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PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

SEC fan needs to give it a rest.

Boise St is going to lose to South Carolina? Va Tech is 10x the team the Gamecocks are yet you somehow have them losing to them at home?

I also don't see how you watch LSU almost lose (and probably should've lost had the refs thrown a PI on the last play) to a North Carolina team missing half their defense and all of their playmakers on offense and declare that they'd beat Boise in Boise as well. Apparently Alabama is so physically dominating that playing LSU THE VERY NEXT WEEK (!!!) implies an instant loss.

Basically every half-decent SEC team is apparently better than Boise St. Why don't you worry about Ole Miss losing to a Div 1-AA school before you pump up your conference and how half it's constituents would beat a top 5 team in the country?

The reason why they would lose those games is because of the grind week in and out playing quality opponents. You know nothing against wyoming or poly tech of Idaho....

Playing on the road one week then going home with only a week to game plan is going to suck for a team. They don't have a month to get ready for a team...

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

It's not that Boise couldn't beat any of these teams in a one and done game, it's playing them week after week after week that would make it difficult. Right now they have summer camp to prepare for VaTech then another 2 weeks for OSU then 3 months for their BCS games. The rest is just filler.

He said it better than my ramblings about nothing.

ipuckedyourmom · 09-06-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nickerjones

Yet it took them 2 perfectly executed trick plays in the last 40 seconds to win ... that is fact ... not something I am making up.

Wins are wins, get over it. Oklahoma LOST!

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

It's too bad BYU left the Mountain West. With TCU and BYU along with 2 decent OOC games, Boise's scheduling might actually start looking somewhat decent.

If BYU stayed I would say that they had a decent shot of stealing the BCS auto bid from the big east. Don't forget those are not just handed out. the bcs evaluates the conference and then decides which ones are BCS conferences.

nickerjones · 09-06-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

And they were leading that game from 5 minutes into the 1st quarter until 1 minute left in the 4th quarter. Leading by as much as 18 points as well.

Don't talk as if Boise St. put together some miracle rally down 14 points with 50 seconds left or something ridiculous. Boise St. was in that game from start to finish - and actually were the better team through-out.

That whole 99 times out of 100 they lose is complete BS.

dude come on, they played the game of their life and OU played a mediocre game led by their worst QB of the decade. Yes even worse the Nate Hybl and Rhett Bomar. Ou still beat them in total yards and turnovers ( it wasnt totalk domination like you allude to) ... and yet it still took 2 perfectly executed trick plays at the end of the game for BSU to win. I am sticking to my 99 times out of 100 they lose the game.

nickerjones · 09-06-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

Wins are wins, get over it. Oklahoma LOST!

Who is arguing that?

JayP · 09-06-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

It's not that Boise couldn't beat any of these teams in a one and done game, it's playing them week after week after week that would make it difficult. Right now they have summer camp to prepare for VaTech then another 2 weeks for OSU then 3 months for their BCS games. The rest is just filler.

If Boise St. played in the SEC, they'd have SEC quality recruits too. That completely nullifies that week after week argument.

And what Boise St. games in particular the past few years point to them being unable to handle mediocre teams like South Carolina or LSU on a weekly basis?

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

Ah I do agree but with all the mega-conferences these days you'd think they'd campaign to try and get in. To pay their way in, they must be loaded by now.

That's what I mean.. keep the BCS and let them cry and cry and cry... I don't want BSU or other undeserving teams in my playoff.

a playoff wont solve jack either. I will be the first to say it. Because would you take

UF
Bama
OSU
OK
Texas
USC
Oregon
Iowa
FSU
Miami

so on and so on.

Eventually you will have to keep adding teams because people will cry and moan that their team didn't get a chance.

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

If Boise St. played in the SEC, they'd have SEC quality recruits too. That completely nullifies that week after week argument.

And what Boise St. games in particular the past few years point to them being unable to handle mediocre teams like South Carolina or LSU on a weekly basis?

BSU would draw the occasional recruit from teams like Ole miss UK, vandy and MSu but not from the big boys of the group. No 5* is going to leave LA or GA or FL for Idaho...

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

If Boise St. played in the SEC, they'd have SEC quality recruits too. That completely nullifies that week after week argument.

And what Boise St. games in particular the past few years point to them being unable to handle mediocre teams like South Carolina or LSU on a weekly basis?

all big games that BSU has won were either at the beginning of the year or a bowl were they have had 20+ days to prepare for the team they are playing.

ipuckedyourmom · 09-06-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nickerjones

Who is arguing that?

You are, by continually bringing up how Boise State won the game. End of the day, they won that game and were the better team.

