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View Poll Results: Have you ever driven drunk, or believed that you might have been drunk?
Yes 158 58.09%
No 114 41.91%
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:37 PM   #121
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I was going to avoid this thread, but screw it, I'll dive in. Everyone who's had to endure these terrible losses, I am truly sorry.

I've got a pretty good idea about this stuff, seeing as how I'm probably the only poster in CP history to admit I got a DUI. Go read the thread I started if you want to know the story, I'm not going into it. And if you want to dump on me some more, go to town.

Here is my point, and why I posted the BAC calculator link: Drinking and driving happens way more often than any one of us would like to admit. If you've ever gone out to the bar, had some drinks, and driven home? You probably drove drunk.

BAC has zero correlation to how "you feel". Your tolerance and the science of alcohol in the human body are completely separate. A teetotaler who has 2 beers may feel loaded, and a heavy drinker who has 10 may feel like they're just "buzzed". The teetotaler might only have a .03 BAC, while the heavy drinker has a .11

Now you may say "well, I've got a high metabolism" or "I don't feel it at all". This does not change much. The average person metabolises alcohol at .03 an hour. How do I know this? I had to take 24 hours of alcohol classes, and that stuff sticks with you.

Let's use a different calculator. This is the University of Oklahoma's Police Department site http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm . I see a lot of posters say they are in good shape, I assume they are an athletic build, so lets say you're a 185 lb male. You go to happy hour after work with your buddies, we've all done that right? From 5-7, you have 3 16oz pints of Canadian 5% beer. That's again one beer every 40 minutes.

When you're done, according to this, your BAC will be close to .06. This is definitely enough to get you a ticket and enough to impair your driving. To get back to zero, you need to stay at the bar, sober, until 9pm.

I guess what I'm trying to say is be very careful what you do. Like I said, this is far more prevalent than most of us would like to admit, and I'll say I think it's far more prevalent than the poll shows. You don't have to be sloppy drunk to drive drunk.

From here: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...CWeb/page2.htm

Blood Alcohol
Concentration (BAC)1
Typical Effects
Predictable Effects on Driving
.02%
  • Some loss of judgment
  • Relaxation
  • Slight body warmth
  • Altered mood
  • Decline in visual functions (rapid tracking of a moving target)
  • Decline in ability to perform two tasks at the same time (divided attention)
.05%
  • Exaggerated behavior
  • May have loss of small-muscle control (e.g., focusing your eyes)
  • Impaired judgment
  • Usually good feeling
  • Lowered alertness
  • Release of inhibition
  • Reduced coordination
  • Reduced ability to track moving objects
  • Difficulty steering
  • Reduced response to emergency driving situations
.08%
  • Muscle coordination becomes poor (e.g., balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing)
  • Harder to detect danger
  • Judgment, self-control, reasoning, and memory are impaired
  • Concentration
  • Short-term memory loss
  • Speed control
  • Reduced information processing capability (e.g., signal detection, visual search)
  • Impaired perception
.10%
  • Clear deterioration of reaction time and control
  • Slurred speech, poor coordination, and slowed thinking
  • Reduced ability to maintain lane position and brake appropriately
.15%
  • Far less muscle control than normal
  • Vomiting may occur (unless this level is reached slowly or a
    person has developed a tolerance
    for alcohol)
  • Major loss of balance
  • Substantial impairment in vehicle control, attention to driving task, and in necessary visual and auditory information processing
1 Information in this table shows the BAC level at which the effect usually is first observed, and has been gathered from a variety of sources including the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, the American Medical Association, the National Commission Against Drunk Driving, and www.webMD.com.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:42 PM   #122
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Sorry if anybody thought the question was too vague. Basically there are two options for a reason; people are talking about zero tolerances, and that they "maybe" had too much to drink.

For me it's cut and dried, either you have driven drunk or you haven't. It's like asking if somebody is a virgin; you either are or are not.

