the answers. It doesn't mean my opinions are right. There are no rights or wrong here, like you mentioned.
True, this is a sports thread so obviously it's a demographic that clearly doesn't seem to fit in with the 'indie crowd.' Bottom line - I appreciate the effort the NHL programmers did in trying to bring something less predictable than Nickelback and make an effort to bring that sort of awareness to the Calgary market.
But I would like to clear up a couple things, personally, to what you mentioned. I don't dislike Nickelback because they are popular. I'm a big fan of the Stones and the Beatles so that argument makes no sense to me. Jealousy is not a factor here. Again, at least not for me. I just simply don't like Nickelback, but I've given them a shot - many, many times.
Secondly, when you are pursuing a career in music, you may have learned that even the most god-awful performers have as likely a chance of success as the most well educated musicians on this planet - so long as they have the luck, drive, tenacity to succeed and ability to learn from everyone - everyone. The sentence 'I'd never heard of Metric before yesterday - mostly because I don't listen to indie music. And yesterday reminded me of why I never do.' to me is what's wrong in the art scene in Calgary. You can recognize a poor performance - fine. Most people there recognized it. But why that should make you turn to Nickelback as a musical solace is scary. Open your mind. Listen to everything, enjoy coming up with your own judgements. Find even a single phrase that you can enjoy, critique the things you don't like. But don't judge every other band you consider 'indie' simply because of Metric's performance.
One last time - it was cold. It was an off show for Emily. But one last time - NHL - thank-you for having the marbles to try something different. I find it refreshing to know that the hockey world has the potential to embrace music as a whole as opposed to a formula.
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02-21-2011, 09:47 PM
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#309
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Brendone
There are Billions of morons that somehow just arent getting it? Wake up.
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I don't understand why that's surprising to you.
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02-21-2011, 09:53 PM
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#310
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Whether your favourite band is Metric, Imperial, Tokyo Police Club or Yokohama Fire Organization, I'll defer to the Onion as I do when any of these threads get out of hand:
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02-21-2011, 09:56 PM
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First Line Centre
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[QUOTE=mattyk19;2973242]I didn't realize we should be bringing up our resume's on this thread as well. But more than the 'fire Sutter,' 'trade Iggy,' 'blow the team up' threads that have happened on CP - this one has frustrates me the most. I also have extensive background in the music biz. As a writer, performer, manager and agent with a 4.00 gpa and scholarship in music business from the Berklee College of Music in Boston. Like you said, it doesn't mean I have all the answers. It doesn't mean my opinions are right. There are no rights or wrong here, like you mentioned.
True, this is a sports thread so obviously it's a demographic that clearly doesn't seem to fit in with the 'indie crowd.' Bottom line - I appreciate the effort the NHL programmers did in trying to bring something less predictable than Nickelback and make an effort to bring that sort of awareness to the Calgary market.
But I would like to clear up a couple things, personally, to what you mentioned. I don't dislike Nickelback because they are popular. I'm a big fan of the Stones and the Beatles
But who'd you rather be? The Beatles or the Rolling Stones, Oh seriously....j/k couldn't resist Gimme Sympathy
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02-21-2011, 10:00 PM
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#312
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Yasa
I don't understand why that's surprising to you.
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The brainwashed zombies are just waiting for a saviour to stand outside the drive thru with a sign "The food here isn't as good as a fine restaurant" and the illusion will be broken and billions will be free.
Should give that a try at the heroin beer line.
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02-21-2011, 10:03 PM
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#313
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I don't know which sections the people who weren't into it were sitting in. On TV it looked like a good chunk of fans were dancing along with the music.
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I am sure it had something to do with serving alcohol at the event.
Metric makes me want to buy skinny jeans, a tight pink tshirt, and get my lip pierced. If you like them thats fine, to each their own. My thought is why can't the NHL find a venue appropriate band? It's a full contact sport, play something rock. Harmonic Soft Rock just doesn't get me amped for sports. Even at the ASG Hedley performed. Ok good choice, except they played "perfect". Like for real? Play Cha-Ching or Hands Up at least. Something that gets people ramped up.
