2010 NFL Regular Season Thread

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by transplant99

GB has Superbowl aspirations....and they have no chance when playing a game like that. SB teams simply dont play as undisciplined as that abomination. Tauscher and Collins simply cannot take those kind of penalties as they are among the leaders on the team....monkey see-mokey do and it showed. This is still a really young team and the senior guys have to lead by example.

The old bugaboo from last year is back...penalties, special teams and stupid mental mistakes.

McCarthy and Thompson also have to take a very long and hard look at getting a real RB in town and pronto because Brandon Jackson is not an every down NFL RB and if this team cant run the ball at even an average way, they are toast. Marshawn Lynch has to be available from the Bills as an example.

On the bright side, Aaron Rodgers was brilliant. The receivers minus James Jones boneheaded fumble were good, and the O-Line pass protected very well. Hard to find fault when you dont give up a sack against a defense featuring Peppers, briggs and Urlacher. The run blocking was a completely different story.

Lots and lots of work to do in Wisconsin.

very disappointing result in a game they were the better team most of the night. I guess losing to a division rival on the road by a last second FG ahouldnt feel that bad, but this game was the Packers to win and they found ways to lose.

Aaron Rodgers was definately his usual self. The guy is automatic and it is frustrating as hell. But IMO Brandon Jackson needs to be given a bit more time. He is certainly not an every down back, and likely needs a 3rd down 5 and in RB to spell off of, but his first start was underwhelming and his second was against a defence that, when Urlacher is playing, is pretty tough to run against. That said, I wouldn't be shocked if the Packers make a play for Jacobs, Lynch or one of the Bengals trifecta based on this week alone.

That said, its hard tpo argue that the Packer aren't the clear favorite in the NFC with the Falcons close behind as a NFC champ favorite at least.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by DropIt

That said, its hard tpo argue that the Packer aren't the clear favorite in the NFC with the Falcons close behind as a NFC champ favorite at least.

What about the Saints??? They are at worst the 2nd best team in the NFC IMO.

Week 4:

Ravens @ Steelers
Bears @ Giants

Can the Steelers and Bears go to 4-0????? I think one of them will lose.

Chiefs have the week off. KC could be the only unbeaten team after week 4, wouldn't that be something!

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by transplant99

GB has Superbowl aspirations....and they have no chance when playing a game like that. SB teams simply dont play as undisciplined as that abomination. Tauscher and Collins simply cannot take those kind of penalties as they are among the leaders on the team....monkey see-mokey do and it showed. This is still a really young team and the senior guys have to lead by example.

The old bugaboo from last year is back...penalties, special teams and stupid mental mistakes.

McCarthy and Thompson also have to take a very long and hard look at getting a real RB in town and pronto because Brandon Jackson is not an every down NFL RB and if this team cant run the ball at even an average way, they are toast. Marshawn Lynch has to be available from the Bills as an example.

On the bright side, Aaron Rodgers was brilliant. The receivers minus James Jones boneheaded fumble were good, and the O-Line pass protected very well. Hard to find fault when you dont give up a sack against a defense featuring Peppers, briggs and Urlacher. The run blocking was a completely different story.

Lots and lots of work to do in Wisconsin.

very disappointing result in a game they were the better team most of the night. I guess losing to a division rival on the road by a last second FG ahouldnt feel that bad, but this game was the Packers to win and they found ways to lose.

To be honest, their lack of discipline won't matter if they can't get a running game going. While Rodgers is arguably one of the best passers in the game, they need to be able to gain some rushing yards. Their lack of faith in their run was brutally obvious in that series that started on their own 1 yd line (after Bears failed to convert on 4th and goal)

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

What about the Saints??? They are at worst the 2nd best team in the NFC IMO.

Week 4:

Ravens @ Steelers
Bears @ Giants

Can the Steelers and Bears go to 4-0????? I think one of them will lose.

Chiefs have the week off. KC could be the only unbeaten team after week 4, wouldn't that be something!

After this week, I like the Bears' chances against the Giants. They may be on the road, but Chicago is rolling while the Giants seem to be reeling and Coughlin could very well be on his way out the door. Eli looks as good as he has been, but the players around him are not playing up to par at all. And the defense leaves a lot to be desired. They are an 8-8 team IMO and I like Chicago's chances next week.

Steelers also can't be ignored on D. Ravens are good, yes, but I think their defense is still a bit over rated despite their first 2 weeks V the Jets and Cinci. They have a great pass rush, but their run D isn't as good as you would think a Lewis/Suggs tandem would be. Not to mention that despite the fact I think Joe Flacco will be a good QB in the future, they are trying to force their pass game a bit to much and taking the ball out of Rice's hands 3-5 time/game. They still have a good 1-2 hit rushing that they are starting to fade away from. I'm not sure whether its because they feel that they need to get a big lead so the defense can win it, but regardless Rice needs a bigger part in the O.

