St. Patrick's Bridge design entries

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Bunk

It's pretty integral to the East Village revitalization. Also connections across the Bow River are very poor in this area.

Which is unfortunate that this bridge doesn't go across Memorial as well. It might be too complicated, but wouldn't it be great to have a triple-pronged bridge, so it can be utilized not only by those wanting to get into the East Village/Zoo, but also back and forth from all those new condos in the Bridges.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Bunk

From what I understand that is just the working name. The selection of the name will happen later. Personally, I'd love to see the bridge named after former Mayor Jack Leslie. He was instrumental in stopping the CPR mainline and a major freeway from be located on the banks of the Bow River, preserving it for its current public recreational use. I think it would be fitting.



It's pretty integral to the East Village revitalization. Also connections across the Bow River are very poor in this area. I think the new bridge will really help unlock the potential of St. Patrick's Island, which is a sadly underutilized gem in the city. The East Village master plan shows some really, really interesting ideas for St. Patrick's Island - it could easily be just as good or even better than Prince's Island.

Table5 - I love the tags to the thread! ha ha.

Obviously, I've been smoking way too much crack. I thought this bridge was going to be traversing the Bow at the westernmost point of Prince's Island. Hence the crack about Druh Farrell.

I didn't even know that there was a St. Patrick's Island.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Which is unfortunate that this bridge doesn't go across Memorial as well. It might be too complicated, but wouldn't it be great to have a triple-pronged bridge, so it can be utilized not only by those wanting to get into the East Village/Zoo, but also back and forth from all those new condos in the Bridges.

The Bridges is a few blocks to the east. There is a bridge at the LRT station directly adjacent to the Bridges development. Presumably people would walk down 9th street from within the Bridges, cross memorial at the LRT bridge then head west on the pathway to cross the river at the new bridge. You'll notice that there is no pedestrian access on the north side of memorial, so there would really be no place for the St. Patrick's bridge to land.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I didn't even know that there was a St. Patrick's Island.

It's the leprechaun ghetto.

[JD]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I didn't even know that there was a St. Patrick's Island.

You probably know it better as St. George's Island, the one the zoo is on. For some reason the island has different names, depending on which part of it you find yourself on.

[Bunk]

The island should be one of Calgary's best known places. But it is unfortunately so badly underutilized and neglected. Being so close to downtown, like I said, it could be a great urban park much like Prince's Island. The building of this bridge, the revitalization of East Village/Bridgeland and a major renovation of the park space itself will hopefully unlock this gem from obscurity. The East Village Master Plan, which was recently released, has some interesting ideas like creating a beach and swimming area (I think by slowing the flow of the river to the north of the island), an amphitheatre and othe programming space.

[Table 5]

All the rest of the design's can be (sorta) seen on this page:

http://www.calgarymlc.ca/rivers_proj...ck%27s_bridge/

Or you can wait till some enterprising forumer on skyscraperpage.com puts up all the images themselves.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Table 5

All the rest of the design's can be (sorta) seen on this page:

http://www.calgarymlc.ca/rivers_proj...ck%27s_bridge/

Or you can wait till some enterprising forumer on skyscraperpage.com puts up all the images themselves.

First impressions: I like the Halcrow Yolles one that has green spaces as part of the actual bridge. The other Halcow Yolles one is good, too. And both the SPF ones, particularly the steps one. Also like the simple curves of the Delcan one. For some reason, none of the tall, cantilevered ones are doing it for me.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by octothorp

For some reason, none of the tall, cantilevered ones are doing it for me.

They all tend to feel like Calatrava rip-offs....not Peace Bridge Callatrava, but regular Callatrava. I think it's time to move on past that type of bridge...even if some vertical elements would be nice to have.

The one with the steps, "Glide" by SPF is my favorite so far as well.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Table 5

All the rest of the design's can be (sorta) seen on this page:

http://www.calgarymlc.ca/rivers_proj...ck%27s_bridge/

Or you can wait till some enterprising forumer on skyscraperpage.com puts up all the images themselves.

Wow, that's an amazingly crappy web site.

[COGENT]

Originally Posted by Table 5

All the rest of the design's can be (sorta) seen on this page:

http://www.calgarymlc.ca/rivers_proj...ck%27s_bridge/

Or you can wait till some enterprising forumer on skyscraperpage.com puts up all the images themselves.

A lot of the same old thing but a few interesting ideas.
My top 3:
Halcrow Yolles - The Reach
SPFa - Arup (O-Bar)
SPFa Arup (Glide

Notables:
Manu Chugh Architect
The Marc Boutin Architectural Collaborative
DeJong Design Associates

[octothorp]

I'm glad to see the strength of the Marc Boutin one and the two from Halcrow Yolles; definitely the best of the local architects and on par with the international designs. At the same time, there are a lot of local firms that I had really expected more from.

[Bunk]

My first impressions - hopefully we can just post some of the images soon:

Great (should be shortlisted):

- Rosales + Partners - Schlaich Bergermann and Partner Joint Venture

- Halcrow Yolles - The Reach

- Arup / Kasian

- Saucier + Perrotte Architects (on the fence about this one)

- SPF:a with Arup (Glide)

Good (could be shortlisted)

- River Crossing Team

- Busby Perkins + Will

- Halcrow Yolles - Eddie and Flow

- Delcan +DTAH

- Marc Boutin Architecture Collaborate

- Sturgess Architecture

- Infinity Engineering Group

- SPF: a with Arup (O bar)

- Arup & Federic Schwartz Architects

- Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners

Mediocre (and unoriginal)

- Manu Chugh Architect

- Buckland & Taylor, Ltd

- Arup with Falko Schmitt Architects

- DeJong Design Associates Ltd. / kta Structural Engineers

- IBI Group Et Al

- CH2MHILL Option 1

- Team IBHL (rip off)

- RFR / Halsall

- Endres Ware and Ammann & Whitney

Fata (Come on now)

- Design Vision

- Brett Lowe Architect

- Associated Engineering Option 2

- Associated Engineering Option 1

- CH2MHILL Option 2

- Abes Wagner & Partner ZT-GMBH

Obviously Amateur (nice try)

- Erin Swift

- Zhiyi You

- Bosun Lu (best of the amateurs)

[moncton golden flames]

i can't believe some architects put their names on some of those submissions. amateur is too flattering for a lot of those designs.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

i can't believe some architects put their names on some of those submissions. amateur is too flattering for a lot of those designs.

I think the majority of these submissions do a better job of explaining why cities go out and hire a guy like Calatrava, than anyone of us who were arguing in that bridge thread ever could.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I think the majority of these submissions do a better job of explaining why cities go out and hire a guy like Calatrava, than anyone of us who were arguing in that bridge thread ever could.

So true, someone should email some of these to Calatrava and express our apologies for people complaining that we gave him the first bridge.

[Barnes]

Even though I forgot to submit my design, I am pleased to see I was not far off from some of them.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Even though I forgot to submit my design, I am pleased to see I was not far off from some of them.

I would have lobbied hard for your design Barnes, it was truly an amazing project made up of citizens opinions.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by fotze

Halcrow is a Toronto company (that now has a Calgary office ever since the they got the Bow work). Carry on.

Thanks, I did a google on them and a Calgary address was the first to pop up, so I just assumed they were Calgary-based.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I think the majority of these submissions do a better job of explaining why cities go out and hire a guy like Calatrava, than anyone of us who were arguing in that bridge thread ever could.

quoted for truth.