Ontario judge orders website to reveal identity data on anonymous posters

[Pastiche]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not every person posting there is or even shares neo-nazi views.

Broad brush time.

By the fact that those types of views are rarely challenged or even addressed on that board is the sin of omission of which I am then able to freely use my broad brush.

I reiterate that site is a cess pool. But considering how you and I never see eye to eye on something how about you let me have the last word this time?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

That's rich coming from JustAnotherAnonymousGuy. Why do you not post under your real name?

God, no kidding, eh? Don't be a hypocrite JustAnotherGuy. Tell us who you are and have the mods change your username to your real name if you actually believe what you are saying.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

God, no kidding, eh? Don't be a hypocrite JustAnotherGuy. Tell us who you are and have the mods change your username to your real name if you actually believe what you are saying.

I do believe what I am saying. But like I said already. There are too many anonymous people on the internet who would screw with that information.

The visious cycle has been started and it can't be stopped.

[Shazam]

There are a few forums out there that require you to use your real name... Keeps the discourse quite civil, actually.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by valo403

There's actually a pretty high profile US case that resulted in individuals posting defamatory comments being named. It was pretty big news in the US legal community as it also had tied to law schools, which are pretty much as childish as most internet forums.

http://techliberation.com/2009/02/16...re-of-sec-230/

It's interesting to see how the US approach to these cases compares with the Canadian version.

It is also worth noting that there is nothing in Canada like s. 230 of the Communications Decency Act in the USA which protects the "provider" of an "interactive computer service" from liability for postings of another user. If the Freedominion case occurred in the USA the people who run the site couldn't - if my understanding of s. 230 is correct - be made defendants to that action. In exchange for that immunity, I think it makes some sense to lower the bar for the disclosure of subscriber information from the providers of interactive computer services. The American experience seems to focus the lawsuit on those that utter the allegedly defamatory words.

It's like Congress said to the website operators "Fine, we won't hold you accountable for what annonymous nozzles post on your website but if someone complains about those posts we are going to call on you to cooperate with the complainant to hold said nozzles accountable."

[transplant99]

By the fact that those types of views are rarely challenged or even addressed on that board is the sin of omission of which I am then able to freely use my broad brush.

If you say so.

But considering how you and I never see eye to eye on something how about you let me have the last word this time?

I would consider that censorship!!

[Vulcan]

With some of the nut cases, flim flam artists, predators and out right thieves lurking on the net, keeping some type of anonymity is a good thing.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

I do believe what I am saying. But like I said already. There are too many anonymous people on the internet who would screw with that information.

The visious cycle has been started and it can't be stopped.

Indeed. Your ability to hypocritically hide behind an anonymous username allows you to spread sanctimonious bullcrap without fear of reprisal, eh?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Indeed. Your ability to hypocritically hide behind an anonymous username allows you to spread sanctimonious bullcrap without fear of reprisal, eh?

Do you honestly not understand the point he's making? The basis for anonymity isn't always about a desire to hide a connection between yourself and your words, it's about hiding from people who talk about things like "reprisal".

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Indeed. Your ability to hypocritically hide behind an anonymous username allows you to spread sanctimonious bullcrap without fear of reprisal, eh?

Do you talk like this to people in real life?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Do you talk like this to people in real life?

Actually yes. He does.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Locke

Actually yes. He does.

So I guess he doesn't fear reprisal in real life either

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Shazam

So I guess he doesn't fear reprisal in real life either

Hes also a huge hit at parties.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by valo403

Do you honestly not understand the point he's making? The basis for anonymity isn't always about a desire to hide a connection between yourself and your words, it's about hiding from people who talk about things like "reprisal".

Same thing.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Locke

Hes also a huge hit at parties.

At least he doesn't take off early!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

At least he doesn't take off early!

Cry about it. I was there early and I had to work early. Besides, your Sens fan propaganda schtick was wearing thin.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Locke

Cry about it. I was there early and I had to work early. Besides, your Sens fan propaganda schtick was wearing thin.

Why would I cry about it unless they were tears of joy?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

I do believe what I am saying. But like I said already. There are too many anonymous people on the internet who would screw with that information.

The visious cycle has been started and it can't be stopped.

You do realize that, despite your anonymity, your real identity is still easy enough to track down by certain types of people, don't you?

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I can see a need in some cases for IP's to be revealed so criminals can be identified and victims see some sort of justice.

As long you as by victims you don't mean recording companies, and by you justice you don't mean lawsuits. I'd hate for this to open up the door for lawsuits regarding downloading.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You do realize that, despite your anonymity, your real identity is still easy enough to track down by certain types of people, don't you?

Yep. But not worth the effort for little ole me.