[Sylvanfan]

The Giants are pretty much continuing with the self destruct mode that started in their 6th game last year. They had to come back to beat a terrible Carolina team in week one and have been slapped around the last two weeks. I think the Bears will be able to shred their secondary Sunday night.

Ravens and Steelers though that's a close one. The Steelers D is back, but can they score enough against Baltimore to pull out the win. No doubt they'll look at the tape as Seneca Wallace didn't do that badly against the Ravens, and Cleveland did run the ball pretty well.

One thing I think will happen....there will be a winless team longer than there will be an undefeated team this year. Buffalo, Carolina, and Cleveland don't look to be winning any games anytime soon. Even the Lions who at times had looked improved are in tough.

[transplant99]

yeah i have to agree that the Giants are in a whole world of trouble and its a trend that started last year and has continued this season. Plaxico going to jail made them a very predictable team on offense and then the defense was shredded with injuries which started them spiralling downward. That hasnt changed. Eli can throw the ball around a bit and they have decent receivers, but the running game is where they should be buttering their bread and its just average any more.

The defense is getting run on all over the place, even though the pass D has been pretty good for the most part (although Peyton killed them but he does that to the best in the business regularly). Of course 2 of their games have come against Carolina and Tennessee both who are run the ball 1st and then run some more.

If NY doesnt beat the Bears this next weekend...they are done IMO. As a packer fan I am hoping they lay the wood to chicago and bring them down a notch, but Im not betting on it.

[OILFAN #81]

Colts President Bill Polian said on Monday that the 18 game regular season is a done deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=335469

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The Giants are pretty much continuing with the self destruct mode that started in their 6th game last year. They had to come back to beat a terrible Carolina team in week one and have been slapped around the last two weeks. I think the Bears will be able to shred their secondary Sunday night.

Ravens and Steelers though that's a close one. The Steelers D is back, but can they score enough against Baltimore to pull out the win. No doubt they'll look at the tape as Seneca Wallace didn't do that badly against the Ravens, and Cleveland did run the ball pretty well.

One thing I think will happen....there will be a winless team longer than there will be an undefeated team this year. Buffalo, Carolina, and Cleveland don't look to be winning any games anytime soon. Even the Lions who at times had looked improved are in tough.

I have to agree with about all of this. I don't think anyone can find someone who would say that a Rothleisberger-less team would be 3-0 so far, and to be honest I thought the defense was looking to take a step back, but they certainly slapped my face with their last 3 weeks, with their highlight being the complete shutting down of Chris Johnson. Their offense is shady which does give Baltimore an in, but as I mentioned I don't think the Ravens are where they need to be in order to be considered a contender, IMO they are giving Flacco too much load to carry, especially with the run attack that they have.

Like you said, the Giants are a team in trouble thus far. And when you put their mediocre run attack against the Bears' run D it doesn't look good. Look for Eli to air it out all game, in which Julius Peppers should have a field day against what looks like a confused Oline in NY. Cutler and Forte should have favourable days on Offense, and Hester's stock will continue to rise as he gets more comfortable with his 3rd year in an offensive role.

Can't say I'm not pleased with Hillis' production so far this year (fantasy pickup!), and I'm awaiting the results in what comes of a #1 back in cleveland as it could be yet another highly touted player uprooted in his position by someone much lower on the totem pole. But Hillis and his redzone carries and big running style is like a Willis McGahee reincarnate.

Bills continue to suck as always, and I wonder who takes a Flyer on Trent Edwards? Another Bust? Is he THAT bad, or is his poor play so far just a side effect from being on one of, if not the worst NFL team in the last 5 years?

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Colts President Bill Polian said on Monday that the 18 game regular season is a done deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=335469

Completely unneccassary when you consider what a Football player puts themself through each season. For once I will be rooting for the NFLPA to tak the money grubbing owners to the wood shed in terms of contracts and dollars come the start of the extended season

[KTown]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Completely unneccassary when you consider what a Football player puts themself through each season. For once I will be rooting for the NFLPA to tak the money grubbing owners to the wood shed in terms of contracts and dollars come the start of the extended season

I don't mind the owners giving less to the players as long as some of that comes in return to the ticket paying customer. The problem is we all know that won't happen.

The other issue I have is seeing all the high end rookies get loads of money for accomplishing nothing, some of that money should go to the vets. They've earned it. Some of that money should go the the players health fund once they stop playing. Some of these players have devoted so much of there bodies to the game that they're left in poor health once they are out of football. The retirees need to be better taken care of in my mind.

[Sylvanfan]

Well here are a few things I've noticed so far.

San Diego...better fix their special teams or they could end up like the Steelers did last year where it causes them enough losses to miss the playoffs. They're fortunate to be in the AFC West where no one else looks to be able to win more than 8 games. But the Chargers have lost two games due to terrible special teams thus far.

Denver has a lot of weapons at the receiver position and this is a team who traded away Brandon Marshall. But they better figure out how to run the ball again because QB's like Kyle Orton don't throw 35 TD passes a season. They'll need to run the ball into the end zone better than they are.

