Calgary Civic Election Poll #3: The race heats up

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by fotze

I was wondering why he wouldn't release it if it doesn't matter.

Hesla does have a point though, the highly sought and large, racist, senior vote might not like a lot of 'foreign sounding' names on his donor list.

Geez this reminds me a lot of Jacque Parizeau's comments after losing the referendum in 1995, where he blamed the loss on money and the ethnic vote. He got skinned alive by critics, and anyone that uses that to justify election problems is basically accusing the electorate of racism, and that doesn't fly with me.

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by fotze

I was wondering why he wouldn't release it if it doesn't matter.

Hesla does have a point though, the highly sought and large, racist, senior vote might not like a lot of 'foreign sounding' names on his donor list.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Ducay

On a related evil note, couldn't the developers derail his campaign by all donating lots of money to him? Once he releases his donor list, people would think he's under the arm of the developers....

Unless he uses the money to run an anti-developer campaign. I'd love to see that happen.

[Ducay]

Looks like McIver also released his list of campaign donors. Not many shockers on the list

http://McIver.com/campaigndonors

[kermitology]

Hah! You got me there!

[Byrns]

Nenshi, the Obama of CP.

[burn_this_city]

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Any candidate who wins this election has to be working for the young people just as much as the older ones. This is where the Ric McIver's of the race fails.

I believe there is only one Ric McIver in this election race.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I believe there is only one Ric McIver in this election race.

Brains - you've got them.

[burn_this_city]

The whole concept of appealing to young people being the key to winning is a joke. If your candidate is relying on the most apathetic segment of voters to win, you've already lost.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Cscutch

A quick question to everyone who is talking about Naheed not releasing his donor list yet. If he were to release it around the 20th or just after nomination day will that change your mind? Or have you already writen him off because he didn't release it earlier?

Chris

Writing him off for one campaign gaffe would be a little harsh. I've posted a lot of posts chiding him for it mostly because some of his biggest cheerleaders on here refuse to acknowledge it as a gaffe. For me every realistic candidate has done one thing or another to make me question them. Nenshi's still in my top 2 short list of candidates for mayor that I would vote for based on his policy ideas. This can become a non-issue for me should he disclose his donors shortly and said disclosure is completed in an extensive manor and does not contain any names or organizations that would cause me to question the authenticity of his platform.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

The whole concept of appealing to young people being the key to winning is a joke. If your candidate is relying on the most apathetic segment of voters to win, you've already lost.

This . . . if young people actually got out to vote instead of sucking up bong water and listening to your rock and or roll music then politicians would actually care about what you thought.

But since old people have tons of time on their hands, bad prostates and an un yeiding hatred of young people they get out to vote and thus they have the power.

Screw you young people.

[Knut]

Mmmm... nuts and gum, Together at last.

[kermitology]

At 33% turnout or worse of the past few years, engaging even a few of the younger voters, which someone like Nenshi is working hard to do, could really make in impact. I look at it as they're being engaged to see how civic issues impact them, and then also spreading that to the adult folks they interact with. I've certainly been doing that, and so have many others I know.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

This . . . if young people actually got out to vote instead of sucking up bong water and listening to your rock and or roll music then politicians would actually care about what you thought.

But since old people have tons of time on their hands, bad prostates and an un yeiding hatred of young people they get out to vote and thus they have the power.

Screw you young people.

It's a bit of a catch-22. There's no denying that younger people vote in proportionally lower numbers than older citizens, but why is that? Is it because young people are more interested in alcohol, drugs, rock music, video games, etc. than civic engagement? Or is it because most political candidates don't speak to issues important to their demographic because they're too busy trying to win support from the statistically-more-likely-to-vote older citizens?

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

It's a bit of a catch-22. There's no denying that younger people vote in proportionally lower numbers than older citizens, but why is that? Is it because young people are more interested in alcohol, drugs, rock music, video games, etc. than civic engagement? Or is it because most political candidates don't speak to issues important to their demographic because they're too busy trying to win support from the statistically-more-likely-to-vote older citizens?

Barb Higgins will attract the under 25 crowd with an accidentally leaked "home video". Sex sells!!

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Barb Higgins will attract the under 25 crowd with an accidentally leaked "home video". Sex sells!!

Maybe it's just me, but I don't find her that attractive. Any kind of 'video' that you suggested would have me ralphing in the loo pretty quick.

[Bigtime]

Nenshi is on QR77 right now.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

It's a bit of a catch-22. There's no denying that younger people vote in proportionally lower numbers than older citizens, but why is that? Is it because young people are more interested in alcohol, drugs, rock music, video games, etc. than civic engagement? Or is it because most political candidates don't speak to issues important to their demographic because they're too busy trying to win support from the statistically-more-likely-to-vote older citizens?

Personally I think it has less to do with issues and more to do with time. Older people (retirees) have more time to vote and do so. Young people are busier and don't end up making the time to actually go and vote. Its pretty easy to shrug it off as only one vote that wont make a difference. Rinse and repeat countless times.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Personally I think it has less to do with issues and more to do with time. Older people (retirees) have more time to vote and do so. Young people are busier and don't end up making the time to actually go and vote. Its pretty easy to shrug it off as only one vote that wont make a difference. Rinse and repeat countless times.

Which to me is silly, voting takes less then an hour of your life, and its the one right that your guaranteed in this society, the right to select your government.

I've always said the same thing, if you can't make time to vote then shut the hell up about your taxes, or laws, or the way your city is designed, or your country is run. You gave up your right to complain when you couldn't be bothered to take place in the process.