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jar_e · 06-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

...and actor.

Michael Jackson was definitely weird... but musically and entertainment wise, he was second to none. OJ Simpson could definitely run the ball but was a criminal and possibly a sociopath.

I think it's separable because we're not judging either of them from an overall standpoint... just memories of Jackson.

What? And we're saying Jackson is not!?!?!?? Yikes.

transplant99 · 06-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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I think they're relatively comparable...both high profile celebs with millions (?) of dollars to spend on defense lawyers

OJ didnt get acquitted because of his defnse team...but wholly because of the ineptitude of the prosecution. They were beyond pathetic.

But i wont derail this any longer and will agree with this...

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but if the allegations were true, he deserves no respect IMO.

You Need a Thneed · 06-25-2009, 05:00 PM

You can separate the art from the artist. Art can be good even when the Artist is bad. There are likely numerous other instances where the public has had no problem with similar cases.

Pagal4321 · 06-25-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

I have a difficult time trying to look past child molestation. ... but to each his own I guess... you apparently don't have the same problem I guess.

Maybe because I can seperate his short comings as a person for exactly what he did to the world of music. Just like with OJ, some people can seperate professional accomplishments and his crazyness that followed.

I choose to remember the guy based on his musical contributions and not the fact he had a very sketchy life after he was "done" with music.

HelloHockeyFans · 06-25-2009, 05:01 PM

RIP to a true legend.

carom · 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM

I will always remember him as one of the best Simpsons guest stars. Good ol John Jay Smith

hkstylez · 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM

Amen...

Clever_Iggy · 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jar_e

What? And we're saying Jackson is not!?!?!?? Yikes.

Jesus. You okay? That's a lot of exclamation points and question marks. Your hate on for Jackson is pretty strong and you seem pretty convinced that he was a child molester. Like to share...?

OJ Simpson was convicted as a criminal, Michael Jackson was not. We have not determined if either OJ Simpson or Michael Jackson was a sociopath. I was saying that OJ has been accused of being one because of how he lived after the murders.

Rerun · 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

That was low.

Perhaps... but I think child molesters should be ostracized from society and totally shunned.... no matter how wonderful they are in other aspects of their life.

to me, supporting a child molester in his career is the same as supporting the act in itself. To me child molesters should be driven out of society and put in some kind of leper community. If you support the offender by providing him with $$$ he will continue to prey on the young and innocent.

Tower · 06-25-2009, 05:03 PM

I guess God told him to "beat it".

GreenTeaFrapp · 06-25-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swarly

no but i'll remember him for his amazing acting career.

The Naked Gun

Well, he was supposed to have Arnold's role in the Terminator but they thought he was too nice of a guy to be believable as a robotic killing machine.

Pagal4321 · 06-25-2009, 05:06 PM

Good on you Rerun, for standing up for what you beleive in. But you just labelled millions of people as a "Child Molestation Sympathizer".

Way to go!

HotHotHeat · 06-25-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tower

I guess God told him to "beat it".

Unfunny, uninspired, and unreadable. Congrats on the triple U.

While I wish he would have gotten through a few of those concerts first, the guy did a hell of a lot to ruin himself throughout the years.

Rome better play the adult alarm at 10:06 AM tomorrow.

Rerun · 06-25-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Good on you Rerun, for standing up for what you beleive in. But you just labelled millions of people as a "Child Molestation Sympathizer".

Way to go!

Sometimes ya gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk.

To me its black and white... no grey whey it comes to child molestation.

transplant99 · 06-25-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

Sometimes ya gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk.

To me its black and white... no grey whey it comes to child molestation.

But you dont know that he did for sure.

IF he did...then sure, agree with most of what you are saying as far as the man himself goes, but as far as the artist goes? He was brilliant...whether you like it or not.

Pagal4321 · 06-25-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

Sometimes ya gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk.

To me its black and white... no grey whey it comes to child molestation.

Problem is I'm not talking about him as a person, I'm going to mourn him as a musician. If you can't seperate the two, then there's alot of people's accomplishments you will chose to ignore. And that's fine.

I don't feel the need to mourn Michael Jackson the person, becuase he was little bit of a nut job. I will however mourn Michael Jackson the musician.

And if that makes me a bad/disgusting/deplorable person, then I guess so be it. Clearly that's the way I'm seen in your eyes and I'm not going to try and change your views on this.

Listening to a tribute to him right now, and enjoying every second of it. This cultural icon will be missed.

Suzles · 06-25-2009, 05:15 PM

Lewis Black is going to have to find a new punchline.

@theCBE · 06-25-2009, 05:17 PM

R.I.P.

never really cared one way or another when I heard a celebrity had died... I felt something when I heard this one.

MJ was awesome.

Traditional_Ale · 06-25-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

Sometimes ya gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk.

To me its black and white... no grey whey it comes to child molestation.

I took my baby
On a saturday bang
Boy is that girl with you
Yes were one and the same

Now I believe in miracles
And a miracle
Has happened tonight

But, if
Youre thinkin
About my baby
It dont matter if youre
Black or white

They print my message
In the saturday sun
I had to tell them
I aint second to none

And I told about equality
An its true
Either youre wrong
Or youre right

But, if
Youre thinkin
About my baby
It dont matter if youre
Black or white

I am tired of this devil
I am tired of this stuff
I am tired of this business
Sew when the
Going gets rough
I aint scared of
Your brother
I aint scared of no sheets
I aint scare of nobody
Girl when the
Goin gets mean

(l. t. b. rap performance)
Protection
For gangs, clubs
And nations
Causing grief in
Human relations
Its a turf war
On a global scale
Id rather hear both sides
Of the tale
See, its not about races
Just places
Faces
Where your blood
Comes from
Is where your space is
Ive seen the bright
Get duller
Im not going to spend
My life being a color

(michael)
Dont tell me you agree with me
When I saw you kicking dirt in my eye

But, if
Youre thinkin about my baby
It dont matter if youre black or white

I said if
Youre thinkin of
Being my baby
It dont matter if youre black or white

I said if
Youre thinkin of
Being my brother
It dont matter if youre
Black or white

Ooh, ooh
Yea, yea, yea now
Ooh, ooh
Yea, yea, yea now

Its black, its white
Its tough for you
To get by
Its black , its white, whoo

Its black, its white
Its tough for you
To get by
Its black , its white, whoo

HOOT · 06-25-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

To me its black and white...

Well at least you and MJ could agree on one thing.