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Old 02-18-2009, 02:45 PM   #21
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So this is the second patch right? I'm seriously impressed with EA and what they've done and continue to do with this game. It honestly doesn't ever leave my xbox, any other game just pales in comparison to the fun I've had with NHL 09. You almost wonder what they could possibly do to make NHL 2010 better.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:05 PM   #22
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games go on much longer now because of the increase in penalties. goons need to adjust their game instead of hitting everything. (im typing this while i sit in the box for interference)
in my couple of games i have done pretty well. the part that scares me as a dman is the ability to hit the guy skating in for the cross crease pass type goal. i generally try not to interfere, but sometimes you time the hit a bit early. hopefully that won't be too bad of a penalty call. its just so hard to tie people up as they drive the net. generally, just hitting them to knock them off balance or out of the play is the best solution.

last night i made the comment that we will have to start referring to the style of play as 'the new nhl' like they did in real life after the lockout. there's just so much different that i think we will see a totally different style of play emerge.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:35 PM   #23
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do u know when the patch is out for the xbox?
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:41 PM   #24
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do u know when the patch is out for the xbox?
Not yet.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:57 PM   #25
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This update does me no good. I can't score to begin with and I get plenty of interference calls now.

I'm hooped
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:00 PM   #26
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So this is the second patch right? I'm seriously impressed with EA and what they've done and continue to do with this game. It honestly doesn't ever leave my xbox, any other game just pales in comparison to the fun I've had with NHL 09. You almost wonder what they could possibly do to make NHL 2010 better.
Yeah, it's great that they've taken the time to do 2 patches for free. But a lot of this stuff should have been in there from the beginning. Reviews aren't indepth enough to see all the issues, so problems are always a suprise. To be honest, if I had known about all the problems that were going to pop up, I never would have bought the game.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:04 PM   #27
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Should it still be on the NHL 09 screen?? Or after the update is done can I play right away?
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:18 PM   #28
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But a lot of this stuff should have been in there from the beginning.
That would be nice but impossible. For a franchise that comes out yearly, to beta test in time for the start of the season would be too hard. This is also the first time they introduced the EASHL and with all the endless combinations for leveling up stats there's way more exploits than in previous games. Good on them for patching it.

For next year I'd like to see a practice mode for EASHL. The ability to run some drills, practice shots on goalies and doing some scrimmage with the fatas would be cool.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:46 PM   #29
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That would be nice but impossible.
I guess so, but I bought the game for online only and it's been a hassle ever since I got it. Dirty disc errors, connection errors, multiple types of glitch goals, juice points, infinite loop on the faceoff when the game glitches, and just the overall polish. Why do we have have to waste up to an extra 10 minutes a game because some goof isn't pressing A? Why can't I tell who's talking during the game? Why can some loser on my team ruin the game for the rest of us with no recourse?

Some of this stuff is pretty basic for a multiplayer game. But as this game is also heavy on single player too, maybe it just stretches itself too far over both game types.

Oh well, after this patch, it might be worth the $60 I spent on it (IMO of course). I just have to stop relying on the reviews and wait a bit, maybe do a rental before I buy them.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:34 PM   #30
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Ya they get a free pass from me this year since they added so much. NHL09 is pretty much the beta test for next years. NHL10 should be good from the beginning like you want.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:12 PM   #31
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The new patch sucks!!! Played two games online and I was in the penalty box for half of the game. Guess I will just have to adapt and not hit guys after they dump the puck off.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:16 PM   #32
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yeah, a lot of people are having a tough time. gotta admit, i love skating down the ice behind the play and not getting knocked down the whole time.
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Hating the new patch. Way too many interference penalties. Takes alot of the fun out of the game, IMO.

Still lots of inadvertent penalties by trying to bang in a loose puck or deflect and cross checking the defenceman instead...very frustrating.

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Old 02-18-2009, 11:16 PM   #34
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I don't see what the problem is...just don't hit someone without the puck, just like the real nhl! Hold L2 when going for rebounds to prevent accidental crosschecks. This was actually added in the last patch but now it works even better...
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:39 AM   #35
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Ya, there's a lot of penalties called against you if you are careless..BUT...I'm loving drawing penalties now...slow down just a little, let the guy hook me from behind...boom, PP time!

