LOST sixth and final season

[Gozer]

Yeesh. An observation, not a condemnation.

Am I wrong?
I'm asking because I actually don't know the answer.

If there is a character development that I don't grasp (and surely there is) and it explains their trepidation - then why did she tell him "he was only trying to help" at the end, but no one did before?
If you guys accept it then a "no dude, it fits" is fine, no need to envelop me in terrible analogy monsters.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Gozer

Yeesh. An observation, not a condemnation.

Am I wrong?
I'm asking because I actually don't know the answer.

If there is a character development that I don't grasp (and surely there is) and it explains their trepidation - then why did she tell him "he was only trying to help" at the end, but no one did before?
If you guys accept it then a "no dude, it fits" is fine, no need to envelop me in terrible analogy monsters.

Of course there is. This show has been on for 5 years. Past, present and future events makes it fit within the established rules of the story.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Radically Red

Ben sent them all to the temple back when Widmore's army showed up to take him. We havent seen them since then until now.

ya I think thats it as well

and that fireworks thing they set off was a warning to Richard that either Jacob had died or something bad had happened

[Finny61]

It sucked to see Richard get beat up and dragged away, I always thought of Richard as the big cheese on the island and looks like he got put into his place in the grand scheme of things.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Gozer

Yeesh. An observation, not a condemnation.

Am I wrong?
I'm asking because I actually don't know the answer.

If there is a character development that I don't grasp (and surely there is) and it explains their trepidation - then why did she tell him "he was only trying to help" at the end, but no one did before?
If you guys accept it then a "no dude, it fits" is fine, no need to envelop me in terrible analogy monsters.

I think Sawyer has probably wanted to kill Jack about 1000 times.

[HonkyTonkMan]

Can someone explain how Jacob's nemesis was able to assume the image of Dr. Christian Sheppard, when his body was not even on the original Oceanic flight that crashed? The storyline so far suggests that the nemesis (and maybe Jacob) can assume the likeness of dead people on the island. But if Dr. Sheppard's body was never on the island, how could it be mimicked?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkMan

Can someone explain how Jacob's nemesis was able to assume the image of Dr. Christian Sheppard, when his body was not even on the original Oceanic flight that crashed? The storyline so far suggests that the nemesis (and maybe Jacob) can assume the likeness of dead people on the island. But if Dr. Sheppard's body was never on the island, how could it be mimicked?

His body was being transported back to LA on the original flight.

[calgarybornnraised]

so where is fake lockes home? thats my big question after last night.im thinking its off the island.

[HonkyTonkMan]

Originally Posted by nik-

His body was being transported back to LA on the original flight.

Was it? According to the episode last night, his body was not on the plane and did not arrive in LAX. I thought the whole premise of the alternate reality was what would happen if the plane did not crash and they made it to LA. There must be some significance to it, otherwise it would not have been revealed in the episode. So confusing...

[Flaming Choy]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkMan

Was it? According to the episode last night, his body was not on the plane and did not arrive in LAX. I thought the whole premise of the alternate reality was what would happen if the plane did not crash and they made it to LA. There must be some significance to it, otherwise it would not have been revealed in the episode. So confusing...

The point of last night's episode was to show that the effects of the bomb going off wasn't just that the plane didn't crash, but changed many other stuff. The missing body was just 1 little change. Others are:
- Desmond being on the plane
- Boone's sister not on the plane
- Stewardess give Jack 1 bottle of booze instead of 2
- Jack being comforted by Rose instead of the other way around.
- Hugo saying he's the luckiest person in the world instead of him feeling unlucky...ect

At least that's my thoughts. They seem to be going with alternate realities as their plot device this year (instead of flashbacks/flashforward/time travel). Don't know if these 2 realities will be related at some point or be 2 separate events.

