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Frequitude · 03-14-2009, 09:19 AM

And these Alberta-Ontario games have been an absolute treat. The skips never miss a shot, both easy and ridiculously tough ones. That has led to some spectacular ends. They aren't afraid to get lots of rocks in play because they know they can make the tough shots later to move them around to their liking.

The number of perfect freezes, delicate hits around a guard with hack weight, and of course the run-backs are just amazing. I hope we see round 3 on Sunday.

There's still tickets available. I just landed some good ones last night...row 3 on the balcony. Everyone should get out to support this and enjoy the show.

ricoFlame · 03-14-2009, 01:23 PM

stoughton with a sweet double raise to score two in 10 for the win. so clutch, guy can still throw.

Slava · 03-14-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frequitude

Not quite.

Outturn - Stick your throwing arm straight out to the side. Swing it towards straight in front of you...making it curl that way is the out turn.

Inturn - Stick your throwing arm across your body to the other side. Swing it away towards straight in front of you...making it curl that way is the in turn.

Does that make sense?

No, you lost me here. Not saying that you are wrong, I just don't get the picture in my head. Do you mean that if you are holding the rock in your right hand and throw counter-clockwise that is the in-turn and clockwise is the outturn then?

ricoFlame · 03-14-2009, 03:57 PM

Outturn = Draw

Inturn = Slice

Svartsengi · 03-14-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slava

No, you lost me here. Not saying that you are wrong, I just don't get the picture in my head. Do you mean that if you are holding the rock in your right hand and throw counter-clockwise that is the in-turn and clockwise is the outturn then?

Picture the hands of a clock.
An inturn would be like starting at 10 and rotating the hand/handle to 12
An outturn would start at 2 and rotate back to 12.

The player throwing the rock at one end of the ice lines himself up with the skips broom at the other end of the ice. The rock thrown may or may not cross the center line. It depends where the skip places the broom, what turn he calls and how much curl the ice has.

Not trying to complicate things but once in awhile on bad ice the rock will fall out against the turn. Inturn thrown yet actually moving like an outturn. I have not watched the entire brier to know if this has happened or not but if you are new to curling this could really screw you up.

GirlySports · 03-14-2009, 11:29 PM

I think my explanation was the easiest

metallicat · 03-15-2009, 08:46 PM

Martin wins. That was awesome!

fredr123 · 03-15-2009, 10:50 PM

I've never been to the Brier before but my old man had a couple extra tickets for the final so we went. Good times.

Martin was en fuego. I mean, the man refused to miss tonight. Stoughton couldn't have beaten him on his beatingest day if he had an electrified beating machine.

Not sure if it got picked up on TSN or not, but on Alberta's last stone on the last end someone yelled out from the 300's "BOOOOOOOORRINNNNNGGGG". Martin and Morris kind of laughed uncomfortably. Then Stoughton did his spin move out of the hack and everyone in the stands erupted. Standing ovation. Shake hands. Done.

Also, probably the first Tim Horton's Brier ever where you couldn't buy a Tim Horton's at the venue.

malcolmk14 · 03-16-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Svartsengi

Picture the hands of a clock.
An inturn would be like starting at 10 and rotating the hand/handle to 12
An outturn would start at 2 and rotate back to 12.

This is correct, assuming you're right handed.

If your elbow is moving IN towards your body when you release the rock, it's an in turn.

JohnnyFlame · 03-16-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fredr123

I've never been to the Brier before but my old man had a couple extra tickets for the final so we went. Good times.

Martin was en fuego. I mean, the man refused to miss tonight. Stoughton couldn't have beaten him on his beatingest day if he had an electrified beating machine.

Not sure if it got picked up on TSN or not, but on Alberta's last stone on the last end someone yelled out from the 300's "BOOOOOOOORRINNNNNGGGG". Martin and Morris kind of laughed uncomfortably. Then Stoughton did his spin move out of the hack and everyone in the stands erupted. Standing ovation. Shake hands. Done.

Also, probably the first Tim Horton's Brier ever where you couldn't buy a Tim Horton's at the venue.

