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OilKiller · 03-22-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I am so glad that Canada is protecting domestic corporations.

Think of the horror people!

Sarcasm or are you being serious?

There is a big difference between protecting Canadian companies and screwing the consumer. The various broadcasters in this country have free reign, can produce next to zero local content and continue to line their pockets at the expense of the consumer. Canadians have consistently been screwed when it comes to broadcasting.

This silly country won't even admit that XM and Sirius are the same company now to protect Canadian interests and keep two different companies afloat, while it's the same company in the US. It boggles the mind.

Joborule · 03-22-2010, 06:11 PM

Keep pushing CRTC. The more you keep messing with my TV instead of being more off limits on regulations, the more I'm just going to make my comp my TV.

F CRTC and all this save local TV bs.

ken0042 · 03-22-2010, 06:12 PM

Let's also keep the discussions about illegal methods of obtaining TV off the board.

Jawbone Hill · 03-22-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

Hockey?

I'm with you on this one. If it weren't for hockey I would get rid of cable tv in a heartbeat. Does anyone know if NHL Gamecentre blacks out local games like Centre Ice does? I imagine they could by using your IP address, but I wanted to know if anyone has it and could confirm that's the case.

Sidney Crosby's Hat · 03-22-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawbone Hill

I'm with you on this one. If it weren't for hockey I would get rid of cable tv in a heartbeat. Does anyone know if NHL Gamecentre blacks out local games like Centre Ice does? I imagine they could by using your IP address, but I wanted to know if anyone has it and could confirm that's the case.

They do. Some Canadian NHL teams are looking at streaming local market games on their websites though.

dissentowner · 03-22-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

Its been down for a couple years now, though, right? I thought that NAG3 thing hadn't been solved yet.

It has been solved for a while now.

Russic · 03-22-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ken0042

Let's also keep the discussions about illegal methods of obtaining TV off the board.

Silly question I suppose: is free to air considered illegal?

ken0042 · 03-23-2010, 05:58 AM

^^ Depends on exactly what you are talking about. If you are using FTA to grab the channels that are un-encrypted; that is 100% legal. However most of the time FTA is being discussed; the topic involves taking a receiver and programming it to decrypt signals that are being transmitted on a pay for use basis. (Bell, Dish Network)

And to clarify, if somebody feels the need in this thread to say "That's it- I'm going to look at FTA or a "grey market" American system; that is OK. But to talking about how you are going to go about doing it is something we don't want on here.

wpgflamesfan · 03-23-2010, 06:34 AM

n/m

Russic · 03-23-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ken0042

^^ Depends on exactly what you are talking about. If you are using FTA to grab the channels that are un-encrypted; that is 100% legal. However most of the time FTA is being discussed; the topic involves taking a receiver and programming it to decrypt signals that are being transmitted on a pay for use basis. (Bell, Dish Network)

And to clarify, if somebody feels the need in this thread to say "That's it- I'm going to look at FTA or a "grey market" American system; that is OK. But to talking about how you are going to go about doing it is something we don't want on here.

Ahhhhhh thank you. I've been trying to figure out the distinction for some time. I mentioned it to my brother in law and he replied "ya that's what I was doing a few months back" ... I was confused because what he was doing seemed very very wrong.

I've heard from a friend that once he called to cancel his cable they offered him basic for $9 month. I'd almost be tempted to give that a whirl. Wonder if these new fees would put an end to that kind of deal?

cKy · 03-23-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

It has been solved for a while now.

No it hasnt. when Nagra3 came out it killed almost every box out there. The only boxes that worked were IKS (Internet based ones) and even then, those went down months ago for the most part. A few of them work, but with all the lawsuits and Dishnet coming out and saying they are going for the home user instead of the dealers now, it would be stupid to do it.

