2010 NFL Regular Season Thread

[KTown]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Please win your game this Sunday!

I wish we woul dhav kept the pennington starting scenario a secret till about today to not give the Titans any time to prep for penny. The only good news is there is not much footage on pennington and Marshall together.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes perhaps. I forgot about the prep time for Thursday. But we've seen good Thursday games before haven't we?

I'll keep my eye out for the next few Thursday games and then reassess.

Next week is Bears-Dolphins!

There was one good Thursday game last year with Jacksonville and Indianapolis. Other than that there were some bad ones like the Jay Cutler interception-a-rama where he threw 5 picks in a 10-6 loss to San Fran. The Browns win over the Steelers was an intriguing game...but still bad football. The Jets and Bills game in Toronto was also not very good.

This game at least got going a bit in the second half. But as the season progresses, and you don't have two teams of this calibre there will be some bad games...next weeks could be pretty awful, or at least the Bears could be.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Bears really suck, Dolphins should win easily or else they don't really deserve a playoff spot.

Well yes and no.

The Bears defense is one of the best in football..I think I heard yesterday they have given up the 3rd fewest points in the league. That defense is really good.

The offense though is a disaster. Worst in the NFL in 3rd down conversions and 4th worst in overall yards gained. Cutler continiues to make head-scratching decisions which are likely influenced by an O-line that cant keep the guy upright as he leads the NFL in being sacked.

A real Hekyl/Jekyl type team, that will see a massive overhaul if they dont get into the playoffs. One thing they have goin for them is how good they have been on the road but have been awful at home. Weird team

[GirlySports]

They've had a cupcake schedule. They're wins have been against CAR, DET, BUF, DAL and GB. GB being the only good one at home.

Their losses have been against NYG, SEA, and WSH. The NYG being the only tough opponent. 16 points a game against looks good on paper, but they've hardly played anyone.

MIN this week and MIA next week will be more of a test. Although MIN kind of sucks too.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They've had a cupcake schedule. They're wins have been against CAR, DET, BUF, DAL and GB. GB being the only good one at home.

Their losses have been against NYG, SEA, and WSH. The NYG being the only tough opponent. 16 points a game against looks good on paper, but they've hardly played anyone.

MIN this week and MIA next week will be more of a test. Although MIN kind of sucks too.

IMO there is no such thing as a cupcake schedule in the NFL. Besdies that you can only play who is on the schedule, though its obvious some are much tougher than others.

Even in their losses they havent given up much in the way of points. 17 to the Giants as an example....in NY. 23 pts to Seattle is the anomaly.

I agree though things get tougher from here on out for them and i hope they fold like a cheap tent.

On another note...has anyone played a tougher schedule in the NFL than the Ravens?

@ NY Jets
@ New England
@ Pittsburgh
@ Atlanta

Yikes.

[transplant99]

If there is any doubt whether PI should have been called on that last ATL TD, this should clear it up.

From Roddy Whites own mouth...

White said, smiling: “He tried to grab me so I pushed him down. You gotta do what you gotta do to win. Whatever it takes.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-bl...n-over-ravens/

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

If there is any doubt whether PI should have been called on that last ATL TD, this should clear it up.

From Roddy Whites own mouth...



http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-bl...n-over-ravens/

It doesn't clear up anything. From the article maybe the ref saw the grab and the push and saw it as a write-off. This article actually makes me lean more towards it NOT being PI.

Penalties are always a grey area because they are always subject to interpretation.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It doesn't clear up anything. From the article maybe the ref saw the grab and the push and saw it as a write-off. This article actually makes me lean more towards it NOT being PI.

Penalties are always a grey area because they are always subject to interpretation.

Uhhh...receivers are not allowed to push off...thats the rule. He admits doing just that.

Not sure what part of that you disagree with.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Uhhh...receivers are not allowed to push off...thats the rule. He admits doing just that.

Not sure what part of that you disagree with.

What's a push-off? I could make an argument that the DB went down really easy.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

What's a push-off? I could make an argument that the DB went down really easy.

Anything past 5 yards...and niether player is allowed to impede the other.

Regardless of that, the guy admits pushing the CB down, that simply is against the rule, whether or not the penalty was called..again I am not sure what you are arguing against and what part of his statement could lead you to lean against it NOT being PI. He admitted it.

Are you grumpy today?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Anything past 5 yards...and niether player is allowed to impede the other.


Are you grumpy today?

That's not set in stone or else you'd see alot more offensive PI called.
A defensive player and offensive player are certainly not equal after 5 yards. The offensive player always has more leeway, he can push somewhat. There's no illegal contact for offensive players for example. It's subject to the interpretation of the ref.

Yes, I'm always grumpy.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Anything past 5 yards...and niether player is allowed to impede the other.

Regardless of that, the guy admits pushing the CB down, that simply is against the rule, whether or not the penalty was called..again I am not sure what you are arguing against and what part of his statement could lead you to lean against it NOT being PI. He admitted it.

As you said neither player is allowed to impede the other. White said the other guy grabbed him. If there is a lot physical contact on both sides the ref either calls both or doesn't call anything. I am not saying that it wasn't PI, but if the other player grabbed him and he pushed there is a good chance neither would get called.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sowa

As you said neither player is allowed to impede the other. White said the other guy grabbed him. If there is a lot physical contact on both sides the ref either calls both or doesn't call anything. I am not saying that it wasn't PI, but if the other player grabbed him and he pushed there is a good chance neither would get called.

No, he said the other guy tried to grab him...and watching the replay i dont see it, but it may of happened.


regardless though...has nothing to do with anything. He admitted to pushing him, that is a penalty by rule.

I am not harping on White, WR's do this stuff all the time. It was a great play on his part and won his team the game. That doesnt mean it was an infraction though, it obviously was, it just wasn't called.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

What's a push-off? I could make an argument that the DB went down really easy.

It also makes no difference whether the guy went down at all...you just can't push off.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Slava

It also makes no difference whether the guy went down at all...you just can't push off.

Going down easy makes it look like a push.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Going down easy makes it look like a push.

GS....he SAID he pushed him...didn't 'look' like he pushed him, didnt 'act' like like he pushed him, didnt go down easy to draw a flag....he pushed him.

Again...cant be argued unless he is lying, which makes no sense.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

GS....he SAID he pushed him...didn't 'look' like he pushed him, didnt 'act' like like he pushed him, didnt go down easy to draw a flag....he pushed him.

Again...cant be argued unless he is lying, which makes no sense.

I wasn't replying to this particular play, I was reply to Slava in general about push-offs and going down.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by transplant99

GS....he SAID he pushed him...didn't 'look' like he pushed him, didnt 'act' like like he pushed him, didnt go down easy to draw a flag....he pushed him.

Again...cant be argued unless he is lying, which makes no sense.

Actually it can be argued, because penalties are not black and white. Refs decide how much pushing and contact they're going to let go, for all you know the official saw this and let it go.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I wasn't replying to this particular play, I was reply to Slava in general about push-offs and going down.

fair enough...selling the push off has become quite a part of a DB's arsenal of late as well.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by transplant99

fair enough...selling the push off has become quite a part of a DB's arsenal of late as well.

Yup. Conning the ref is part of every sport.

It's part of the ebb and flow of the game. In sports with fouls the ref either lets too much go at first or establishes control right away and the players adjust accordingly.