The Daily Show/Colbert Report

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by MattyC

the problem is it shouldnt just be liberals that are outraged. everyone should be outraged the guy is a f***ing lunatic

I agree. But if the ratings are good then nobody cares. The best way to get rid of him would be to just ignore him.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Anybody catch last night's episodes? Stewart's spoof of Beck was awesome.

It was such a classic!!!... did you notice the only commercial break was before the interview.

They were not going to break up that skit.

[PyramidsofMars]

Originally Posted by MattyC

watching it now....how some people can take someone like Glen Beck seriously is beyond me.

Never underestimate the brilliance of contemporary American conservatism... seemingly founded on terrible rhetoric that a hard-working tenth-grader should be able to debunk. Sadly the left's rhetoric is as bad, it's just that their ideas aren't as nutty.

What really scares me is that a lot of Canadian conservatives (and liberals, and social democrats) seem to think that American conservatism is the same thing as Canadian conservatism.

I really wish that someone could come up with rhetoric effective enough to make campaigning on a centrist platform realistic. In Canada, we basically have two major centrist parties, one left-wing party (Bloc), and a social democratic party (NDP). However, in both our regular everyday discourse and in actual politics, we seem really intent on acting as if the Liberals represent the USSR and the Conservatives represent Italy under Mussolini... Which, of course, takes the discussion away from the policies that really do differentiate the parties. Oh, don't forget all the ad hominem attacks that we're supposed to think are clever... "Oh, Harper has tenuous connections to fundamentalist Christians, he only supports Jews/Israel for religious reasons!" Yep, I'm sure it has nothing to do with policy, interests, and the current political climate. Or, "oh, Ignatieff lived outside Canada, he's not a Canadian!" Wow, an academic worked in other countries?! Gee, whiz! What a stunning discovery! What, exactly, does this say about how much he knows or cares about Canada, or how good of a leader he would be?

[Coach]

Pretty much agreed with everything you said Pyramid. Another thing that bugs me is that both major parties seem to not be allowed to agree on anything. Thats why dick all gets done. I loved in the televised heath care thing that Obama had, one of the republican reps said something and Obama was like "Yup thats a good point" and the guy was about to retort back expecting Obama to contradict him or something, like he just looked dumbfounded at one happened. Like "becau.......oh......thanks....."

[Hemi-Cuda]

dammit. of all the weeks for The Daily Show to take a vacation, they choose the one that just happens to coincide with one of the biggest US legislation battles in decades. i was really looking forward to what Stewart's reaction would be (and showing the Fox news talking heads in despair is always entertaining)

[Devils'Advocate]

Not very good planning, eh? And they always seem to do this... take weeks off during important events. Most times it is unintended.... they take a week off and something really big happens in the world. But this one was obviously coming to a climax and he decides to go on vacation?!?

[troutman]

http://www.thecomedynetwork.ca/Displ...2-abba6a6efdd2

Traveling to Europe with a male prostitute from rentboy.com because you can't lift your own luggage makes perfect sense.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Pretty old but I thought I'd bump this.

If anyone missed the Daily Show from about 3 or 4 days ago you missed out on one of the all time great segments.

It was entitled "I Give Up" and was in regards to a law that would've seen $$ go towards health care coverage for 9/11 first response hero's who have health problems but lack health care coverage.

You can watch it on the comedy network site. If I had to guess I'd say it was last Thursdays or this Mondays episode, I watch them on PVR so I'm never up to date.

[peter12]

Allow me to stick up for American conservatism... if you read the Weekly Standard of National Review, American conservatism doesn't seem so juvenile or "10th grade."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/825grtdi.asp

[SebC]

Originally Posted by peter12

Allow me to stick up for American conservatism... if you read the Weekly Standard of National Review, American conservatism doesn't seem so juvenile or "10th grade."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/825grtdi.asp

tldr

That article represents you perfectly. Instead of making a point concisely it just makes you read on and on and on.

[Cactus Jack]

nm

[holden]

Originally Posted by peter12

Allow me to stick up for American conservatism... if you read the Weekly Standard of National Review, American conservatism doesn't seem so juvenile or "10th grade."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/825grtdi.asp

The Weekly Standard is a conservative, and some say neo-con, magazine. What kind of accuracy are you going to pull out of that?

I don't want to lump all american conservatives together, but as long as the tea party, a mormon, and the Wasilla Killa are driving the bus they're not in good hands.

Tea Party Facts (No source, but I wouldn't put any of these past them)

64% of Tea Party activists think that America’s best years are behind us.

66% think global warming does not exist or will not have a serious impact.

57% think George W. Bush was a good President.

40% think Sarah Palin would also be a good President.

32% think that violent action against the government could be justified.

42% want to decrease legal immigration.

41% believe that gay couples should have no form of legal recognition.

45% believe that abortion laws should be stricter than they already are.

59% like Glenn Beck.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by holden

The Weekly Standard is a conservative, and some say neo-con, magazine. What kind of accuracy are you going to pull out of that?

So do you actually believe that the Daily show and Colbert Report accurately convey conservative thought? Where is your source for "accurate" conservative opinion?

Originally Posted by holden

Tea Party Facts (No source, but I wouldn't put any of these past them)

64% of Tea Party activists think that America’s best years are behind us.

66% think global warming does not exist or will not have a serious impact.

