2011 NFL Playoffs Thread - Page 56 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

rubecube · 01-24-2011, 02:14 PM

Here's what Drew Brees had to say about Cutler:

"No it isn't. I've had one of those before, and sometimes it sidelines you for four weeks. No one knows the extent of his injury, and there are varying degrees of severity, but it's definitely something that could take you out of a game."

Sainters7 · 01-24-2011, 02:26 PM

Interesting when you look at how different each conference has been in terms of their representative in the Super Bowl in about the past decade:

-In the past 8 seasons, the AFC champion has either been the Colts(2), Patriots(3), or Steelers(3).

-In the NFC over the past 10 seasons, there has been 10 different NFC Champions. No-one has gone more than once.

Just interesting to see how one conference has been so wide open the past decade whereas the other has been dominated by a select few teams.

rubecube · 01-24-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sainters7

Interesting when you look at how different each conference has been in terms of their representative in the Super Bowl in about the past decade:

-In the past 8 seasons, the AFC champion has either been the Colts(2), Patriots(3), or Steelers(3).

-In the NFC over the past 10 seasons, there has been 10 different NFC Champions. No-one has gone more than once.

Just interesting to see how one conference has been so wide open the past decade whereas the other has been dominated by a select few teams.

Yeah, Peter King was saying that the only team that hasn't won an NFC playoff game in the last decade is Detroit.

DropIt · 01-24-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm surprised DropIt is such a huge Lovie Smith fan. I think he's one of the worst coaches in the league.

In what respect?

He is a defensive coach and has always had one of the better defensive squads since he started in Chicago. Unless of course they were plagued by injuries which has happened a few times before this season.

His players all love the way he coaches and from what I have heard they are all hoping he gets an extension this offseason. He is a very, very big believer in promoting from within the organization and is the kind of coach who will praise you when you are playing well and let you know when your not.

I think he has done a great job in bringing in Marinelli to run the defensive line, which has taken a big step forward, albeit with Peppers, but none the less they are all playing much better than in previous years. He also was the first one to bring up Mike Martz's name when they were looking for offensive co--ordinators.

I feel his coaching so far can be looked at it alot like Brent Sutter's, where people are calling for his head, but when you look at the team's he has had to work with in the past he has never really had the talent offensively to put points on the board. Hell, before the Cutler trade he had awful quaterbacks in Grossman and to a lesser extent, Orton. Also I have seen the sorriest group of Wide Reciever's come through this city than any other organization.

I think this season is a good indicator that he can put together a great defense, just make sure there is some talent on the offensive side of the ball.

transplant99 · 01-25-2011, 05:30 AM

And the scalper market is off to a ridiculous start for Super Bowl 45.

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At StubHub, a major ticket reseller, fans have been paying an average of $3,678 per ticket, with a range of $1,767 to $15,002 for a single ticket.

StubHub also reports that Wisconsin buyers are outnumbering Pennsylvania buyers by a two-to-one ratio.

Yikes.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/114525404.html

transplant99 · 01-25-2011, 07:52 AM

Are you kidding me?

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A car salesman in suburban Chicago has been fired for refusing to remove a Green Bay Packers tie that he wore to work the day after the Packers beat the Chicago Bears to advance to the Super Bowl.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012501926.html

burn_baby_burn · 01-25-2011, 08:37 AM

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Are you kidding me?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012501926.html

In reality it probably isn't the smartest move by a salesman. I work in sales in Red Deer and I don't wear any Flames related apparel to work ever. Lots of Oilers fans around here. Sure my good customers know I'm a Flames fan. Still, I don't announce it to new clients until I get to know them. I'm sure most could care less, however I'm the type of guy who probably would not buy from the guy wearing an Oilers or Canucks tie. Especially after a playoff lose. So I assume that eveyone is just as insane as myself.

Bobblehead · 01-25-2011, 09:03 AM

More on Cutlergate:

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The couple was joined by 11 other people in Mastro's private upstairs dining room, and our spies tell us that he took the stairs rather than the elevator.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,606725.story

I wonder how long this will go on?

burn_baby_burn · 01-25-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

More on Cutlergate:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,606725.story

I wonder how long this will go on?

Like others have mentioned, he brought this on himself. I'm sure the guy really was hurt, however most won't give him the benifit of the doubt because of his prior actions and attitude.

On the flipside, I have been pretty hard on Matt Cassel on this forum. However, I would never, ever, question his toughness or desire. With Cutler, he just comes across as a baby. Hard to shake that label.

valo403 · 01-25-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HOOT

I'm not debating he didn't help him at all but what is Haine going to say? He can't really say anything but that without hurting himself.

Maybe you saw a different game but from a viewers point of view it didn't look good and everyone who was watching the game with me agreed. But taking the word of a teammate isn't enough for me from what I saw. Again I could be wrong, hopefully I was, but the optics were bad.