Don't get my wrong the NFL drops the ball here as well, the Super Bowl half time choices are horrible about 75% of the time as well.
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02-21-2011, 10:11 PM
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#314
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by The_Future
Play Cha-Ching or Hands Up at least.
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For a kick, you should search the off topic forum for the closing ceremonies thread. It's full of posters ripping "Generic bands" like Hedley (who played "Cha-Ching"). Cries of "Why couldn't they get The Hip instead". Crowd sure seemed to be having fun, but that was irrelevant because Hedley sucks.
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02-21-2011, 10:21 PM
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#315
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Lifetime Suspension
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This is the most on topic, 300+ reply thread on CP I've ever seen. To 1,000 replies. Then the moon!
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02-21-2011, 10:34 PM
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#316
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by mattyk19
The sentence 'I'd never heard of Metric before yesterday - mostly because I don't listen to indie music. And yesterday reminded me of why I never do.' to me is what's wrong in the art scene in Calgary. You can recognize a poor performance - fine. Most people there recognized it. But why that should make you turn to Nickelback as a musical solace is scary. Open your mind. Listen to everything, enjoy coming up with your own judgements. Find even a single phrase that you can enjoy, critique the things you don't like. But don't judge every other band you consider 'indie' simply because of Metric's performance.
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I don't like most indie music. That's why I don't listen to it. Not the other way around. Has nothing to do with not having an open mind, has to do with personal likes and dislikes. If I hate sushi for example, should I eat some of it every now and then just to "open my mind?" Maybe not judge the sushi at Market mall just because I hated the sushi at Chinook?
Sushi is sushi - it's not for everyone. Neither is indie music. Neither is Nickelback...or any other music. I'm not "taking solace" in Nickelback. I like it....just like many other people do - they didn't become the most popular Canadian band by dumb luck. But this thread isn't about them.
Back to Metric. I hadn't previously heard of them because I don't make an effort to stay on top of the indie music world - that's not out of ignorance, that's because I don't like indie music. I didn't even know who was performing until they announced it at McMahon....at which point I was willing to sit down and listen instead of going to the washroom.
The washroom would have been the better choice. IMO anyway.
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02-21-2011, 10:41 PM
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#317
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Lifetime Suspension
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I can't believe this thread is still sitting not only on the front page, but at the top of the FOI forum.
Things I have learned from this awesome thread:
- Metric ONLY plays live, and never ever in the history of ever would using a recorded track live.
- Metric is the greatest band in the history of all music.. perhaps the next Beatles.
- Tokyo police club is a close second.
- Not knowing who Metric is, makes you a complete music noob. So just go back to listening to Raffi LP's on your Fisher Price record player.
- And my personal favorite, anyone who does not like either Tokyo Police Club or Metric, is automatically a hardcore Nikelbak fan, without exception.
Awesome!
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02-21-2011, 10:48 PM
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#318
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moscow, ID
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Originally Posted by pylon
I can't believe this thread is still sitting not only on the front page, but at the top of the FOI forum.
Things I have learned from this awesome thread:
- Metric ONLY plays live, and never ever in the history of ever would using a recorded track live.
- Metric is the greatest band in the history of all music.. perhaps the next Beatles.
- Tokyo police club is a close second.
- Not knowing who Metric is, makes you a complete music noob. So just go back to listening to Raffi LP's on your Fisher Price record player.
- And my personal favorite, anyone who does not like either Tokyo Police Club or Metric, is automatically a hardcore Nikelbak fan, without exception.
Awesome!
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-arloiginla's music credentials. Which are SUBSTANTIAL
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02-21-2011, 10:50 PM
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#319
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First Line Centre
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I was always under the impression that "indie" was short for "independent" which refers to bands (of all genres) not signed to a major label.
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02-21-2011, 10:52 PM
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#320
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I haven't bothered to read most of this thread. The first few pages gave me an aneurism.
However I was in denial about being a hipster, but I'm starting to realize I am Thanks to this thread, I know who I am now! Yay!
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