a) be kicked in the head with a cop's boot. b) be hit by a swerving car driven down the wrong side of the road at approximately 80km/hour by a out of control young (probably cronic re-) offender.
I think by now this officer knows he shouldn't have kicked this kid, and not because it was posted on You-Tube. Of course he should be sanctioned, but why is what the police do more shocking and offensive than what criminals do?
I sure hope all the people in this thread who are in the criminals defence, aren't the same people who think Canada's justice system is too lenient on criminals.
IMO, break the law like this and you should get your sh*t effed up, you're worthless. You have no sympathy from me.
Interesting read, I found this part pretty telling:
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The potential for an adrenaline overload during a pursuit is tremendous, particularly for younger, inexperienced officers. One study quoted on the Discovery Channel's "High-Speed Pursuit" proclaimed that officers involved in extended pursuits have adrenaline levels that exceed those of soldiers engaged in combat.
I've done some pretty out of character acts when I've had adrenaline rushes, I could only imagine what I might act like with such a high level.
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Argh, yeah the cop was in the wrong prolly. But: you run - serious issue. You almost run someone over - potential real serious issue.
If i was that cop I'd have done a lot worse. Moral of the story: Don't be a criminal dumbass. Yeah yeah we all hate the cops, it sucks getting busted etc, but if you chose to pull that kind of crap what do you really expect? Stop being a maroon and don't get kicked in the head.
The double edged sword with cops kills me. In this situation, you don't know what the hell that crazy effer is going to do next. Does he have a concealed weapon? Perhaps. If the choice is beat the holy hell out of the kid or maybe get stabbed by his random craziness i say beat him. It it nice that we live in this part of North America and are afforded these luxuries, make this a Mexican or Jordanian video and that kid's brains are splattered on the grass and there is no issue.
OK, kinda drunk and not making my points well again.
You just take the part of the video address that comes after "=" (so in your case wfyYT4E0fyA), and then stick it in [youtube] opening and closing brackets.
If you quote my post you'll see how it works here:
I sure hope all the people in this thread who are in the criminals defence, aren't the same people who think Canada's justice system is too lenient on criminals.
I think you should watch Law & Order. There are two distinctly separate groups the police that find the criminals and the district atorny's that prosocute them.
I can be all for harsh sentances and not be hypocritical in saying the police should use the minimum force neccessary to aprehend a suspect. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
While we are at it why don't we take everyone who is involved in a car chase and test drugs on them instead of animals
Yup, I said that in a previous post as well. But you rarely see it from the regular anti-police guys here, so I am just throwing my opinion out there as well. I virtually ALWAYS take the side of the police until I hear otherwise. To me, they are more trustworthy than some random criminal.
There are a lot of threads where people are outraged at police action -- this one, the girl kicking her shoes at the cop, the cop tackling the cylcist and on and on. But the cops in those videos do deserve the harsh words directed at them. The cops aren't above or exempt from the law; they have to obey it like everyone else. And when those trusted with enforcing the law are breaking it themselves regardless of the intenions behind it or whether or not it was deserved, they sabotage the trust the public has placed in them.
I don't think there are as many 'anti-police guys' here as you think though. I think most people recognize that the cops are there for are own safety and protection and the vast, vast majority of them do their jobs bravely, silently and often heroicly. It's just that these actions don't make the news because their expected. Fair or not, we expect cops to act this way, so when they don't its a big story.
But that doesn't mean all cops are infallable. Just like there are good people among the general populace that make mistakes, there are cops that make them as well. Joe Average has to pay for his mistakes, so the cop does too. To always take the cops side is just as unfair as always taking the suspects.
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I think you should watch Law & Order. There are two distinctly separate groups the police that find the criminals and the district atorny's that prosocute them.
You should watch Law and Order...
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by 2 separate yet equally important groups. The police, who investigate crimes, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
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I sure hope all the people in this thread who are in the criminals defence, aren't the same people who think Canada's justice system is too lenient on criminals.
IMO, break the law like this and you should get your sh*t effed up, you're worthless. You have no sympathy from me.
There could be other explanations that explain the behaviours like ......
Maybe the poor kid just had a vaccination shot?
Actually ... come to think of it, maybe the cop?
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In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by 2 separate yet equally important groups. The police, who investigate crimes, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
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I can't watch tv shows about lawyers. Lawyers on tv all seem to be detectives. I can't remember the last time I solved a crime.
I didn't really believe the stuff I wrote previously.
However, having had a minor amount of use of force training and knowing a number of people involved in law enforcement, I can appreciate the situation these officers are in. They are involved in the pursuit of a suspect resisting arrest. Their adrenalin is pumping. They need to perform at an optimum level not only to protect themselves but also the public. Should the suspect use force, they must be ready to respond in kind in an instant. Hesitation could result in injury or death to themselves or others. It's understandable, considering all the above, that an officer might make a poor decision or fail to exercise an appropriate level of restraint in a tense situation. Not saying that it excuses the boot to the head but I can certainly appreciate how easy it may be to go too far.
I didn't really believe the stuff I wrote previously.
However, having had a minor amount of use of force training and knowing a number of people involved in law enforcement, I can appreciate the situation these officers are in. They are involved in the pursuit of a suspect resisting arrest. Their adrenalin is pumping. They need to perform at an optimum level not only to protect themselves but also the public. Should the suspect use force, they must be ready to respond in kind in an instant. Hesitation could result in injury or death to themselves or others. It's understandable, considering all the above, that an officer might make a poor decision or fail to exercise an appropriate level of restraint in a tense situation. Not saying that it excuses the boot to the head but I can certainly appreciate how easy it may be to go too far.
Agree, for all we know this dude was spitting at the officer.
I can't watch tv shows about lawyers. Lawyers on tv all seem to be detectives. I can't remember the last time I solved a crime.
Are you a district attorney?
On topic: Kid deserved a boot. I am against most of the cops actions on these online tapings. But this time, please. Endanger the public, make me chase you, and if I am a cop, you will get some beats.
And when those trusted with enforcing the peaceare breaking it themselves regardless of the intenions behind it or whether or not it was deserved, they sabotage the trust the public has placed in them.
Fixed with much greater meaning.
Enforcing peace is far more important than enforcing law. Many laws are security interest, but in this case the peace office must enforce peace on the man whom is disturbing the peace.
Enforcing peace is far more important than enforcing law. Many laws are security interest, but in this case the peace office must enforce peace on the man whom is disturbing the peace.
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On topic: Kid deserved a boot. I am against most of the cops actions on these online tapings. But this time, please. Endanger the public, make me chase you, and if I am a cop, you will get some beats.
Yep, the kid probably deserves it....and the cop also deserves punishment for overstepping his bounds, just like a regular joe would.
