LOST sixth and final season

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

How so? You want to explain it then?

We all have our theories, but it would be nice to see more than a one liner...

Very important in the economy of the finale is watching the pilot again. When Jack goes out on the beach, he turns his head to the right and there is perfect silence and a perfect untouched sand and water. Then he turns his head to the left, and we do not see what is it that he sees. And then he makes a few steps and reality kind of “blurs” and he is all of the sudden in the middle of an inferno – the plane crash – noises, people crying, engine etc. There’s NO WAY someone could have “missed” all that and watched first to the right. he is practically “recreating” a reality.

Well you didn't even understand Kimmell and what he was saying at all.


Jimmy Kimmel last night..."The Life on the Island was his real life"

"and maybe each of the characters have there own story and own test"

Not a quote from JK last night but explains it
"still think people believe the island was purgatory. It wasn't. The flash sideways was what we are calling purgatory...The island was real, everything that happened there was real, Hurley and Ben continued to protect the island after Jack died...Sawyer and the scooby gang left the island and continued to have lives...it was only in some "time" that wasn't "time" in the future when they all died that they came together to move on, really move on."

[flames_1987]

Jack Sheppards Dad

"Everything that's ever happened to you is real. All those people in the church, they're all real, too... the most important time of your life was the time you spent with these people."

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Well you didn't even understand Kimmell and what he was saying at all.

I said "Kimmel was on to something". I didn't say everything he said was what I had thought. What I meant was his thoughts about Jack dying at a certain time and it being about Jack and "his journey".

Every plot line I can come up with/read about has holes in it. It is interesting to me that jack dies right where he wakes up from the initial crash and how the reality seems to "appear" in the first episode. Also, there was something written on the shoe in the tree. Did anyone see what was written on it?

The smoke monster and Jacob could really simply be Jack's personal turmoil (good vs evil). The dharma initiative could simply be Jack's mind (the science part of his mind - being a doctor and all) trying to deal with the rest of what his mind created in his own personal purgatory...

Listen, these are just thoughts. I've read other theories that seem to make sense as well. Just because you think you've got it all worked out, doesn't mean you do. It is open to interpretation. It wasn't all wrapped up in a neat bow.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Jack Sheppards Dad

"Everything that's ever happened to you is real. All those people in the church, they're all real, too... the most important time of your life was the time you spent with these people."

And how do we know that was real?

[HPLovecraft]

Damn, a day later and I'm still emotional over the end of Lost.

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

And how do we know that was real?

Because I'm going to assume it was a line directly put into the finale by Darlton to stray people away from believing the theory you have.

Your welcome to have that theory, I just didn't think it was anything like what Jimmy said last night

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Every plot line I can come up with/read about has holes in it. It is interesting to me that jack dies right where he wakes up from the initial crash and how the reality seems to "appear" in the first episode.

You can read a millions things into every little nuance but sometimes those nuances aren't that important. As Jacob told Kate, "it's just a line through the name, you can still have the job if you want it".

People can put too much importance on little things. That Jack ended on the island where he began on the island doesn't necessarily mean much.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Because I'm going to assume it was a line directly put into the finale by Darlton to stray people away from believing the theory you have.

Your welcome to have that theory, I just didn't think it was anything like what Jimmy said last night

Fair enough. Like I said, I've read many a theory and they all seem to have holes. I found it interesting none the less that Jack died basically in the exact same spot.

While then the most common theory that everything that happened on the island indeed happened, and some got off, as in Kate and the rest of the bunch and died later on, while Hurley stayed on the island and protected it along with Ben and the reason why Ben didn't go into the church was because he was still protecting the island, is interesting as well.

That theory is most likely the explanation most are looking for...still like my theory better...

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

People can put too much importance on little things. That Jack ended on the island where he began on the island doesn't necessarily mean much.

Other than EVERYTHING!!

[D to the iddy]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

While then the most common theory that everything that happened on the island indeed happened, and some got off, as in Kate and the rest of the bunch and died later on, while Hurley stayed on the island and protected it along with Ben and the reason why Ben didn't go into the church was because he was still protecting the island, is interesting as well.