57% think George W. Bush was a good President.

40% think Sarah Palin would also be a good President.

32% think that violent action against the government could be justified.

42% want to decrease legal immigration.

41% believe that gay couples should have no form of legal recognition.

45% believe that abortion laws should be stricter than they already are.

59% like Glenn Beck.

The worst stat I see there is that only 32% think that violent action against the government could be justified. It demonstrates a lack of appreciation/understanding of the founding of America.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by peter12

Allow me to stick up for American conservatism... if you read the Weekly Standard of National Review, American conservatism doesn't seem so juvenile or "10th grade."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/825grtdi.asp

Ah, yes, the fifties! When men drank and drove home. Where women were given a nice pat on the ass for a job well done. A time when the President's parents wouldn't have been allowed to marry. Where if a young person found themselves to be gay or transgender, complete alienation and often times suicide followed. It's always great to hear well-off white men talk about the lost civility of post WWII USA.

[Azure]

What scares me is that instead of worrying about the actual problems in the US, like social security, medicare, health care reform(which Obamacare isn't), ridiculous taxing schemes, outrageous military spending, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, the economy, jobless rates, and a billion other problems, including what should be your richest state not being able to bankroll their budget, the whole country, including every single politician alive seems more worried about filling their pockets, and making sure they get re-elected, and none of them seem to give a damn about what is quite apparent. The US is damn near bankrupt, and if it continues its present course, they will be bankrupt soon.

Every single time an election rolls around, politicians get up on their pupil and preach to the stupid public how they're going to fix things, turn the country around, stop spending so much money that they don't have, and reform this that and the other thing. And yet none of them are even interested in doing that.

To me its actually hilarious that in this day and age, someone is still naive enough to actually think the Democrats or the Republicans are going to change anything. When you've been given decades of time, and the country goes further into a mess every single year, I think its time to clean house.

But hey, conservatives are stupid 10th graders, and Jon Stewart is da bomb!!

[Weiser Wonder]

Well there is a 30% contingent of the Democratic Party that isn't corrupt. Whereas the Republican Party it's damn near 0%. That sounds like partisan rhetoric, but it's true.

[Azure]

Well, I have said before that I believe there are a certain number of Democrats who seem to be more in tune with what the country needs.

Problem is they are VERY overwhelmed by the rest of Capital Hill, which to me is proud of being a bunch of corrupt, old, senile fools.

So in the end, will they change anything? Probably not. While morons like Reid, Pelosi and Obama run the Democrat party, nothing will change.

And I only bash the Democrats because they are the ruling part both in the Executive AND Legislative branches.

Another thing I'll mention, while Obama is far from being at fault with the state the US is in right now, his big government policies have done absolutely nothing to help the ordinary US citizen. He has failed to inspire, and quite frankly has been led around by the nose by the ######s of the Democrat Party.

Tax and spend doesn't work any better than cut and spend. When European countries are starting to cut deficits and the US just keeps spending more and more and more, it tells you something is wrong.

[Weiser Wonder]

Well it's not some Pelosi and Reid as it is Evan Bayh, Lieberman and the rest of the moderate Democrats. Moderate is just a code word for corporatist. They hold no real positions and do their financial backers bidding. Pelosi, at least, has principles and fights for them.

Evan Bayh, for example, agreed to join a Republican filibuster of the public option on healthcare, because he said the bill was too left wing for his liking. Of course, when the bill became a giant pay-out to insurance companies, Bayh no longer filibustered. Come to find out, Bayh's wife is a healthcare industry lobbyist. Bayh later announced he was retiring. He was asked if he was going to take a lobbyist position for the healthcare industry. He said that he wouldn't rule anything out.

EDIT: Include Obama in the Bayh, Lieberman group. He took their side throughout.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by holden

The Weekly Standard is a conservative, and some say neo-con, magazine. What kind of accuracy are you going to pull out of that?

I don't want to lump all american conservatives together, but as long as the tea party, a mormon, and the Wasilla Killa are driving the bus they're not in good hands.

Tea Party Facts (No source, but I wouldn't put any of these past them)

64% of Tea Party activists think that America’s best years are behind us.

66% think global warming does not exist or will not have a serious impact.

57% think George W. Bush was a good President.

40% think Sarah Palin would also be a good President.

32% think that violent action against the government could be justified.

42% want to decrease legal immigration.

41% believe that gay couples should have no form of legal recognition.

45% believe that abortion laws should be stricter than they already are.

59% like Glenn Beck.

This list is false. This is something Fox or msnbc would put out on the tea party.

The tea party does not care for George Bush, Glen Beck or Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin, as much as I want to bone her, just attached her establishment republican self to the tea party movement to gain some notoriety. She hijacked it....and it is going to backfire on her if it hasn't already.

Only un-informed suckers would take that list seriously.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

What scares me is that instead of worrying about the actual problems in the US, like social security, medicare, health care reform(which Obamacare isn't), ridiculous taxing schemes, outrageous military spending, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, the economy, jobless rates, and a billion other problems, including what should be your richest state not being able to bankroll their budget, the whole country, including every single politician alive seems more worried about filling their pockets, and making sure they get re-elected, and none of them seem to give a damn about what is quite apparent. The US is damn near bankrupt, and if it continues its present course, they will be bankrupt soon.

This just shows you who is running the show in America.

It's all about wall street and the military industrial complex.