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wpgflamesfan · 09-06-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

Yeah because Boise St. has the strict academic standards of Vandy...

And what a ridiculous "turnaround question". Did you not watch them beat Va Tech straight up on the road hours ago? What about their two Fiesta Bowls? Or beating Oregon both years in a home-and-home?

So because they won 5 games that were all more then a month apart it means they're going to be able to handle a SEC schedule week after week?

EDIT: I'm sure the academics are why Vandy doesn't pull in decent recruits. Pretty sure Stanford has that same issue and does pretty well.

ipuckedyourmom · 09-07-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JayP

Yeah because Boise St. has the strict academic standards of Vandy...

And what a ridiculous "turnaround question". Did you not watch them beat Va Tech straight up on the road hours ago? What about their two Fiesta Bowls? Or beating Oregon both years in a home-and-home?

It wasn't a road game, it was a neutral site....

nickerjones · 09-07-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JayP

They played the game of their life...like when they dominated Oregon last year, like when they won a second Fiesta Bowl last year, like when they just beat Va Tech on the road hours ago. Keep holding onto that like a crutch.

And good job for beating Boise St. in yards (407 to 377) and turnovers (4 to 3) by tiny margins.

If OU won would you be saying that you needed a last minute TD drive (and 2 point convert) and a miracle INT to win? No, it'd be all BS about how OU dominated and showed those mid-majors who's the boss. Like I said, talk all you want about trick plays - Oklahoma still needed to come back from 18 points down to put Boise in position to make those plays.

I am just asking just to ask, do you think BSU was better than OU that year? BSU snuck up on OU because everyone took them lightly, it happens. THey jumped out to a quick lead and couldnt do anything in the 2nd half til the last drive . Good for them they surprised a team and their coach even said the same thing on ESPN the other day when asked about it . Was OU a better team .. sure , were the best team that day.. Nope . BUt it wasnt onesided domination by any means.

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

So because they won 5 games that were all more then a month apart it means they're going to be able to handle a SEC schedule week after week?

EDIT: I'm sure the academics are why Vandy doesn't pull in decent recruits. Pretty sure Stanford has that same issue and does pretty well.

Vandys athletic budget is UBER low! They put Academics over athletics. They will not budge on recruits to diminish it's academic reputation.

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nickerjones

I am just asking just to ask, do you think BSU was better than OU that year? BSU snuck up on OU because everyone took them lightly, it happens. THey jumped out to a quick lead and couldnt do anything in the 2nd half til the last drive . Good for them they surprised a team and their coach even said the same thing on ESPN the other day when asked about it . Was OU a better team .. sure , were the best team that day.. Nope . BUt it wasnt onesided domination by any means.

It was a trap game. Just like the Bama Utah game from 2 years ago.

Bama and OU were just not up for playing because they had hopes of national title games.

Displaced Flames fan · 09-07-2010, 12:05 AM

So what credit does Boise State get for the last ten years with you guys? Seriously. Are they just a program to be laughed at in your eyes?

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:07 AM

They are not a bad program but USF has come further in a shorter period of time and is BCS eligible.....

JayP · 09-07-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

So because they won 5 games that were all more then a month apart it means they're going to be able to handle a SEC schedule week after week?

EDIT: I'm sure the academics are why Vandy doesn't pull in decent recruits. Pretty sure Stanford has that same issue and does pretty well.

No, it means they'll be able to handle mediocre teams on a consistent basis. As for the whole "they'd wear down playing tough games every week" argument it's all hearsay. Just because SEC says it to pump up their conference doesn't make it true. Isn't it possible that playing better competition every week could actually make them a better team as they get teams closer to their skill level instead of pounding weaker teams every week?

And yeah that's exactly why Vandy doesn't pull in recruits. They graduate 91% of their players - tell me which SEC school even comes close to that figure. Stanford isn't exactly a model for success either - last season was their first winning season since 2001. They also play in the Pac-10 which is a much better academic conference than the SEC.

ipuckedyourmom · 09-07-2010, 12:08 AM

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It was a trap game. Just like the Bama Utah game from 2 years ago.

Bama and OU were just not up for playing because they had hopes of national title games.

Wow these excuses are just ridiculous.

nik- · 09-07-2010, 12:08 AM

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So what credit does Boise State get for the last ten years with you guys? Seriously. Are they just a program to be laughed at in your eyes?

Last 10 years? They lost their next two bowls after the first Fiesta Bowl over OU. They're not to be laughed at, they have a nice program there, but Strength of Schedule needs to be accounted for when talking about shots at the Championship game. Boise State doesn't have it.

ResAlien · 09-07-2010, 12:08 AM

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So what credit does Boise State get for the last ten years with you guys? Seriously. Are they just a program to be laughed at in your eyes?

Don't try to argue with SEC fans. They cannot be swayed. The SEC is the greatest football in the history of ever. All other teams would crumble facing them and anyone who isn't in the SEC is a lucky the NCAA lets them play still.

nik- · 09-07-2010, 12:10 AM

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Don't try to argue with SEC fans. They cannot be swayed. The SEC is the greatest football in the history of ever. All other teams would crumble facing them and anyone who isn't in the SEC is a lucky the NCAA lets them play still.

Nothing sways an argument like condescension.

JayP · 09-07-2010, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

It wasn't a road game, it was a neutral site....

Did you watch the game? The crowd was probably about 75% Va Tech, maybe more.

It might be called a neutral site, but Blacksburg is 4 hours from DC. Boise is 1.5 days.

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:11 AM

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Wow these excuses are just ridiculous.

Your screen name is ridiculous. Bama didn't care that they were playing in the sugar bowl. That's why they got waxed. How do I know? I've spoken with plenty of the players on that team. They didn't care one bit even that they lost to Utah.

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ResAlien

Don't try to argue with SEC fans. They cannot be swayed. The SEC is the greatest football in the history of ever. All other teams would crumble facing them and anyone who isn't in the SEC is a lucky the NCAA lets them play still.

Don't forget the big 12 south! It's southern football. you yanks wouldn't understand.

wpgflamesfan · 09-07-2010, 12:12 AM

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So what credit does Boise State get for the last ten years with you guys? Seriously. Are they just a program to be laughed at in your eyes?

I think that they are quite a remarkable program that takes average/low rated recruits and does a wonderful job with them. They do a tremendous job of preparing the team for the big games that they do happen to schedule and deserve a ton of credit for that.

With that being said, before I would even give them a chance to play for the title, I'd need to seem them go undefeated in something other than the 96th (2009), 94th (2008), 113th (2007), 90th (2006), 98th (2005) hardest schedule in division 1 football.

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:13 AM

the SEC has won how many national titles in a row?

PIMking · 09-07-2010, 12:15 AM

Oh before this gets out of hand, Nike should be ashamed of themselves with that garbage they put on those players tonight.

nik- · 09-07-2010, 12:15 AM

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the SEC has won how many national titles in a row?

Four ... but it's all just part of a big Southern conspiracy to keep Boise State down. The teams were actually crap.

wpgflamesfan · 09-07-2010, 12:15 AM

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the SEC has won how many national titles in a row?

Yeah I'm not even an SEC fan, but numbers like that don't lie.