12-20-2010, 03:36 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal
How do these guys get money out of this scam?
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All it takes is 1 out of 10 people to phone that information line and find out that there's a processing fee to collect the actual check,
but for your convienience sir we can accept that processing fee in phone cheques or via credit card.
You must be so excited to win that money sir, now just bear with me while I take down that credit card number.
So what are you going to do with the money, a vacation with the wife? That sounds swell. Ok Mr Smith we've processed the payment, Can I have your email address so I can send you a receipt . . . Super. Ok, sir, I'll send that check out to you right away by courier, again congratulations Mr Millionaire have a nice day.
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12-20-2010, 03:44 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
also what is a bonus ball?
I bet a whole bunch of old people fell for that.
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Running these type of scams is no different then sales.
Lets say I send out a thousand of these things targeting old folks, hey I'm just a business sending out a mailer, I need the demographic information that I can buy.
So I send out a thousand, lets say that I get 1 out of 100, so I get 10 really solid suckers, and I ding them for a thousand bucks each.
Easy 10,000 dollars.
Then next month, I rotate a do a different one.
If I can scam 10 people a month for a $1000.00 that $100,000 per year.
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12-20-2010, 03:49 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DeWinton, AB
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I cant believe people actually fall for this kind of ####.
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12-20-2010, 03:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Easter back on in Vancouver
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My question is this.
If someone gets scammed into sending a cheque shouldn't it be easy to find out what bank account the money went in and the government putting a freeze on the scammers bank account?
Probably a good answer to this, but I have no clue how someone can cash scam cheques and not get caught. They should be able to trace the account number at the least.
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12-20-2010, 03:52 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DeWinton, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Running these type of scams is no different then sales.
Lets say I send out a thousand of these things targeting old folks, hey I'm just a business sending out a mailer, I need the demographic information that I can buy.
So I send out a thousand, lets say that I get 1 out of 100, so I get 10 really solid suckers, and I ding them for a thousand bucks each.
Easy 10,000 dollars.
Then next month, I rotate a do a different one.
If I can scam 10 people a month for a $1000.00 that $100,000 per year.
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Um its actually $120,000 per year, there are 12 months in a year.
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12-20-2010, 03:52 PM
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by TylerSVT
Um its actually $120,000 per year, there are 12 months in a year.
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We use metric years in Canada.
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12-20-2010, 03:53 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by puckluck
My question is this.
If someone gets scammed into sending a cheque shouldn't it be easy to find out what bank account the money went in and the government putting a freeze on the scammers bank account?
Probably a good answer to this, but I have no clue how someone can cash scam cheques and not get caught. They should be able to trace the account number at the least.
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Peoples first instincts are to call the company or person who scammed them, and you can certainly drag that out.
Most of the time, they take your credit card number and don't run it through themselves, they sell it to gangs so that they can create their own credit cards with your number.
Or they never deposit your cheque, but they now have your account number, your signature, your transit number.
The really dumb ones directly fraud you.
The smart ones sell the information.
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12-20-2010, 03:54 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by TylerSVT
Um its actually $120,000 per year, there are 12 months in a year.
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Thanks I was rounding down.
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12-20-2010, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerSVT
Um its actually $120,000 per year, there are 12 months in a year.
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Says the guy who thinks there's 57 weeks in a year...
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12-20-2010, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Hey getbak! Good work man!
I called Fraser Valley Refirdgeration and they said that indeed they have been defrauded and the police are very much involved. Aparently they've been getting loads of calls. I was asked to mail them back the fraudulent cheque and letter. I also mentioned CP, this thread, and getbak's effort specifically and they were very much stoked to find the website for the virtual offices.
CP comes through once again!!!
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12-20-2010, 05:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Peoples first instincts are to call the company or person who scammed them, and you can certainly drag that out.
Most of the time, they take your credit card number and don't run it through themselves, they sell it to gangs so that they can create their own credit cards with your number.
Or they never deposit your cheque, but they now have your account number, your signature, your transit number.
The really dumb ones directly fraud you.
The smart ones sell the information.
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How do you sleep at nite ripping off all those old people? hehe
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12-20-2010, 06:38 PM
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Norm!
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Well they are old, and kinda annoying.
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12-20-2010, 08:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale
CP comes through once again!!!
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CP is this decades answer to Scooby Doo and the gang - maybe one of us can bust into the guys office and pull the mask off of his face and expose him for the fraud that this guy cleary is....
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12-21-2010, 06:39 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
What would be the harm in trying to deposit this cheque? Is there a way for scammers to access your bank info if you do?
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Well, 2-5 days after depositing/cashing the cheque, your financial institution would likely call you and let you know you have a chargeback for a counterfeit cheque and that you were scammed. First you would pay the $5.00 - $10.00 chargeback fee for depositing a bad item, followed by having your account debitted for the dollar amount of the bad item itself.
You could end up sitting in an unauthorized overdrawn position of $3,000 and paying 21.00% - 24.00% in interest on the unauthorized overdrawn balance.
It's not worth it.
That being said, a good front line employee would stop the cheque from being negotiated in the first place.
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