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Old 11-01-2010, 08:48 AM   #61
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It has no merit whatsoever. If you live in a country, by default you enjoy the privileges of citizenship, and also bear the responsibilities. If you are born and issued a birth certificate, then you are a citizen.

If you don't want to be a citizen of the country, or be governed, then your choice is to leave the national borders.

Then why do we recognize Quebec has a right to separate. Essentially that is just a large group of people declaring independance. If a large group can do it why can't an individual. I should repeat I think these guys are nuts in their whole doctorine.
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:10 AM   #62
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Let me know when we are going to put up a wall around the compound I will be there to help out.

If they want their little world lets give it to them. Lock em in, we cant just allow non citizens coming and going unchecked into our society any time they want.

They of course wont be part of our health system or food inspection programs and they might be infected and spread their disease to our society and we cant take that chance. Time to quarantine these people.

No communication lines,gas,water,power. No products from goverment subsidized programs like paper and fuels.

If they wish to live by those standards then I would support their right to do so. But I bet they are using a Thunderdome by the end of the week.
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:32 AM   #63
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Then why do we recognize Quebec has a right to separate. Essentially that is just a large group of people declaring independance. If a large group can do it why can't an individual. I should repeat I think these guys are nuts in their whole doctorine.
The thing is they are not declaring independence. They are saying I live in this country and enjoy all the benefits of being in this country but I don't need to follow all the rules.

I will be able to have the Fire Department come to my house and put out a fire, but I don't need to pay taxes.

I can drive down the road to get to my job, but I don't need to have a license or a registered vehicle.

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Old 11-03-2010, 12:45 PM   #65
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:43 PM   #66
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What idiots.
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:23 PM   #67
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I love how they think that if they use some magical words that they will get into trouble, but if they don't then there is nothing that can be done.
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:32 PM   #68
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I can only imagine what that cop was saying to his buddy after he first walked away from that guys car. OK so I've got some lunatic here saying that his car isn't a motor-vehicle, he keeps asking me for my business card, and that the London Police are Wal-Mart.
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If you want some entertaining reading for a while, the conspiracy section of the JREF forums has a few threads on this (well a lot, but a few active ones).

http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=91
Why have you done this to me? I'm totally registering on there for something to do on some really, really, really slow work days.

Oh yeah, and this guy is just a whacko that cant understand that while every motherfataer wants something for nothing, not everyone gets it.
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Menard, the supposed ringleader of them all, gets absolutely demolished in this thread.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=176799
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:16 PM   #72
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Quote from the article: “This is why you need to void all your identification, void all your contracts and just live your life with decency.”


So how do they know their numbers are growing? Can't identify them... they don't do contracts, so no memberships.
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Interesting. A couple years ago a buddy at work (a pretty reputable business man) was telling me about his brother in law that didn't pay taxes. Basically it came down to the fact that the government isn't allowed to tax its citizens, so instead it taxes a type of fictitional character. You are bound to this character through your SIN. Therefore if you have no SIN, or at least no ties between your money and your SIN, you do not have to pay any taxes on behalf of that fictitional character.

I never really looked into it, but it sounds like this freeman thing is pretty much what he was talking about.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:54 PM   #74
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I wonder if Tower ever got out of that ticket he was claiming he'd fight. Well, actually I DON'T wonder, but I do wonder if it woke him up to it all being a fantasy believed only by the abnormally credulous.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:32 PM   #75
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Exponentially? I always want to know what exponent.
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Interesting. A couple years ago a buddy at work (a pretty reputable business man) was telling me about his brother in law that didn't pay taxes. Basically it came down to the fact that the government isn't allowed to tax its citizens, so instead it taxes a type of fictitional character. You are bound to this character through your SIN. Therefore if you have no SIN, or at least no ties between your money and your SIN, you do not have to pay any taxes on behalf of that fictitional character.

I never really looked into it, but it sounds like this freeman thing is pretty much what he was talking about.
A reputable business man, who eats a lot of mushrooms after work.

I don't get how you can be a fictitious character attached to a sin number, since your sin number is your prime identifier with the government.

So I guess he shouldn't get paid because his employee number is attached to a fictitious character.

The only reason why your friend hasn't paid taxes is that the government hasn't caught him yet, but when they decide to kick the crap out of him, he's going to feel like his hole was reemed by the front end of a 747
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Read the comments under the article. I find it disturbing how many "freemen" there are commenting. Gives you some insight into how these people think.
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Interesting. A couple years ago a buddy at work (a pretty reputable business man) was telling me about his brother in law that didn't pay taxes. Basically it came down to the fact that the government isn't allowed to tax its citizens, so instead it taxes a type of fictitional character. You are bound to this character through your SIN. Therefore if you have no SIN, or at least no ties between your money and your SIN, you do not have to pay any taxes on behalf of that fictitional character.

I never really looked into it, but it sounds like this freeman thing is pretty much what he was talking about.
Sounds like the wackos I get who always tell me about income tax being a 'temporary war time measure' that was supposed to be repealed and as such they dont have to pay it.

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Old 11-04-2010, 09:51 AM   #79
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Maybe we should get these Freeman back on point

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I'm developing a perpetual motion energy machine in my bathtub, once I get that baby rocking and I can generate my own power, well, first the electric toothbrush, then the entire world shall tremble before my self powered iron fist!
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