There is still Free To Air, just not the cracked NAG3.

corporatejay · 03-23-2010, 09:55 AM

I think that all "blacking-out" U.S. programming will do is encourage people to obtain their programming using less than legal methods and will likely not have desired effect. Aside from news (which I don't watch, but I know others do) does anyone watch any local programming whatsoever?

anyonebutedmonton · 03-23-2010, 10:04 AM

I use my PVR over torrenting all my content on the basis of convenience. If they were to jack up the price any more than it is currently I will probably be interested in dropping my cable and investing in something like an apple TV, using torrents as a secondary alternative.

Other than sports, I could torrent absolutely everything I want to watch. Is there any sports only package through our current providers?

Swarly · 03-23-2010, 10:05 AM

Didn't Shaw just purchase a controlling interest in CanWest Communications? So they will be raising the cost to consumers to pay themselves?

ya, here is the link

This is the worst idea since the creation of the CRTC itself.

IntenseFan · 03-23-2010, 10:09 AM

I have looked at this reference to the Fed. Court of Appeal now in detail: http://www.digitalhome.ca/2010/03/cr...ions-annually/

In comparison, the mandatory $10 a month local TV tax that everyone was talking about before this CRTC decision would have actually been better for us consumers.

The way I understand how this is actually going to work is that local boradcasters will each have the power to hold out against cable companies for whatever price for US programming that they feek entitled to. I have a feeling this is going to add way more than $10 a month to the cable bill.

mikey_the_redneck · 03-23-2010, 10:21 AM

If this adds more to my already large satellite bill, I can see myself cancelling my HD channels in the off-season.....(summer).

F-U Bell TV!

IntenseFan · 03-23-2010, 10:28 AM

If they are going to do this then the CRTC has to throw us a bone and finally come down hard on the tied selling practices (read "bundles") of the cable companies.

The reason my bill is so high right now is that Shaw requires you to buy three teirs of SD channels before the two teirs of HD programming (the latter being the only thing I am interested in watching these last three years). Despite numerous complaints about this over the years the CRTC has never come down against it they way they can (and ought to).

I_H8_Crawford · 03-23-2010, 10:32 AM

I hate the CRTC - both in cellular and TV they bow to the big companies and bend over the Canadian consumers.

"Ooooohhh, that Wind Mobile is going to do something crazy like not charge customers $150 for nothing unlimited! They can't come here, can they CRTC???"

"Nope, don't worry Robelus, we will do everything in our power to stop them so you can continue to rape the Canadian consumers. After all, our job is to protect your insanely high profit margins!"

Now the same is happening to TV. I really really wish the next Federal Govenment can get the stones to abolish the ineffective CRTC completely. Time for a true free market. If Direct TV wants to come in let them. If CTV wants to show only American programming, great. Canadians want to complain? Make shows that are worth watching and you will get the chance.

GreenTeaFrapp · 03-23-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

I hate the CRTC - both in cellular and TV they bow to the big companies and bend over the Canadian consumers.

"Ooooohhh, that Wind Mobile is going to do something crazy like not charge customers $150 for nothing unlimited! They can't come here, can they CRTC???"

"Nope, don't worry Robelus, we will do everything in our power to stop them so you can continue to rape the Canadian consumers. After all, our job is to protect your insanely high profit margins!"

You example is completely wrong. The CRTC allowed Wind Mobile because they were looking to break up the wireless oligopoly in Canada.

Reaper · 03-23-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by I_H8_Crawford

I hate the CRTC - both in cellular and TV they bow to the big companies and bend over the Canadian consumers.

"Ooooohhh, that Wind Mobile is going to do something crazy like not charge customers $150 for nothing unlimited! They can't come here, can they CRTC???"

"Nope, don't worry Robelus, we will do everything in our power to stop them so you can continue to rape the Canadian consumers. After all, our job is to protect your insanely high profit margins!"

Now the same is happening to TV. I really really wish the next Federal Govenment can get the stones to abolish the ineffective CRTC completely. Time for a true free market. If Direct TV wants to come in let them. If CTV wants to show only American programming, great. Canadians want to complain? Make shows that are worth watching and you will get the chance.

I lol'ed.