I can't believe I'm this close to being a virtual diver, but man are 5-3 PP's fun.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:49 AM   #36
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Hating the new patch. Way too many interference penalties. Takes alot of the fun out of the game, IMO.

Still lots of inadvertent penalties by trying to bang in a loose puck or deflect and cross checking the defenceman instead...very frustrating.
That's funny .... I found that the lack of interference penalties was taking the fun out of the game for me. I welcome this new patch and would present it with a glorious gift basket of exotic soaps if I could.
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That's funny .... I found that the lack of interference penalties was taking the fun out of the game for me. I welcome this new patch and would present it with a glorious gift basket of exotic soaps if I could.
lol, good post. I have to admit that I was getting away with quite a few hits away from the play under the old patch. My "be a pro" player is a power forward and I was used to just running guys over. IMO the PFs in general are a bit less effective with this new patch, greater chance of a penalty even if the player has the puck (elbowing, ect) and hitting seems less effective in general.

After playing it a bit more and adjusting my game I am taking far less penalties...but still taking some penalties that IMO are pretty iffy. It's almost like they turned up the penalties from a 4 to a 10, where 8 probably would have been about right. Moving the penalty slider down doesn't seem to have a whole lot of effect either.

I'd like to use hooking a bit more now - but it turns into a fight way too often, I guess I'll have to turn fighting way down or off.

On the whole, the game plays a quite a bit differently now.
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lol, good post. I have to admit that I was getting away with quite a few hits away from the play under the old patch. My "be a pro" player is a power forward and I was used to just running guys over. IMO the PFs in general are a bit less effective with this new patch, greater chance of a penalty even if the player has the puck (elbowing, ect) and hitting seems less effective in general.

After playing it a bit more and adjusting my game I am taking far less penalties...but still taking some penalties that IMO are pretty iffy. It's almost like they turned up the penalties from a 4 to a 10, where 8 probably would have been about right. Moving the penalty slider down doesn't seem to have a whole lot of effect either.

I'd like to use hooking a bit more now - but it turns into a fight way too often, I guess I'll have to turn fighting way down or off.

On the whole, the game plays a quite a bit differently now.
This is something I've been lobbying for years. I'd love to see two degrees of hits. One standard light hit that just delivers a regular check that serves little purpose other than knocking a puck loose, and a secondary hit that has more of an oomph to it and can put someone on their ass. Kind of like how baseball games have a "throw" button as well as a "hard throw" button. The regular throw is pretty much automatic while the hard throw is faster but more risky. I don't like how you have no control over whether your player is going to dish out a standard shoulder-to-shoulder hit or a devastating cross-check to the throat.

I say modifier buttons are the answer! I'd like a standard check on the right stick and a big hit on the right stick + R2 (or RT).

Quick side note, I'm finding one-timers much easier so far under the new patch. They still aren't terribly accurate, but I at least don't miss 3/4 of them anymore.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:41 PM   #39
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Yeah I agree with the other who say the new patch is crap. Sure you could get away with some interference on the previous patch, but now it's like you can't even hit anyone without getting a penalty. Those cheap one timers where the passing player does the fake and passes it across mostly from behind the net can't even be stopped anymore and they ruin the game for me.

I like how they fixed some things, such as the delay of game penalties from the computer D but for the most part I haven't enjoyed the games under the new patch.
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i think a lot depends on what mode you play most. interference was probably the biggest problem in the eashl. tons of crappy teams would just cross check people all game long and not take penalties. obviously, if you are playing single player mode, the computer isn't going to do that. additionally, even in 1 v 1 play, you aren't going to see as much of it because the human players are almost exclusively battling for the puck. (unless you have a person who just likes to cross check the computer guys that dont have the puck!)

the goalie stuff is a tough call. there will almost always be exploits. you fix one, another pops up. the ideal game would be one where there are no exploits but you have to actually score in different ways. but people being the over competitive ######s that you generally find online, always try to find the way they can score easiest. until you actually reward people that play honest semi-realistic hockey, the glitchers will always dominate and be encouraged. i do think the patches have brought the game closer to that way, but its still a ways off.
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