Luongo wins the big game

[Johnny Canuck]

Originally Posted by Kaine

You are on a Flames message board, trolls or not they will garner far more support than your side will here. I think he had a good game, nothing beyond that as he didn't need to have a great game nor did he provide one. Speculation is the best anyone can do now.

I also suspect that most if not all teams that have played in a Stanley Cup final will argue about this so called "most pressure filled" game you speak of. It's up there, most is a stretch tho.

In terms of importance/viewership This was easily one of the biggest pressure filled games of all time. 80 percent of Canadians watched,(most watched of all time) as well as 27.6 million americans. (most views a hockey game in America has seen in 30 years)

Instead of just the hopes of a fanbase, these players were playing for the hope of a nation. If we had lost, there would have likely been another summit, and every player would have been picked apart and scrutinized. I'm not saying it was the most pressure filled game of all time (I think that applies to game 8 of the 72 summit series) but If that last game is not an example of an extremely high pressure game, I'm not sure what is. *Shrugs*

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Johnny Canuck

In terms of importance/viewership This was easily one of the biggest pressure filled games of all time. 80 percent of Canadians watched,(most watched of all time) as well as 27.6 million americans. (most views a hockey game in America has seen in 30 years)

Instead of just the hopes of a fanbase, these players were playing for the hope of a nation. If we had lost, there would have likely been another summit, and every player would have been picked apart and scrutinized. If that's not pressure, I'm not sure what is. *Shrugs*

The pressure the fans felt or projected to the players is irrelevant. What the players actually feel/felt is what matters and again I suspect every team to play in a SCF would have something to say.

Leafs have several times the fanbase the Flames do, doubt anyone would argue that they would have more pressure to win than any other team getting to a fina... Nah couldn't finish that with a strait face... Leafs in a final?

Anyways you get the idea. Nobody said it wasn't high pressure, but "most" as you said may be a stretch.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Kaine

From one extreme to another and all the trolls are out in force. Never ends.

Plan the parade route Vancouver, an elite goalie managed a win (something most good goaltenders provide from time to time). It's the Canucks posters that make it hard to cheer for or appreciate Luo's contribution, not the man himself. Guy did good (I won't say great as I don't believe goaltending dictated the outcome of this game) but it's getting harder and harder to say that with all the "he was lights out lulz" post.

Especially that damn Canuck's troll who started this thread.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Especially that damn Canuck's troll who started this thread.

Yeh what a terrible poster that one is!

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Gerry

Just like Fluery has his wins in the Stanley Cup.

That is the reason Fleury should have taken over for Brodeur, Fleury has a ring and Luongo does not. Fleury has shown he can win the big game and make crucial saves in the final minute of a deciding game to preserve a win and not have it go into OT. Game 7 of a SC final proves that.

[Gerry]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

That is the reason Fleury should have taken over for Brodeur, Fleury has a ring and Luongo does not. Fleury has shown he can win the big game and make crucial saves in the final minute of a deciding game to preserve a win and not have it go into OT. Game 7 of a SC final proves that.

Ah. I see. The bar is reset. Now you have to win the big game in regulation as a goalkeeper. OT is not good enough. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Flashpoint]

Honestly, I thought he was fighting the puck all game. Lots of rebounds. That sort of plays into the reputation he has for not being able to handle pressure. Some would even argue that Canada won in spite of Luongo (although I wouldn't). I think Luongo is a great goaltender, but most fans will acknowledge he had some problems in that game.

But he won. So at the end of the day - he did enough, and the team did enough to make it happen. Right before the OT goal Niedermeyer gave it away and Luongo stopped it. That was a huge save. So good enough. He's a winner, and he won at least one big game in his career.

You can't take it away from him.

[Infamous1]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

That is the reason Fleury should have taken over for Brodeur, Fleury has a ring and Luongo does not. Fleury has shown he can win the big game and make crucial saves in the final minute of a deciding game to preserve a win and not have it go into OT. Game 7 of a SC final proves that.

How come your posts are always in a different font? Also, how come all your posts are to make everyone believe that Luongo sucks?

[Infamous1]

Luongo is probably the most positionally sound goalie in the game and with him being huge, he makes saves look easy. He doesn't have all these acrobat Kiprusoff type saves that would get him more accolades because he doesn't need to. Oh well I'm glad he was "average" and we won.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Infamous1

Luongo is probably the most positionally sound goalie in the game and with him being huge, he makes saves look easy. He doesn't have all these acrobat Kiprusoff type saves that would get him more accolades because he doesn't need to. Oh well I'm glad he was "average" and we won.

Which style takes more skill....? I think you know which.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by opendoor

He already did it in 06-07. Vancouver got shut out 3 times yet they still won the series.

