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[Resolute 14]

And Bauer is out... Disappointing. But, good chance the Chinese can sweep the podium in the Aerials finals.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Infamous1

Let me guess, we'd win more medals if the games were in......wait for it....Calgary.

Or, you know, you could have just ignored his post...

[Papi34]

Looks like Vonn will get bronze

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

12.

She's 7th right now with 10 skiiers left.

Damn. She finished 15th. A shame after such a promising 1st jump.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Infamous1

Let me guess, we'd win more medals if the games were in......wait for it....Calgary.

Absolutely. Everything is better in Calgary.

[Jesse834]

I heard that one of the women curlers is 5 months pregnant? Anybody know who? I can't imagine how she can still play.

[Papi34]

Remaining Events

Mens 30K Pursuit 2:30pm- Canada Hopefuls - Ivan Babakov, Alex Harvey, Devin Kershaw, George Grey

Mens Speedskating 1500m 5:15pm - Canada Hopefuls - Kyle Parrott, Mathiew Giroux, Denny Morrison, Lucas Makowsky

Ladies Short track 1500m Heats 6:45, Semis 8:00, Finals 8:50 - Canada Hopefuls - Kalyna Roberge, Tania Vincent, Valerie Maltais

Mens Short track 1000m Quarters 7:25, Semis 8:30, Finals 9:05 - Canada Hopefuls - Charles Hamelin, Francois Hamelin

[Infamous1]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Or, you know, you could have just ignored his post...

or you could have ignored mine.....

[RatherDashing]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yes and no.

There have been a lot of events where Canadians should have been a threat to medal and didn't get it done. It's one thing to lay down a great performance and still get beat by someone better. It's another thing to not perform on the biggest stage...and we've had a number of athletes that fall into that latter category.

Fair enough, but we've also had a number of athletes who were ranked fairly low and did step up (Men's Biathlon, Men's and Women's short track speed skating). On the whole, I think our athletes are doing pretty well.

[GirlySports]

Do all ski jumping events have part of the score being style points? Seems to me who ever goes the farthest should win...

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Is that a real statistic?

The number of NHL players on the rosters of the 6 teams generally considered to be medal contenders in Men's Hockey (23 man rosters):

• Canada - 23
• USA - 23
• Sweden - 19
• Finland - 18
• Czech Republic - 16
• Russia - 14

Based on that, 82% of the players on the 6 top teams are current NHL players.

However, there are also players like Forsberg and Jagr, who have played a significant amount of time in North America. If you include all players who have played at least 1 full season in North America at any level (junior, minor pro, or the NHL), the percentage moves to 95% (only 4 Czechs and 3 Russians have not played any significant time in North America).

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Jesse834

I heard that one of the women curlers is 5 months pregnant? Anybody know who? I can't imagine how she can still play.

With the incredible physical excursion required, and the importance of having a low BMI in the sport, I concur.

I've heard she will be unable to participate is the Red Deer county regional darts tournament because of her depleted condition.

[Bertuzzied]

Plushenko was just on with James Duthie. He must be the coolest russian guy in the world. Very entertaining. and for sure he got robbed of the Gold.

No quad in mens figure skating means no gold.

Best quote of the games so far from Elvis Stojko.

A word, too, from Canada's Elvis Stojko, three-time world champion and twice silver at the Olympics, in a column posted Friday for Yahoo! Sports: "In what other sport do you have to hold back in order to win?''
That column was headlined "The Night They Killed Figure Skating.''

[GirlySports]

I like the scoring system in figure skating and they just have to tweak it a bit.
Instead of giving 10 points for a successful quad, give 15!

no way a quad should be equal to a triple-triple combo

[Regulator75]

It's been a wild finish to the Norway - Swiss Hockey game.

4-4 and about to go into OT.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

A word, too, from Canada's Elvis Stojko, three-time world champion and twice silver at the Olympics, in a column posted Friday for Yahoo! Sports: "In what other sport do you have to hold back in order to win?''
That column was headlined "The Night They Killed Figure Skating.''

All right time to come out some more than I already have. I have about 20 years of a figure skating background to draw on--obviously not at Oly level, but still, someone has to carry the skates .

That was Elvis just defending his own lack of artistry. He still just doesn't get it.