[DOK]

Michael and his son weren't on the episode at all either. The writers said last night, "Michael not being there was fate". Read into that what you want.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Flaming Choy

The point of last night's episode was to show that the effects of the bomb going off wasn't just that the plane didn't crash, but changed many other stuff. The missing body was just 1 little change. Others are:
- Desmond being on the plane
- Boone's sister not on the plane
- Stewardess give Jack 1 bottle of booze instead of 2
- Jack being comforted by Rose instead of the other way around.
- Hugo saying he's the luckiest person in the world instead of him feeling unlucky...ect

At least that's my thoughts. They seem to be going with alternate realities as their plot device this year (instead of flashbacks/flashforward/time travel). Don't know if these 2 realities will be related at some point or be 2 separate events.

Charlie swallowed the heroin instead of flushing it.
Locke went on the walkabout.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Locke went on the walkabout.

I think Locke lied about the walkabout because Boone had no way of knowing he was bound to a wheelchair.

[gottabekd]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkMan

Can someone explain how Jacob's nemesis was able to assume the image of Dr. Christian Sheppard, when his body was not even on the original Oceanic flight that crashed? The storyline so far suggests that the nemesis (and maybe Jacob) can assume the likeness of dead people on the island. But if Dr. Sheppard's body was never on the island, how could it be mimicked?

I think the body being on the island is just a convenience. I'm pretty sure the smoke monster once assumed the shape of Walt, and for all we knew, Walt was alive and well off on his boat.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

going to put this in the Lost, Avatar, and Funny Picture thread as it's applicable in all three

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-conte...zz56e9625f.jpg

*might be NSFW, language

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

I think Locke lied about the walkabout because Boone had no way of knowing he was bound to a wheelchair.

He seemed to be very engaged in the scene where Jack met him in the lost baggage area. Locke from the episode entitled Walkabout, where he didn't get to go on the walkabout would have been sullen and depressed.

IMO anyways.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by gottabekd

I think the body being on the island is just a convenience. I'm pretty sure the smoke monster once assumed the shape of Walt, and for all we knew, Walt was alive and well off on his boat.

Plus they never found Christian's body anywhere on the island, just an empty coffin.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Barnes

He seemed to be very engaged in the scene where Jack met him in the lost baggage area. Locke from the episode Walkabout would have been sullen and depressed.

He was very sullen and depressed when getting off the plane after talking with Boone about the walkabout. He didn't want to look Jack in the eye.

I thought it was pretty clear he was lying about the walkabout. The thing that was different was that he lost his knives.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

He was very sullen and depressed when getting off the plane after talking with Boone about the walkabout. He didn't want to look Jack in the eye.

I thought it was pretty clear he was lying about the walkabout. The thing that was different was that he lost his knives.

I don't disagree. Let's just say I am 65% for, 45% against. I can guarantee that they did this on purpose and we will find out if he went on it or not this season though.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm guessing that we're seeing two different timelines.

In the one we see that the Island has sunkunder the ocean, that the main players made it to LAX with some exceptions (Christian) Boones sister etc and that some key items, the body, Locke's knives have vanished. I'm assuming that when Juliet hit the bomb it exploded and combined with the energy pocket to split realities.

In the second, the bomb failed to destroy the energy pocket so events didn't change and they are still on the Island. With Sayid's death, I'm almost convinced that Jacob has found a loop hole of his own and he's either all the way in or partially in Sayid. While its clear that Smoggy wants to leave the Island and go home, Jacob is there to keep him on the Island. In effect I think that the Island is suppossed to be like a prison to hold ultimate good and ultimate evil occupied and contained. I also go back to the religious symbols like the Anhk (sp?) and some of the gliefs on the walls and the large statue that are very egyptian in their content and wonder if these two represent Ra the sun god (Jacob) and Osirus god of the dead who has a stunning similarity to the statue.

I have a feeling that the two realities also at some point have to merge, perhaps if Jacob is able to defeate Smoggy he will grant freedom in gratitude, because I think its clear that their lives in the non Island reality might be easier, they are not good lives.