My take on it is that the reason Ben didn't go into the church was that he wasn't ready to "move on" and that he wanted to stay in the Flash Sideways.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by D to the iddy

My take on it is that the reason Ben didn't go into the church was that he wasn't ready to "move on" and that he wanted to stay in the Flash Sideways.

I still go back to the consistency issue Walt was trapped on the Island as a whisper because of the bad things that he did.

Ben did even worse things on the Island and he was allowed into the waiting room.

Walt was sorry and did try to redeem himself as well and he continues to be punished. Ben seems to have gotten a free pass.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by D to the iddy

My take on it is that the reason Ben didn't go into the church was that he wasn't ready to "move on" and that he wanted to stay in the Flash Sideways.

Sure, that could be, or he could simple be protecting the island like he had been doing all along...because Hurley was moving on.

My favourite line from the finale:

"I don't believe in a lot of things but I believe in duct tape" - Miles

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I need to rewatch the pilot & finale. But here are a few thoughts that people have tocuhed upon

Walt was a child, children's innocence would mean that Walt wasn't flawed like the rest of the cast. The show made a big deal about the seperation of children & adults. Perhaps that's why Walt wasn't there, he wasn't flawed *like* the rest were

Michael wasn't there as he didn't do enough to redeem himself to get to the church. Ihe meeting was the will of Hurley, surely his #2 would be aware of it, and perhaps redeemed himself to get to go but opted not to now that he once again has Alex (like Elouise). Perhaps he just doesn't feel worthy?

I don't think Jack died at the start, I think it was fitting for him to die where he first woke up on the island. A nice little open & close in the same way.

It always ends the same, eveything else is just progress. This is important, haven't figure out why yet

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I still go back to the consistency issue Walt was trapped on the Island as a whisper because of the bad things that he did.

Ben did even worse things on the Island and he was allowed into the waiting room.

Walt was sorry and did try to redeem himself as well and he continues to be punished. Ben seems to have gotten a free pass.

I'm assuming you mean Michael?

For all we know Ben redeemed himself. We don't know how long he served on the Island as Hurley's #2. The Island let him go. Michael wandered the Island lost, but that doesn't mean by that point he hadn't been found.

[D to the iddy]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Sure, that could be, or he could simple be protecting the island like he had been doing all along...because Hurley was moving on.

I guess I'm in the camp that says that in the Flash Sideways everyone has passed on and that it's separate from the Original Timeline, so I can't see how Ben would be still protecting the island in the Flash Sideways as he's passed on.

In the end, the producers can be looked at as brilliant because they still evoked the same questions, discussion and interpretation as "The Sopranos" without the cop out ending.

[Antithesis]

How confused must Richard have been to return to society in the early 21st century? The spinoff possibility for some kind of fish-out-of-water story are amazing!

[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I still go back to the consistency issue Walt was trapped on the Island as a whisper because of the bad things that he did.

Ben did even worse things on the Island and he was allowed into the waiting room.

Walt was sorry and did try to redeem himself as well and he continues to be punished. Ben seems to have gotten a free pass.

Don't you mean Michael? I thought Walt was his son?

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by D to the iddy

I guess I'm in the camp that says that in the Flash Sideways everyone has passed on and that it's separate from the Original Timeline, so I can't see how Ben would be still protecting the island in the Flash Sideways as he's passed on.

Yeah, you're most likely right. Hurley's line "You were a great second" makes that make more sense.

[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Sure, that could be, or he could simple be protecting the island like he had been doing all along...because Hurley was moving on.

My favourite line from the finale:

"I don't believe in a lot of things but I believe in duct tape" - Miles

I think Ben did not move on because he needed to reconcile things with his daughter Alex.

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

How confused must Richard have been to return to society in the early 21st century? The spinoff possibility for some kind of fish-out-of-water story are amazing!

Ahhhhhh I was thinking the same thing last night! That would be an amazing ABC half hour sitcom.