The short is all about technical merit, whereas the long program is about 55 jumps 45% artistry. Hell Plushenko on his best day can't skate(not jump) as well as half the field - he doesn't even have the edgework that a kid like Patrick Chan has. The "artistry" that Plushenko has is standing in spots and shaking his ass or waving his arms--this is a cheap way of resting. Boitano used to do the same with his ice-length spread eagles, but I digress.

The quad is nice to have, but when Plushenko screws up his Axel (which he lost points on), and loses GOE on his Lutz combination because, well quite frankly, it was rough as hell, he loses. If he jumps those clean, he wins, so he really can't whine since the guy who skated the absolute clean program won.

What scares me is last night's ice dancing result. The Russians were skating on their toes and weren't skating close together, but to be placed in first over the Canadians, who were magnificent, was a sham. The Russians will be given the gold as a conciliatory for the men's results.

Going back to Elvis, as proud and fierce of a Canadian I am, I never wanted him to win gold because of his terrible leg position and cheap edges. He just didn't have gold-medal quality figure skating. Yes he was great in the air, but he had another 3.5 minutes to fill. Guys like Lyascek, Chan, Lambiel et al, all can fill those with good content, while the pure jumpers are quite frankly empty. If they want to make it about jumps, have a freestyle skating event with a jump off.

This is why Kurt Browning is still my hero, the guy could jump and his filler was the best ever, he had both and you need both.

[GirlySports]

Two Canadians 6th and 7th at the 22.5km mark of the 30km cross-country pursuit

I can't find it on any of the channels though

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I like the scoring system in figure skating and they just have to tweak it a bit.
Instead of giving 10 points for a successful quad, give 15!

no way a quad should be equal to a triple-triple combo

It seems like a lot of Lysacek's high scores were the result of the fact that he had elements throughout the program, whereas Plushenko had a lot in the first minute, and then few afterwards. If that's the way the scoring is going to work, then the onus is on skaters and choreographers to put strong elements throughout their program and not front-load it. It's a relatively new system, and it's an imperfect system, but as Manley said, Lysacek's program had a very good gameplan to maximize his scores.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by octothorp

It seems like a lot of Lysacek's high scores were the result of the fact that he had elements throughout the program, whereas Plushenko had a lot in the first minute, and then few afterwards. If that's the way the scoring is going to work, then the onus is on skaters and choreographers to put strong elements throughout their program and not front-load it. It's a relatively new system, and it's an imperfect system, but as Manley said, Lysacek's program had a very good gameplan to maximize his scores.

Yes, Lysacek also got bonus points for difficult jumps in the 2nd half of the program.

I really like this points system. Beats the old 5.9 from the stoopid Russian judge system.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

All right time to come out some more than I already have. I have about 20 years of a figure skating background to draw on--obviously not at Oly level, but still, someone has to carry the skates .

That was Elvis just defending his own lack of artistry. He still just doesn't get it.

The short is all about technical merit, whereas the long program is about 55 jumps 45% artistry. Hell Plushenko on his best day can't skate(not jump) as well as half the field - he doesn't even have the edgework that a kid like Patrick Chan has. The "artistry" that Plushenko has is standing in spots and shaking his ass or waving his arms--this is a cheap way of resting. Boitano used to do the same with his ice-length spread eagles, but I digress.

The quad is nice to have, but when Plushenko screws up his Axel (which he lost points on), and loses GOE on his Lutz combination because, well quite frankly, it was rough as hell, he loses. If he jumps those clean, he wins, so he really can't whine since the guy who skated the absolute clean program won.

What scares me is last night's ice dancing result. The Russians were skating on their toes and weren't skating close together, but to be placed in first over the Canadians, who were magnificent, was a sham. The Russians will be given the gold as a conciliatory for the men's results.

Going back to Elvis, as proud and fierce of a Canadian I am, I never wanted him to win gold because of his terrible leg position and cheap edges. He just didn't have gold-medal quality figure skating. Yes he was great in the air, but he had another 3.5 minutes to fill. Guys like Lyascek, Chan, Lambiel et al, all can fill those with good content, while the pure jumpers are quite frankly empty. If they want to make it about jumps, have a freestyle skating event with a jump off.

This is why Kurt Browning is still my hero, the guy could jump and his filler was the best ever, he had both and you need both.

Great analysis, and I applaud you 'coming out' about your figure-skating past.