GirlySports · 09-06-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMking

a playoff wont solve jack either. I will be the first to say it. Because would you take

UF
Bama
OSU
OK
Texas
USC
Oregon
Iowa
FSU
Miami

so on and so on.

Eventually you will have to keep adding teams because people will cry and moan that their team didn't get a chance.

I agree, I'm anti-playoff in college football. It just gets watered down.

But you don't like a playoff nor the BCS.. so what's the solution?

wpgflamesfan · 09-06-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

If Boise St. played in the SEC, they'd have SEC quality recruits too. That completely nullifies that week after week argument.

And what Boise St. games in particular the past few years point to them being unable to handle mediocre teams like South Carolina or LSU on a weekly basis?

If Boise played in the SEC, they'd have Vanderbuilt quality recruits. And you could turn the second question around. What BSU games in particular the past few years point to them being able to handle mediocre teams like SC or LSU on a weekly basis.

nickerjones · 09-06-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

You are, by continually bringing up how Boise State won the game. End of the day, they won that game and were the better team.

Well I dont believe I ever questioned the outcome of the day. Quit being a knob... I expressed my opinion on the game based on facts. They won the game because of 2 trick plays that more than likely they couldnt not repeat. They did not dominate the game as JAYp said . They scored some quick pts but couldnt do jack in the 2nd half offensively til the last drive of the game. I dont see anywhere in there where I said they didnt win the game in question.

And NO the better team does not always win the football game? Was Tech a better team than texas a couple years ago when they beat Texas on Crabtree's last second TD ... NO but they still won... It doesnt always play out that the better team wins.

ipuckedyourmom · 09-06-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMking

a playoff wont solve jack either. I will be the first to say it. Because would you take

UF
Bama
OSU
OK
Texas
USC
Oregon
Iowa
FSU
Miami

so on and so on.

Eventually you will have to keep adding teams because people will cry and moan that their team didn't get a chance.

Well USC has a 2 year bowl ban so scratch them out.

JayP · 09-06-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nickerjones

dude come on, they played the game of their life and OU played a mediocre game led by their worst QB of the decade. Yes even worse the Nate Hybl and Rhett Bomar. Ou still beat them in total yards and turnovers ( it wasnt totalk domination like you allude to) ... and yet it still took 2 perfectly executed trick plays at the end of the game for BSU to win. I am sticking to my 99 times out of 100 they lose the game.

They played the game of their life...like when they dominated Oregon last year, like when they won a second Fiesta Bowl last year, like when they just beat Va Tech on the road hours ago. Keep holding onto that like a crutch.

And good job for beating Boise St. in yards (407 to 377) and turnovers (4 to 3) by tiny margins.

If OU won would you be saying that you needed a last minute TD drive (and 2 point convert) and a miracle INT to win? No, it'd be all BS about how OU dominated and showed those mid-majors who's the boss. Like I said, talk all you want about trick plays - Oklahoma still needed to come back from 18 points down to put Boise in position to make those plays.

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

I agree, I'm anti-playoff in college football. It just gets watered down.

But you don't like a playoff nor the BCS.. so what's the solution?

I love the bowl system. I don't hate the BCS either.

One thing that is nice now the sos (strength of sched) has been added so it helps from sandbagging.

I just don't like how BSU is already being anointed to play in the title game already when they play 2 games a year. ESPN will make sure the voters vote them #2 so they get the bid.

The only thing the rest of the country can hope for is somehow BSU looses (doubt) or VT looses a couple of more games along with OSU (oregon state) looses a couple of games to drive that SOS from 90 to around 100.

I bet when the AP poll comes out they will be #2 with the 2nd highest #1 votes besides Bama.

JayP · 09-06-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan

If Boise played in the SEC, they'd have Vanderbuilt quality recruits. And you could turn the second question around. What BSU games in particular the past few years point to them being able to handle mediocre teams like SC or LSU on a weekly basis.

Yeah because Boise St. has the strict academic standards of Vandy...

And what a ridiculous "turnaround question". Did you not watch them beat Va Tech straight up on the road hours ago? What about their two Fiesta Bowls? Or beating Oregon both years in a home-and-home?

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:57 PM

Also I would like to point out that LSU is better than they are ranked. The coaching they have is worse than the management team in Edmonton.

PIMking · 09-06-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

Yeah because Boise St. has the strict academic standards of Vandy...

And what a ridiculous "turnaround question". Did you not watch them beat Va Tech straight up on the road hours ago? What about their two Fiesta Bowls? Or beating Oregon both years in a home-and-home?

well they have 12 days off before they play that juggernaut of a team in Wyoming.

Also, Lets say you're a 4 or 5* recruit. Play for Auburn, Bama, Florida, UGA, LSU, USCe or for Boise?