12-10-2008, 03:27 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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LOL! Great avatar, Pagal.
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12-10-2008, 03:42 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by habernac
LOL! Great avatar, Pagal.
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haha, thanks!
I'm forever in debt to HD for it.
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12-11-2008, 01:20 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...tnerId=rss_tor
LAS VEGAS -- The Blue Jays have reached an agreement on a Minor League contract with free-agent pitcher Matt Clement, according to a source. Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi would only say that the club might have something to announce on Thursday.
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12-11-2008, 01:24 PM
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#104
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Says they are also talking to Carl Pavano. Hmmm.
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12-11-2008, 02:39 PM
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#105
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Says they are also talking to Carl Pavano. Hmmm.
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Clement and Pavano? Is Ricciardi serious? Has he not already gone that route with Ohka and Zambrano?
What a joke!
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12-11-2008, 02:42 PM
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#106
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Strathmore
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Clement and Pavano? Is Ricciardi serious? Has he not already gone that route with Ohka and Zambrano?
What a joke!
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I love it!
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12-11-2008, 03:01 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Clement and Pavano? Is Ricciardi serious?
What a joke!
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Its well worth the risk, if the Jays sign them to a minor league contract what is the risk? Personally I like the move.... if any of them regain their form thats great if not its no big deal.
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12-11-2008, 03:09 PM
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#108
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by flambers
Its well worth the risk, if the Jays sign them to a minor league contract what is the risk? Personally I like the move.... if any of them regain their form thats great if not its no big deal.
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Ya but how long is that going to be J.P's modo? The Jays are realistically supposed to compete with loaded Rays, Yanks, and Red Sox teams with Matt Clement and Carl Pavano? Even if Clement comes back to form, he had a high 4 ERA!
Where's the bat? How about a SS? With Marcum and McGowan out to start next season I feel very uneasy about the rotation as is stands. Clement and Pavano are a waste of time and effort if you ask me.
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12-11-2008, 03:27 PM
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#109
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Strathmore
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The short stop could be Furcal but I thought I read they would want to move a contract or 2 if they land Furcal.
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12-11-2008, 03:31 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Ya but how long is that going to be J.P's modo? The Jays are realistically supposed to compete with loaded Rays, Yanks, and Red Sox teams with Matt Clement and Carl Pavano? Even if Clement comes back to form, he had a high 4 ERA!
Where's the bat? How about a SS? With Marcum and McGowan out to start next season I feel very uneasy about the rotation as is stands. Clement and Pavano are a waste of time and effort if you ask me.
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Jays have repeatly said, the budget is going to be tight they can not compete with the big markets in terms of Salary...
If they can not spend a pile of Salary this is the type of moves they will make....
What other choice do they have....
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12-11-2008, 03:32 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flickered Flame
The short stop could be Furcal but I thought I read they would want to move a contract or 2 if they land Furcal.
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Yep, JP said if he signed Furcal they would have to move a contract...
I would doubt the Jays have any chance to sign this guy...... but if they did my bet is BJ Ryan would be moved.
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12-11-2008, 03:55 PM
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#112
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Not the one...
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I have no interest in Furcal, he's not enough of an upgrade over Scoots.
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12-11-2008, 07:23 PM
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#113
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Big or small budget I think these guys are not the answers. With a big budget Ricciardi has still found the Thomson's and Ohka's of the world.
Furcal I do believe would be an upgrade because of his presence at the top of the order. He's a good hitter with a great arm and pretty good speed. IMO he's precisely what they need, but whether the $$ will work is another thing.
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12-12-2008, 03:19 PM
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#114
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Not the one...
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According to ESPN's Jerry Crasnick, the Yankees reached a preliminary agreement with A.J. Burnett on a five-year, $82.5MM deal ($16.5MM per year on average). The deal is pending a physical, and some final terms must be hammered out.
-MLBTR
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12-12-2008, 03:29 PM
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#115
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CowTown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Clement and Pavano? Is Ricciardi serious? Has he not already gone that route with Ohka and Zambrano?
What a joke!
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Dont forget Thompson haha what can the jays really do i mean they are up against my red sox and yankees who can spend whatever they want its the only thing they can do and hope for a fluke season...
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Originally Posted by Gozer
According to ESPN's Jerry Crasnick, the Yankees reached a preliminary agreement with A.J. Burnett on a five-year, $82.5MM deal ($16.5MM per year on average). The deal is pending a physical, and some final terms must be hammered out.
-MLBTR
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This on the other hand is absolutely ridiculous if this falls through i will be disgusted CC is one thing but AJ SUCKS good luck
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12-12-2008, 05:48 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
According to ESPN's Jerry Crasnick, the Yankees reached a preliminary agreement with A.J. Burnett on a five-year, $82.5MM deal ($16.5MM per year on average). The deal is pending a physical, and some final terms must be hammered out.
-MLBTR
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Already been said 10000 times, but man are the Yanks dumb.
A) Burnett buckles under the pressure
B) Burnett is a puss and gets injured often
I'd sure like Burnett on my team, but at that price, it's crazy. Sabathia is good, but how is a guy that overweight gonna perform over the course of his contract. Both huge overpayments and while it may work out for them in 2009 and 2010, it's gonna hurt them afterwards.
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12-12-2008, 05:50 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by RedHot25
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Am I missing something or did NY take everyone to the cleaners? Putz, if healthy is gonna be a gem for them and Reed ain't all that bad himself IMO.
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12-12-2008, 07:08 PM
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#119
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Retired
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Originally Posted by fleury
Am I missing something or did NY take everyone to the cleaners? Putz, if healthy is gonna be a gem for them and Reed ain't all that bad himself IMO.
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K-Rod and Putz? Yikes. That is quite a shutdown tandem.
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12-14-2008, 09:40 AM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaramonLS
K-Rod and Putz? Yikes. That is quite a shutdown tandem.
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i know. likely the top 1-2 punch in the league if all pans out.
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