It was in fact quite boring. Entirely because Martin and his crew are just too stinking good. What don't they do better than everybody else? All four of them should have been allstars. They make the clutch shots look so easy and are just poised ready to jump on any mistake. Meanwhile they can bail themselves out of trouble with double takeouts or whatever they need to pull off.

Personally if I'm running the Oly's they are the team--I don't bother with any tourneys to decide that--it's obvious bigtime.

mykalberta · 03-16-2009, 09:18 AM

Fantastic curling.

I went on Saturday - definately enjoy the TV in HD more. I will definately watch the Olympic playoff in December. Curling has gotten so much better in just 10 years.

I compare Curling to Golf. Both suck watching live, but are amazing watching on TV. I will likely never go to another live event of either.

fredr123 · 03-16-2009, 09:24 AM

Wouldn't you make fun of someone at the Dome for saying the same things about a hockey game?

On TV, you can always rely on the play by play and colour guys to tell you what's going on, who's on the ice, etc. You don't get that live.

On TV, you can usually see where the puck is at any given time. When watching live, there may be times when the action is at the other end of the rink and you can't really make out a lot of what's going on.

Being there live, whether for hockey or curling, at least to me, is about the atmosphere as much as actually watching the game. I like watching the things the cameras never pick up like the stuff that's going on behind the scenes away from the action. Maybe it's Martin and Stoughton yucking it up between shots or someone jawing away with Phaneuf as they both go off for a change behind the play.

I really do, however, enjoy hearing what all the players have to say during the curling events. Micing up the players was a great idea and really does add to things. If there was an FM broadcast of the TSN play by play that you could pick up on a small radio/headset at the Dome, you would have been all set.

Frequitude · 03-16-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Slava

No, you lost me here. Not saying that you are wrong, I just don't get the picture in my head. Do you mean that if you are holding the rock in your right hand and throw counter-clockwise that is the in-turn and clockwise is the outturn then?

Well, inturn and outturn are opposite for if you're a lefty or a righty.

Righty:
Out turn = counterclockwise (when looking from above)
In turn = clockwise

Lefty:
Out turn = clockwise
In turn = counterclockwise

Frequitude · 03-16-2009, 10:31 AM

I consider myself an avid curling fan, but much prefer to watch it on TV because of the camera angles and the mic'd up players. These don't come into play in a live vs. TV hockey debate (I much prefer live of course). But yes, it is all about the atmosphere.

Martin was simply outstanding yesterday. I'd like to dig up the numbers for everyone. But around the 6th the scoreboard said Martin was curling 96%. That's phenominal. Stoughton didn't stand a chance.

It's too bad that as soon as Martin went up 3-0, everyone in the building knew it was over.

malcolmk14 · 03-16-2009, 11:09 AM

When he went up 3-0 I kinda thought it was probably over, but it was when he went up 6-1 that I think everyone in the building knew it was over

JohnnyFlame · 03-16-2009, 11:14 AM

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When he went up 3-0 I kinda thought it was probably over, but it was when he went up 6-1 that I think everyone in the building knew it was over

That's when I quit watching. I flicked back every once in awhile to catch the end but it was more than obvious it was a beatdown.

Frequitude · 03-16-2009, 11:56 AM

Hebert = 86%
Kennedy = 93%
Morris = 93%
Martin = 97%

Gould = 100%
Fowler = 86%
Park = 82%
Stoughton = 81%

fredr123 · 03-16-2009, 11:59 AM

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Hebert = 86%
Kennedy = 93%
Morris = 93%
Martin = 97%

Gould = 100%
Fowler = 86%
Park = 82%
Stoughton = 81%

How do they calculate these percentages? You get, what, max 20 shots a game unless it goes to extra ends. How do you get such a fine distinction in these numbers when your denominator in the equation is so low?

GirlySports · 03-16-2009, 01:03 PM

3-0 after the 2nd end and it's over?

There's too much clutching and grabbing in curling.

Frequitude · 03-16-2009, 01:14 PM

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How do they calculate these percentages? You get, what, max 20 shots a game unless it goes to extra ends. How do you get such a fine distinction in these numbers when your denominator in the equation is so low?

Every shot gets a score between 0-4 out of 4. If its a ######edly impossible shot, they can get 1 or 2 bonus points.