Road to South Africa World Cup 2010

[SebC]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's pretty ridiculous. They lost. It's over.

And now it's really over. REJECTED!

[valo403]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

TSN/SN showed every single game live......

Well surely that can be topped

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DJ_NAV

I really hope Holland does well... i know they are chokers so I will keep that in mind. Other than that, I hope Italy gets raped every game. Biggest cheaters alive!

*cough* Portugal *cough*

[GirlySports]

FIFA has determined the seeding for the draw

Portugal and France miss out.

Pot 1: South Africa, Argentina, Holland, England, Italy, Brazil, Spain, Germany

Pot 2: (CONCACAF/Asia): USA, Mexico, Honduras, South Korea, North Korea, Japan, Australia, New Zealand

Pot 3: (South American/Africa): Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Cote D' Ivoire. Algeria

Pot 4: (Europe): France, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia, Denmark, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia

[DJ_NAV]

excited!!! cannot wait for friday anymore!

[Addick]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

another problem for Canada, and to an extent the US

if a Canadian or American born player is world class, they are more likely to play for another country through their ancestry. Look at Hargreaves playing for England, or recently Guiseppe Rossi playing for Italy instead of the US.

I don't believe that this is a big of a problem as the CSA believes it to be and actually shows just how off the mark they are. Instead of figuring out ways to keep players like Hargreaves and Rossi on this side of the Atlantic, we should be finding ways to develop more Hargreaves and Rossi's. By letting these kids go over to Europe we are taking a load off of our development system as we can let the European clubs polish our players off, which they can do a lot better than we will be able to for the foreseeable future, and spend our time and money on getting more players to the level where European clubs are interested in taking them off of our hands. For the first generation or two we will risk losing those players to European national teams but after a while we will reach a critical mass and the players will realize that there are enough of them to field a competitive squad wearing the Canadian badge. However, all of this will take leadership and reform similar to the type that Australia has recently experienced.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Addick

I don't believe that this is a big of a problem as the CSA believes it to be and actually shows just how off the mark they are. Instead of figuring out ways to keep players like Hargreaves and Rossi on this side of the Atlantic, we should be finding ways to develop more Hargreaves and Rossi's. By letting these kids go over to Europe we are taking a load off of our development system as we can let the European clubs polish our players off, which they can do a lot better than we will be able to for the foreseeable future, and spend our time and money on getting more players to the level where European clubs are interested in taking them off of our hands. For the first generation or two we will risk losing those players to European national teams but after a while we will reach a critical mass and the players will realize that there are enough of them to field a competitive squad wearing the Canadian badge. However, all of this will take leadership and reform similar to the type that Australia has recently experienced.

Australia's success had a lot to do with top notch coaching from Guus Hiddink.

Canada needs a world class manager. The difference that can make can never be understated.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Locke

Australia's success had a lot to do with top notch coaching from Guus Hiddink.

Canada needs a world class manager. The difference that can make can never be understated.

Agreed. But Canada is too cheap to keep players or hire international coaches.

Or Canada needs to train native players that have no ties to any other country

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World Cup Draw tomorrow! This is like Christmas Eve.

[Addick]

Originally Posted by Locke

Australia's success had a lot to do with top notch coaching from Guus Hiddink.

Canada needs a world class manager. The difference that can make can never be understated.

While a good manager can extract more success from a team than usual, they are still limited by the maximum 'theoretical' capacity of the tools they have at their disposal. Being a supporter of Charlton Athletic I'm quite aware of this fact as we had a brilliant manager in Curbishly who elevated us to the status of a mid-table premiership club but eventually left as this is as far as we could go with our budget. The reason why I'm bring this is up is because I believe that with Australia Hiddink had better quality players than does Canada. Players like Kewell and Viduka may not be superstars but they are household names and they are supported by players like Cahill and Schwarzer, names that football fans will recognize and at least have heard once or twice before.

Nonetheless, quality leadership is needed at all levels in Canada and the MNT is no exception. Personally, I think before we go out and get World class managers we should get one that can take the time to start the time-consuming reform our system so badly needs. Then again, didn't Hiddink do this in South Korea? Maybe we need to steal him from the Ruskies!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Addick

While a good manager can extract more success from a team than usual, they are still limited by the maximum 'theoretical' capacity of the tools they have at their disposal. Being a supporter of Charlton Athletic I'm quite aware of this fact as we had a brilliant manager in Curbishly who elevated us to the status of a mid-table premiership club but eventually left as this is as far as we could go with our budget. The reason why I'm bring this is up is because I believe that with Australia Hiddink had better quality players than does Canada. Players like Kewell and Viduka may not be superstars but they are household names and they are supported by players like Cahill and Schwarzer, names that football fans will recognize and at least have heard once or twice before.

Nonetheless, quality leadership is needed at all levels in Canada and the MNT is no exception. Personally, I think before we go out and get World class managers we should get one that can take the time to start the time-consuming reform our system so badly needs. Then again, didn't Hiddink do this in South Korea? Maybe we need to steal him from the Ruskies!

Hiddink is a Bona Fide Architect of the game. And stealing him from the Ruskies isnt a bad idea, especially now since they didnt make the World Cup so his services may be available.

[kdogg]

I would think it would be time for Hiddink to get out of the international stuff, and go to a big club.

Just a guess.
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[You Need a Thneed]

The South Africa Group COULD end up being a REALLY weak group.

A lot of teams are hoping for neither France nor Portugal in their group.

[The Goon]

Any place to follow the draw live online? I am PVRing the show on CBC but I don't think I can wait until tonight!

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Any place to follow the draw live online? I am PVRing the show on CBC but I don't think I can wait until tonight!

http://www.fifa.com/live/competition...raw/index.html

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

A lot of teams are hoping for neither France nor Portugal in their group.

30, to be exact.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Any place to follow the draw live online? I am PVRing the show on CBC but I don't think I can wait until tonight!

How bout CBC live stream?

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/

[rubecube]

Well that was interesting. England got a pretty favourable draw in my opinion. Group D appears to be the "group of death." Portugal will be in tough against Brazil and Ivory Coast. Spain and Italy have cream puff groups.

[GirlySports]

The Draw is done.. are spoilers allowed or are people watching later?

[arloiginla]

Geez Germany got a tough group

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

Geez Germany got a tough group

Sehr gut!