Michael Vick looks pretty damn good so far, and the Eagles have better weapons at the skill positions than they ever did during the McNabb days. They might just win the NFC East.

The NFC West may just be there for the taking for the Seahawks. If they can win at home, it's looking like 9-7 would certainly take that Division. The Niners look to be a team that looks like they're about to break out than take a step back. St.Louis though is maybe a bit better than I though, and maybe Bradford is the real deal. If they can keep him healthy, they've had a chance to win every game so far and that's without a lot of help not named Stephen Jackson.

Pittsburgh could very well be the best team if Roethlisberger can play anywhere near the level he played at last year. Thats another interesting Division because the Ravens look decent, and the Bengals bouncing back to beat the Ravens the way they did made me take notice that maybe this isn't the same Bengals organization that botches things every 2nd year.

AFC East is going to be a battle between the top 3 teams, right now the Jets have the edge having won their first two head to head games. If any of those teams lose to the Bills, that will pretty much end their shot at winning the Division. AFC South could be pretty similar.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Michael Vick looks pretty damn good so far, and the Eagles have better weapons at the skill positions than they ever did during the McNabb days. They might just win the NFC East.

I think that might be stretching it. The secondary is looking a lot better than I expected but the offensive line has been awful. I also think part of the reason the secondary has looked so good is that Trent Cole has been playing out of his mind so far, and the rest of the front seven have been pretty good as well. I reserving judgment until this weekend.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Completely unneccassary when you consider what a Football player puts themself through each season.

I don't see what the big deal is. CFL teams play 18 games. Rugby Union teams in England play at least 22 games domestically, plus European games. I think Aussie Rules teams play 22 games as well.

[Pagal4321]

I think the bottom line with the 18 game schedule, is that the players want to be compensated for an 18 game schedule as opposed to the 16 games they are paid for now.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think that might be stretching it. The secondary is looking a lot better than I expected but the offensive line has been awful. I also think part of the reason the secondary has looked so good is that Trent Cole has been playing out of his mind so far, and the rest of the front seven have been pretty good as well. I reserving judgment until this weekend.

Maybe, but look at the rest of that Division, and who's going to beat them? Every team in that Division has issues of some type. Dallas and the Giants both have issues with the O-Line. Even the Skins pass protection isn't exactly stellar. None of the other 3 teams are showing the ability to consistantly run the ball, and they've all had defensive issues of some type. In my opinion the NFC East is pretty much up for grabs, and given how the Eagles have played in the last 10 quarters with Vick taking the snaps, I like their chances as good as anyones.

[KTown]

Latest power roankings from ESPN have the Chiefs at #15, with teh Steelers at #1.

Interesting to say the least, I love what the Chiefs have done so far but I am not a believer in them yet. I wasn't a believer in the Broncos last year who started 6-0.

But if you're a chiefs fan its got to be great to have something to look forward to heading into October, this time last year along with others you might have bene thinking who are we going to draft next year.

It the Chiefs don't crumble in October and have a respectable 500 record than November is going to be an exciting time in KC.

Overall I am liking what I see in the NFL so far this year.

On a side note, I have a feeling the 72 dolphins have allready popped the champagne. For some reason the 3-0 teams left don't seem to be too scary to most people.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

It is pretty dirty. First I read about it was this morning. Seems to have worked pretty good so far in getting the other team to commit a penalty. However, the league and officials will be looking for it now. Maybe its his way of coming out of the closet.

Video has apparently been found:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/09/...ughty_bits.php

(video is blocked at work, how obvious is this?)

[moon]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Video has apparently been found:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/09/...ughty_bits.php

(video is blocked at work, how obvious is this?)

Obvious that his hand is in that region but you can`t see exactly what is going on.

I would say that it is pretty clear what is happening if you use logic but it isn`t 100% proof.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Video has apparently been found:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/09/...ughty_bits.php

(video is blocked at work, how obvious is this?)

He should get a one game suspension. You can't have players doing things like this. How would the union react to a suspension for grabing an other guys junk? Would they appeal it? What kind of message would that send if they did appeal it?

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by KTown

Latest power roankings from ESPN have the Chiefs at #15, with teh Steelers at #1.

Interesting to say the least, I love what the Chiefs have done so far but I am not a believer in them yet. I wasn't a believer in the Broncos last year who started 6-0.

But if you're a chiefs fan its got to be great to have something to look forward to heading into October, this time last year along with others you might have bene thinking who are we going to draft next year.

It the Chiefs don't crumble in October and have a respectable 500 record than November is going to be an exciting time in KC.

Overall I am liking what I see in the NFL so far this year.

On a side note, I have a feeling the 72 dolphins have allready popped the champagne. For some reason the 3-0 teams left don't seem to be too scary to most people.

Well I'm sure there are some Chiefs fans out there that are as dumb as the Oilers fans who are planning the 2011 Stanley Cup parade. I think most fans would be taking the 3-0 start in stride. Sure its been exciting so far, however there is still a long way to go.