World Cup South Africa, 2010 Thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Well that is where the Italian greasy play made it's debut!

Well thankfully us Italians still have three other "clean" World Cup trophies to be happy about.

Forza Azzurri!

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[arloiginla]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

would need a win still, draw to qualify but if Serbia beat Australia they would be on 6 to Germany's 4

I think they can beat Ghana though, which most likely wins them the group

and not worried about no Klose, Cacau or Gomez can both be target men

or they could go with Podolski up top and put Marin in at LAM where Podolski was playing

They should be able to beat Ghana if they have any hopes of winning this tournament, but it's unfortunate that they've put themselves in this situation as anything can happen....like today.

Podolski is not a winger. His game is getting to the middle and using his shot. But his finishing NEEDS to be better, it's a risk to use him up top right now as his confidence has to be shot.

Wednesday can't come quick enough.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by NBC

There is a massive difference in having a linesman or referee make a judgment call on a goal and the blatant attempts of others to cynically put the ball in the net with a hand and try and fool the match officials. Hurst's second goal being counted was the result of an official's call, not him 'cheating' to score, ie. the Hand of God, diving for a penalty, feigning injury to have your opponent sent off, deliberately causing injury or engaging in unsportsmanlike behaviour.

There are many examples of cheating in football at the international level, however the 3rd goal in the 1966 World Cup final isn't one. It is akin to saying Tampa Bay cheated to win the Cup on 2004, when in reality they had nothing to do with the non-call.

Oh and to the other poster, Pearce's shot was down the middle in '90. Chris Waddle's effort was the one that went high, a la Roberto Baggio.

Yeah right, all of those favourable things just happened to occur for England when the World Cup was on home soil and the president of FIFA was an Englishman. I'm sure England had nothing to do with anything

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Well thankfully us Italians still have three other "clean" World Cup trophies to be happy about.

Forza Azzurri!

"Clean" World Cup trophies almost always pertain to which side you are backing, they are pretty subject.

[GirlySports]

Every World Cup is clean, suck it up and move on

You guys are arguing nothing while maybe the match of the tournament is going on!

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Please Mussollini hand picked every ref for each game back in the day. They said it was so bad the refs were actually passing the ball to Italian players! A missed goal decision happens, blatant cheating shouldnt.

Sadly, I have no idea what happened in 1938... and I doubt you do either. It wasn't televised so I have no idea how you would have any actual knowledge about it. The thing is though, unlike England, Italy has been to the final and won the World Cup more than once. It seems kind of odd that an alleged super power has never even come close to winning anything after their 1966 victory.

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Yeah right, all of those favourable things just happened to occur for England when the World Cup was on home soil and the president of FIFA was an Englishman. I'm sure England had nothing to do with anything

Well if it makes you happy, we can change history and give the disputed goal back to W. Germany. So England wins the final 3-2.

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Sadly, I have no idea what happened in 1938... and I doubt you do either. It wasn't televised so I have no idea how you would have any actual knowledge about it. The thing is though, unlike England, Italy has been to the final and won the World Cup more than once. It seems kind of odd that an alleged super power has never even come close to winning anything after their 1966 victory.

How much of the 66 final did you watch?

[Pastiche]

The best story I've heard of malfeasance was the French Intelligence Service blackmailing Ronaldo in the early morning of the World Cup final in 1998 telling him to not show up for the final or else they would release pictures and evidence of him in relations with planted underage prostitutes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcu...00/1749324.stm

[NBC]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Yeah right, all of those favourable things just happened to occur for England when the World Cup was on home soil and the president of FIFA was an Englishman. I'm sure England had nothing to do with anything

Conspiracy theorists of world unite.

[NBC]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Sadly, I have no idea what happened in 1938... and I doubt you do either. It wasn't televised so I have no idea how you would have any actual knowledge about it. The thing is though, unlike England, Italy has been to the final and won the World Cup more than once. It seems kind of odd that an alleged super power has never even come close to winning anything after their 1966 victory.

Two World Wars and One World Cup, do dah, do dah!

US players flopping all over the place desperately trying to get someone sent off. Hope if backfires.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Well if it makes you happy, we can change history and give the disputed goal back to W. Germany. So England wins the final 3-2.

Ummm... no. Without the score being 3-2, Germany does not put all their men up high in an attempt to equalize and England do not score on the counter attack at the last minute. Your fourth goal is akin to an empty netter in hockey.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

How much of the 66 final did you watch?

Saw it on youtube.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I have zero idea what this means.

fixed your post. u put serbian instead of slovenian

[transplant99]

Hercules Gomez?? What a freakin awesome name.....if he scores a goal, the US media will be ALL over that!!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sowa

fixed your post. u put serbian instead of slovenian

yeah...noticed after i posted and changed it right away. hard to keep all these countries straight!

[Ark2]

Wow! This is huge.

[transplant99]

nice!! What a comeback.

[North East Goon]

Wow, coming back from 2-0 awesome game.