Who gives a #### about optics? It doesn't matter. Jesus, stuff like this is pathetic. 'Oh, it looked like he was just standing there and didn't care, so I'm going to conclude that to be the case based on a few seconds long sideline shots.' Read that and tell me it doesn't sound full scale idiotic.

I've torn an ACL in a game (well, spring camp intra-squad game) and stood on the sidelines for a good half hour afterwards. I could stand just fine, didn't hurt a bit. I could even walk. But try to do anything laterally and I was done. Anybody seeing a 5 second clip of me would have thought I was fine, the reality was my career was pretty much over.

FlamingLonghorn · 01-25-2011, 01:24 PM

I will say this I tore my ACL, sprained my MCL and PCL and I could still walk up stairs the next day. I got a leg brace a couple days later and my doctor said to avoid stairs, but my injury was a lot more serious than his.

Pagal4321 · 01-25-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Who gives a #### about optics? It doesn't matter. Jesus, stuff like this is pathetic. 'Oh, it looked like he was just standing there and didn't care, so I'm going to conclude that to be the case based on a few seconds long sideline shots.' Read that and tell me it doesn't sound full scale idiotic.

To answer your question as to who gives a *** about optics. Well....everyone, notice how this is still a story?!

valo403 · 01-25-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pagal4321

To answer your question as to who gives a *** about optics. Well....everyone, notice how this is still a story?!

It's a story becasue blowhards in the media are pretending that the only thing that should keep a player out of a game is an amputation, and even then only if it's above the knee.

Pagal4321 · 01-25-2011, 02:47 PM

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It's a story becasue blowhards in the media are pretending that the only thing that should keep a player out of a game is an amputation, and even then only if it's above the knee.

Umm I'm pretty sure the fans care about optics, as well as other NFL player, former NFL players, etc.

But yes, the media is making this a bigger story than it really is.

valo403 · 01-25-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Umm I'm pretty sure the fans care about optics, as well as other NFL player, former NFL players, etc.

But yes, the media is making this a bigger story than it really is.

Optics based on seconds worth of video is 100% useless. 100%.

For people to say 'oh he should have done something to help the backup and it sure didn't look like he did in the 11 seconds of video I saw so the conclusion is he didn't' is about as stupid as it gets. The questioning the degree of his injury falls pretty damned close to as stupid when it's based off of those same brief glimpses. The fact that he was standing means nothing, the fact that he was walking means nothing, and the fact (if true) that he walked up some stairs means nothing. As has been pointed out by a couple people in this thread, you can very easily do pretty serious damage to a knee and do all of those things. Bottomline, if you base your conclusions on little glimpses of a guy on the sidelines you're an idiot.

Bobblehead · 01-25-2011, 03:12 PM

The initial quotes were from PLAYERS.

You can trade personal anecdotes with them and figure out who's opinion matters more.

valo403 · 01-25-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

The initial quotes were from PLAYERS.

You can trade personal anecdotes with them and figure out who's opinion matters more.

And they were idiotic. MJD knew the medical diagnosis and what Cutler was capable of following the injury? How exactly? Did he get his M.D. while sitting out 2 of his teams biggest games of the year? Anyone, be it a 15 year veteran or 40 year practicing physician, who comes to a conclusion on this based on the snippets they saw on TV is a moron. They have no basis for the conclusion whatsoever.

dirk diggler · 01-25-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

And they were idiotic. MJD knew the medical diagnosis and what Cutler was capable of following the injury? How exactly? Did he get his M.D. while sitting out 2 of his teams biggest games of the year? Anyone, be it a 15 year veteran or 40 year practicing physician, who comes to a conclusion on this based on the snippets they saw on TV is a moron. They have no basis for the conclusion whatsoever.

no they werent idiotic, the guy has this reputation for a reason. i dont think there are too many other QB's that would have inspired these comments from all these players... get over your love affair with Cutler, he is who he is, a guy with the tools but no toolbox.

valo403 · 01-25-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk diggler

no they werent idiotic, the guy has this reputation for a reason. i dont think there are too many other QB's that would have inspired these comments from all these players... get over your love affair with Cutler, he is who he is, a guy with the tools but no toolbox.

Love affair with Cutler? I can't stand the guy, the only benefit he's ever brought was a couple good games upping his fantasy trade value. Doesn't change the fact that medical diagnosis based on tv coverage is idiotic.

dirk diggler · 01-25-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Love affair with Cutler? I can't stand the guy, the only benefit he's ever brought was a couple good games upping his fantasy trade value. Doesn't change the fact that medical diagnosis based on tv coverage is idiotic.

no question that a diagnosis based on tv coverage is stupid, but it is what happens when a guy acts like he does. I dont like the Bears at all, but i have to say if this guy brought the same intangables/desire to the game that Urlacher does, he would be a great player...