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Old 05-24-2010, 08:02 AM   #581
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Liked it a lot.

Poor Jack. Him dying like that made me sad.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:24 AM   #582
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Lack of attention paid, it's that simple.

What's hilarious is that the LA Times put out a review saying that they were dead all along. Last time I checked it was rated 1/5 by the readers and there was a flood of comments telling the stupid cow who wrote the article the... obvious.
its not lack of attention paid, its just another theory.

During an interview with Matthew Fox last night, Jimmy kimmel showed a clip of the initial flight and the point when the turbulance began- he then hypothesized to Matthew Fox "I think that is when you died and everything after that was your redemption after death." Matthew Fox reponded saying that could be one possible interpretation.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:28 AM   #583
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Any finale that makes its fans ask so many questions HAS to be a goodie. Do I know exactly what happened? No. But now I can watch the whole thing again in the fall and try to figure it out for myself!

An amazing show that will be greatly missed.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:05 AM   #584
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I am in the "Island life was real, Sideways was a happy purgatory" camp.

The island was essential for all life, and in the AR it was destroyed. Mathew Fox's interpretation on JKL said as much. I also don't think the AR was constructed by the Losties, or Hurley. It is just a phase for everyone passing from life to whatever comes after. The church is what was a construct made by the Losties. Kate explained to Jack why they were going there.

I imagine Ben wasn't ready to let go until he had comes to terms with Alex. Desmond said that Ana Lucia wasn't ready yet.

I was really pissed when Jack's eyes closed last night, but I am loving this ending more and more. Yes there are a lot of questions about the mechanics that will never be answered, but also knew that Lost was never the type of show that was going to gift wrap an all emcompassing explanation. For example: I really wanted to know how MIB became trapped in the cabin, and how he started to fool everyone (Ben, The Others) that he was actually Jacob.

Fantastic show.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:21 AM   #585
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its not lack of attention paid, its just another theory.

During an interview with Matthew Fox last night, Jimmy kimmel showed a clip of the initial flight and the point when the turbulance began- he then hypothesized to Matthew Fox "I think that is when you died and everything after that was your redemption after death." Matthew Fox reponded saying that could be one possible interpretation.
Kimmel said that is was flight from Season 6 Ep1, not the initial flight. In the original, Jack was comforting Rose, in that clip, it was the other way around. Since that flight happened in the Sideways universe, it could be where he died in real life.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:40 AM   #586
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Rose's line "you can let go now" sent tingles up my spine.

I had such low expectations coming in with no idea how they'd wrap it up, but man I freaking loved that ending.

Favourite scenes from the finale (more to prob. add on once I re-watch it)

The Flocke/Jack fight scene very ala the Matrix. Just cutting to commercial break as Jack leaps into the air.

The smile on Hugo's face when he see's Charlie. That almost brought some water works. But the Claire/Charlie stuff got the tears flowing a little bit. Always been such a big fan of them.

The Ben and Locke scene at the end. Two amazing actors and characters, with so much back story. Beautiful

I loved the message of the Lost finale and it really got to me actually. That no matter what religion or way of life you come from, no matter what kind've mistakes you've made in your past, you can always redeem yourself. The ending and the finale touched on subjects in such a way, i don't think we'll ever see done from another series again.

The finale was so daunting of a task to produce a good episode, that it could literally affect how people re-watched the series and anyone who decided to get into the show after it had ended. But now I can re-watch every season with no regrets and a smile on my face. There's still a ton that can be talked about, the mythology can be debated for years and years to come. I will look forward to the interviews will see when Darlton come back and talk about Lost down the road.
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Lost's problem was that it was always too ambitious. It was never going to satisfy everyone. I myself was not very receptive to the ending at first, but after reading more and more about it I think I am quite satisfied with how it concluded.

The ending scene with Jack closing his eye was to me an absolutely beautiful moment.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:46 AM   #588
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Lack of attention paid, it's that simple.

What's hilarious is that the LA Times put out a review saying that they were dead all along. Last time I checked it was rated 1/5 by the readers and there was a flood of comments telling the stupid cow who wrote the article the... obvious.
The producers of ABC put plane wreckage of the Ocieanic flight during the end credits that seemed to have been displayed in some cases, and not in others. It resulted in a lot of confusion, I think. They should have left it with the eye closing as the final scene, instead of the wreckage card or whatever that was, especially when the Ajira plane just flew overhead.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:47 AM   #589
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i really liked everything, but thought it the ending reminded me of the 'go to the west' ending in LOTR, because they all accomplished something so special in life, they get special treatment when dying.
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Lost's problem was that it was always too ambitious. It was never going to satisfy everyone. I myself was not very receptive to the ending at first, but after reading more and more about it I think I am quite satisfied with how it concluded.

The ending scene with Jack closing his eye was to me an absolutely beautiful moment.
Agreed. Going back and forth from Jack in "limbo" to Jack on the Island was very moving. We all knew he was dying and it was a perfect way to conclude the show.
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After a night of thinking about it.

From the perspective of production, acting, cinematography, I really liked it.

From the perspective of getting satisfaction, any kind of summary answers, logical conclusion of story lines, it really didn't float my boat.

From the standpoint of antagonist vs protagonist resolution, I thought it was way to formulaic. I would give it a 5/10 on the Captain scale which when you compare that to television today not bad.