Ya that's back when he was LUONGO. That Luongo is the reason why I picked him as the best goalie in the world this past summer. I haven't seen that goalie this year, he just doesn't look the same as he once did. I'm not saying he's past his prime or anything, as he's still young enough. But I've definitely seen him alot more dominant than he's looked this year.

That Dallas/Vancouver series was ridiculous. I've never seen a team get so outplayed and still win a series. I watched that whole series and I'd say out of all 7 games, there were maybe two periods where Vancouver looked like the better team(one being 3rd period game 7, when the Nucks had about 100 PP's). Take Luongo off that team and that's possibly a sweep.

I was actually excited when I found out Luongo would be taking over for Brodeur. I was just a little disappointed with the results, he didn't look near as solid as I thought he would. He did end up with a gold medal though, so I'll give him credit there. He did enough to win.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Which style takes more skill....? I think you know which.

which style kept more pucks out of the net against the US....? I think you know which.

[Blaster86]

Championships that Miikka Kipprusoff has won while being the starting Goaltender: ...

Championships that Roberto Luongo has won while being the starting Goaltender: Olympic Gold Medal
World Championship x2

Who can't win the big game, again?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

which style kept more pucks out of the net against the US....? I think you know which.

His lack of rebound control, which is famous, allowed the US to tie it with mere seconds to go.

The more I look at the tying goal, the more i hate it...that rebound was could cost this country the gold...Luongo almost blew it. Brutal

[silentsim]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

The more I look at the tying goal, the more i hate it...that rebound was could cost this country the gold...Luongo almost blew it. Brutal

But he didn't, and made 34 (or 36?) other saves that helped us win gold.

He played a solid game.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

His lack of rebound control, which is famous, allowed the US to tie it with mere seconds to go.

The more I look at the tying goal, the more i hate it...that rebound was could cost this country the gold...Luongo almost blew it. Brutal

...and if you look at Fleury's performance in last year's playoffs, it was anything but stellar. In fact Pens fans were going as far as to say they won the cup in spite of his sub par goaltending.

Yet, at the end of the day, he gets the title of being a Stanley Cup winning goalie, and fans (even in the last few posts here) will forever say that he proved he can win the big game.

Those two goals were overblown imo. That first goal that got tipped right in front of the net? If that was Kipper, most Flames fans would have said "oooh that was weak", then saw the replay of the tip and went "Nevermind, it was tipped right in front, you can't fault him for that".

Then the second one, Kane turned around and shot it through a crowd, it hit Langenbrunner's skate, then hit Luongo (it seriously could have easily found it's way through just from the deflection, but Luongo kicked it out), then came out to Parise, and both Neidermyer AND Weber had left Parise all alone in front. So it was an easy goal for Parise.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

His lack of rebound control, which is famous, allowed the US to tie it with mere seconds to go.

The more I look at the tying goal, the more i hate it...that rebound was could cost this country the gold...Luongo almost blew it. Brutal

Yeah... it could be that Luongo let out a rebound on a deflected shot through 4 guys that was 6 inches off the ice. That or the fact that two Americans were left completely unchecked right in front of the net with 25 seconds to go while the Canadian defense were busy trying to be shot blockers.

Seriously, you look at this:



and see it as a goaltending issue? I guess it depends who was in net. If that was Finland with Kiprusoff in net I'm sure we'd be hearing how he was hung out to dry.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Those two goals were overblown imo. That first goal that got tipped right in front of the net? If that was Kipper, most Flames fans would have said "oooh that was weak", then saw the replay of the tip and went "Nevermind, it was tipped right in front, you can't fault him for that".

You're right it was tipped, but it went through him, the tip was minimal, he was in position and puck snuck between his body and his arm...so he could of saved it....he did everything right to stop that, except he let it sneak through him, so i am on the fence with that one.

Originally Posted by flameswin

Then the second one, Kane turned around and shot it through a crowd, it hit Langenbrunner's skate, then hit Luongo (it seriously could have easily found it's way through just from the deflection, but Luongo kicked it out), then came out to Parise, and both Neidermyer AND Weber had left Parise all alone in front. So it was an easy goal for Parise.

That is why i don't like it, he kicked out a rebound to the opposition when they were behind his defense, he needs to be more aware on that play.


I am not calling any of the goals weak. But i am also not going to say that he had no chance, or he didn't make his own bed.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Yeah... it could be that Luongo let out a rebound on a deflected shot through 4 guys that was 6 inches off the ice. That or the fact that two Americans were left completely unchecked right in front of the net with 25 seconds to go while the Canadian defense were busy trying to be shot blockers.

Seriously, you look at this:



and see it as a goaltending issue? I guess it depends who was in net. If that was Finland with Kiprusoff in net I'm sure we'd be hearing how he was hung out to dry.

Like i said, he kicked a rebound out to when two opposition players were behind his D...he could of been a little more aware.

[MelBridgeman]

Anyways we won! Luongo was a part of that! Let's be happy until March 14th.