And I'm not speaking from some high horse here. I'm not proud to admit that I have driven drunk in the past. But fortunately it didn't take somebody getting hurt for me to see how wrong it was.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:46 PM   #123
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yes I have been STUPID and drove

anyone else been ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:48 PM   #124
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I also know that a certain company here in Calgary just recently gave only a slap on the wrist for people driving company vehicles after they had been drinking at Stampede functions
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But yours are the most interesting. You implied that anyone who voted yes should be incarcerated. I must have misread your implication as you were not just making your point. But proposing a pseudo inquisition as you had hoped the poll was public.
I'm truly flattered but can you even read?

please post where i said they should be incarcerated?
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:02 PM   #126
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I don't mind it. In fact i don't mind if everyone drinks and drive. Just don't hit and injure/kill anyone.

Just be prepared for the consequences if you get caught. Well not with our legal system now.
wtf?

Are you serious? or drunk?
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:19 PM   #127
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I'm truly flattered but can you even read?

please post where i said they should be incarcerated?

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wtf?

Are you serious? or drunk?
You have obviously never read the book "How to win friends and influence people".

Why are you always so belligerent and continuously insulting to people?
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:21 PM   #128
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Just drunk enough to make it exciting (I haven't even scratched a vehicle)

Driving stoned is awesome. Studies prove it makes you a better, more cautious driver.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #129
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I'm truly flattered but can you even read?

please post where i said they should be incarcerated?

I'm not letter this pissing match continue. Look, I took what you read to the extreme and over reacted.

/end pissing match
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:25 PM   #130
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You have obviously never read the book "How to win friends and influence people".

Why are you always so belligerent and continuously insulting to people?
I dont log onto CP to make friends. Making them is fine but i wont go out of my way to make them.

Yeah baby posted two false posts accusing me of something i never said and if you actually read my posts im not insulting to anyone unless they insulted me first.

You're the last one that should be giving advice anyways. I've seen you put down numerous posters for no reason and im surprised you're not even banned yet.
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I'm not letter this pissing match continue. Look, I took what you read to the extreme and over reacted.

/end pissing match
I dont want it to continue either its all good in the hood.
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Just drunk enough to make it exciting (I haven't even scratched a vehicle)

Driving stoned is awesome. Studies prove it makes you a better, more cautious driver.
Woah woah... back the truck up. Can you provide a link to these studies?
This wasn't a sarcastic post was it?
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No I haven't.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:36 PM   #134
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Im sure those studies were done by "high" scientists
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:41 PM   #135
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I dont log onto CP to make friends. Making them is fine but i wont go out of my way to make them.
Obviously. You don't appear to be very good at it.

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Yeah baby posted two false posts accusing me of something i never said and if you actually read my posts im not insulting to anyone unless they insulted me first.
I beg to differ. The first time you insulted me I didn't know you from a hole in the ground. You went out of your way to post an insult. I am sure many others here have experienced the same from you.


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You're the last one that should be giving advice anyways. I've seen you put down numerous posters for no reason and im surprised you're not even banned yet.
I've been a member since 2007 and in all that time have only received 1 point penalty for insulting another member. That was a member that I called an idiot and he indeed proved me right and was eventually banned. You however, have only been here since June 2009 and you are well on your way to making a lot of enemies on here as a result of your continuous belligerent attitude.

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Good grief! Another thread infested with a pissing contest!
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Good grief! Another thread infested with a pissing contest!
The thread was doing quite well until EDBTZ12 started insulting people.
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I drove a few hours after having a few coolers about 12 years ago. I probably wasn't legally drunk, but I still answered yes to the poll
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The thread was doing quite well until EDBTZ12 started insulting people.
It takes 2 people to start a pissing contest.
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Obviously. You don't appear to be very good at it.

I beg to differ. The first time you insulted me I didn't know you from a hole in the ground. You went out of your way to post an insult. I am sure many others here have experienced the same from you.



I've been a member since 2007 and in all that time have only received 1 point penalty for insulting another member. That member was NHL009 who I called an idiot and he indeed proved me right and was eventually banned. You however, have only been here since June 2009 and you are well on your way to making a lot of enemies on here as a result of your continuous belligerent attitude.
I dont care if you dont receive a penalty..doesn't mean you aren't rude and obnoxious.

NHL009 wasn't banned btw.

I dont care how many enemies i make if i speak what i believe. You on the other hand say things to "make friends" and "influence" people

No thanks to that.
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