It just didn't carry through for me.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:51 AM   #592
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Agreed. Going back and forth from Jack in "limbo" to Jack on the Island was very moving. We all knew he was dying and it was a perfect way to conclude the show.
What I was hoping in the end when he woke up in the river after being in the cave, which was a lot like where the man in blacks body was found that we'd see black smoke roaring out of the cave, and we'd hear hurley's voice in the distance exclaiming.

"Dude we're f'd"

And then Jack's voice saying . . . "Don't call me dude"

I kid.
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And apparently the actor that portrayed Mr. Eko was offered a guest spot in the final scene but demand 5x the amount they were willing to pay, and he turned it down . . .
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And apparently the actor that portrayed Mr. Eko was offered a guest spot in the final scene but demand 5x the amount they were willing to pay, and he turned it down . . .
Sounds like not many people on the cast had anything good to say about him, and he sounds like a total .

That all being said, was there a more tailored made ending for a character like Eko, then tonight? I can see why Darlton said they had big plans for the character and had him sticking around for a while.
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What I was hoping in the end when he woke up in the river after being in the cave, which was a lot like where the man in blacks body was found that we'd see black smoke roaring out of the cave, and we'd hear hurley's voice in the distance exclaiming.

"Dude we're f'd"

And then Jack's voice saying . . . "Don't call me dude"

I kid.
I was tyring to figure out what the heck was going to happen. Here are some thing s that ran through my mind...

1. Locke was somehow going to go from 'limbo land' back to the Island and retake his body after Jack successfully heals him. They connect somehow in limbo to make all good on the island.

2. Ben was sticking around with Hurley and Jack and I was waiting for him to do something evil. I thought we'd see Hurley and Ben be the new Jacob and smoke monster. I was expecting Ben to push Hurley or Jack into the hole of light instead of them going down there willingly. I thought something else would have come of Ben.

3. They were all going to escape the island as it was reduced to rubble. They would somehow meet up with their 'limbo' counterparts and all become better (alive) people becuase of their experience.

I was really out to lunch!
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Its almost as if the writers are asking the viewers to do what Desmond was trying to get the characters to do; let go.

For six seasons we have been amazed and infuriated with the cliffhangers and questions that arose from the show. While they did answer a number of the questions many more are left unanswered.

It seems they are asking the viewers to see that it is pointless to try and understand everything that goes on in this world. Or more pointedly, it is silly to try and put together everything that happened on the island. It is impossible to know everything. What is important is how we form relationships, and grow within those relationships. Also how we function in this crazy world that we live in. That is what is important.

It goes back to the original confrontation between Jack and Locke. Jack is a man of science, Locke is a man of Faith.

Some probably feel it is a huge cop-out of a finale and part of me agrees, I still have tons of questions.

But part of me thinks that it is a great way to end such a mysterious and at times messy series. I supposed they could have wrapped it up in one nice and neat little package and we would have said "Ohhh I get it, cool" and thats it. Instead it still leaves us thinking and wondering. Different people are interpreting it in different ways and there is nothing wrong with that. People will probably still talk about the series years down the road, if for nothing else that means it was a success.
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So many thoughts, so many people saying different things. I've had some time to think about it and the more I do, the more I think Kimmel was on to something. I personally think the whole series was about jack and everyone basically died in the initial crash. Go back and watch the first episode. Jack dies in the final episode where he woke up in the first. The exact same spot. The shoe in the tree, everything is the same.

Personally I believe that the entire show was about Jack and him being able to move on and the others didn't matter at all. They were simply people he saw as he boarded/flew on the plane. Everything on the island was his purgatory.
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So many thoughts, so many people saying different things. I've had some time to think about it and the more I do, the more I think Kimmel was on to something. I personally think the whole series was about jack and everyone basically died in the initial crash. Go back and watch the first episode. Jack dies in the final episode where he woke up in the first. The exact same spot. The shoe in the tree, everything is the same.

Personally I believe that the entire show was about Jack and him being able to move on and the others didn't matter at all. They were simply people he saw as he boarded/flew on the plane. Everything on the island was his purgatory.
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How so? You want to explain it then?

We all have our theories, but it would be nice to see more than a one liner...

Very important in the economy of the finale is watching the pilot again. When Jack goes out on the beach, he turns his head to the right and there is perfect silence and a perfect untouched sand and water. Then he turns his head to the left, and we do not see what is it that he sees. And then he makes a few steps and reality kind of “blurs” and he is all of the sudden in the middle of an inferno – the plane crash – noises, people crying, engine etc. There’s NO WAY someone could have “missed” all that and watched first to the right. he is practically “recreating” a reality.
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Well, I think I enjoyed it.

Good show, good run, there was some great ones, good ones, bad ones... Overall I enjoyed it. Pretty content with the belief that flash-sideways was happy dead place, and all the other stuff was real. A lot left out though. Like Captain it would have been nice to clean up all the stuff they gave us to think about.

I remember watching the first episode on my computer. No idea where I found it. Almost 7 years ago. Downloaded it, watched it, streamed it through my xbox and watched it again. Thought "this looks pretty good." Wow, 7 years...

I think after some shows wrap up 24, Dexter, Braking Bad I'm going to not bother with TV anymore...

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