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Old 05-04-2010, 04:59 PM   #141
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1 quadrant (likely the 2nd smallest) 10 days 3500 bucks.

The Cities estimate of $180,000 (annually) during a project in it's infantsy is hard to beleive and "low balling" in their favour.....gee! surprise!!

Do the math, it's more like upwards of a half million annually, if not more.

without actuall $ figures from an audit, this is a moot discussion, Having said that, there are a lot of people in this town that don't return refundables and are likely tossing them into their blue bins along with soup cans etc.

Bottom line, even if the City was pulling in 1.5 Million via the blue bin, we'd never hear about it.
Even at half a milliom the cost reduction you could potentially see (Assuming the city didn't take any of this into account, which the article says they did), is still only 42 cents. And that's assuming the 100 000 bins is correct, which with a little googling I found out isn't correct at all.
There are actually more like 320 000.

So with your half a million estimate, and the actual number of bins at 320 000, we're still in the range of 13 cents/month reduction.

Bottom line, even if the city were pulling in $1.5 million, it wouldn't make an appreciable dent in the cost of the program.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:15 PM   #142
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Bottom line, even if the city were pulling in $1.5 million, it wouldn't make an appreciable dent in the cost of the program.

I'll trust your equations.

Amazing how expensive it is to live in this City. I guess mis-management will do that.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:09 PM   #143
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Amazing how expensive it is to live in this City.
Move to Victoria...
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:13 PM   #144
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Move to Victoria...

I've been there and seen the tampons washing ashore. Thanks, But no.
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I've been there and seen the tampons washing ashore. Thanks, But no.
I'm talking about the cost of living...
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:25 PM   #146
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Anyone seen this yet? A couple which look to be around 60ish are caught on tape dumping their garbage at North Glenmore Park. What a couple of old pigs. To me, litter bugs rank right up there with child molesters. Glad they got caught. If you recognize them, give 'em a hard time because a $750 fine isn't enough.

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/colum.../13814301.html
Wow. I spent half a day volunteering to pick up litter on Saturday and that's a stupid thing to say.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:26 PM   #147
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I'm talking about the cost of living...
So was he...
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Wow. I spent half a day volunteering to pick up litter on Saturday and that's a stupid thing to say.
Don't lie this was community service from burning cars in 2006.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:34 PM   #149
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Wow. I spent half a day volunteering to pick up litter on Saturday and that's a stupid thing to say.

Please. We've already covered that.

Why does every god damn thread now need to be half full of off topic remarks like this?
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Please. We've already covered that.

Why does every god damn thread now need to be half full of off topic remarks like this?
Because it is the World Wide Web.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:52 PM   #151
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I'm talking about the cost of living...

I'm talking about sacrificing an inflated cost of living vs walking amongst Tampons!!
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:44 PM   #152
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wait, let's get back to that child molester comparison. That seemed out of bounds, did you really have to go there?
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wait, let's get back to that child molester comparison. That seemed out of bounds, did you really have to go there?
Yes, he did.

Litter bug is too tame a word for these human stains, I will now refer to them as Earth Molesters. Putting trash in bags in a park -- which sucks but can easily be cleaned up -- is exactly like ruining a child.

Two counts of Earth Molestion - guilty!
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If they got rid of the refund, More containers would end up in the landfills.

It's sad, but the incentive is still a necessity.
I disagree on that point, but it is contingent on having a universal, mandatory, and convenient recycling program. In the city I live in every house gets two wheely bins, one for recycling, one for garbage, rather than it being some optional program. There's no reason to huck your empty beer bottles in the garbage bin sitting right next to the recycling bin, so there's no reason to have a refundable bottle. But the convenience factor is key, recycling is picked up same bat-time by the same bat-truck as the garbage, there's no optional fees, and you're getting a recycling bin whether you want one or not. I'm not talking about some idea here, I'm talking about real-world practice that has been implemented for years and actually works.
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Dumping Couple will "Likely" be charged Today.

I hope they follow through with a stiff fine and not some lame warning.

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alber.../13834276.html
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Yes, he did.

Litter bug is too tame a word for these human stains, I will now refer to them as Earth Molesters. Putting trash in bags in a park -- which sucks but can easily be cleaned up -- is exactly like ruining a child.

Two counts of Earth Molestion - guilty!
I'm using that! I have friends that are Earth Molesters and I always bug them to pick up their junk.
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:44 PM   #157
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Love the comment on the Sun article

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The cheque Grandma sends me for $18 on my birthday will be dropped to $6 now that her old vagina got busted for throwing her garbage there.
Stay classy Sun readers!
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I disagree on that point, but it is contingent on having a universal, mandatory, and convenient recycling program. In the city I live in every house gets two wheely bins, one for recycling, one for garbage, rather than it being some optional program. There's no reason to huck your empty beer bottles in the garbage bin sitting right next to the recycling bin, so there's no reason to have a refundable bottle. But the convenience factor is key, recycling is picked up same bat-time by the same bat-truck as the garbage, there's no optional fees, and you're getting a recycling bin whether you want one or not. I'm not talking about some idea here, I'm talking about real-world practice that has been implemented for years and actually works.
We're really, really, really behind here. The Alberta gov't also patted themselves on the back when they put a deposit on milk containers the past year. Truly, the people in the gov't here are morons.
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So it turns out that this guy claims the site was approved for disposing of grass clippings and leaves last fall, and that's what he was dropping off.

yeah...he really deserves to be ranked right beside pedophiles on the scale of justice.

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"But I assumed that meant real garbage, not leaves and grass," said Walker.

"I wouldn't have left anything there, if I'd thought for a minute that it wasn't allowed."
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What a piece of work!!

The "Dumper" has come out! Apparently He called the Sun News Paper to explain his actions. He blames the City and even his neighbour!!

Not my fault! Not my fault!


....It really shows how screwed this City is, Now By-Law officers are going to have a "meeting" with City Officials before they "speak" with the Dumper???

Damn!, Ring the guys doorbell and hand him his fine for crying out loud!

Dumping-Defended!
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