12-03-2008, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
I don't get it. Maybe I'm tired of reading this thread...  |
I thought it was funny because of Gilles temptation to punch out Dion when the doors closed because while the Liberal's got into bed with the Separatists. The next morning or evening the Seps rolled over to cuddle some more and found out that they had spent the night with Bozo the clown.
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12-03-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
On the Alberta Separatist front, I wasn't aware that there was an Alberta Separatist party trying to dictate terms on government policy and the budget. I guess I need to go and review the election results because I must have missed all of those seats that they occupy in Parliment.
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Regardless of an Alberta Seperatist party having sway in parliament, you cannot honestly believe the Bloc has had seperatist ambitions for the last 16 years. They just use the looming 'possibility' of seperation as a massive bargaining chip, or bargaining bludgeon if you will.
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12-03-2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Yeah watching Duffy as well - unreal. This may have been brilliant by Harper. Ask for TV time knowing that Dion would as well and just let the guy screw himself.
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And he did it big time. The video quality was like one taken with a cell phone. Add to the fact the tape was late dispite a promise to have it on time due to TV commitments.
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12-03-2008, 07:20 PM
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With all the venom flying around, it's hard to take all these criticisms seriously.
I listened to Harper, Dion, and Layton speak on the radio and all of them sounded fine and ALL of them stretched the truth to try and make their points. You either buy what they're selling, or you don't.... but things are getting childish not just in parliament anymore...
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12-03-2008, 07:34 PM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This is what I said before, the Coalition has no economic plan and ignores or doesn't want the government to get to the budget which contains all of the plans that have come from consultations with the provinces and the G20 and business leaders.
The coalition really has to be held to a standard of at least showing that they have a fundamental economic plan before this government tumbles, not just a promise for more meetings that the Government has already done.
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Of course they have an economic plan. It is to redistribute the wealth from the "have" regions of this country into the pockets of their Ontario and Quebec business friends. Didn't you hear how often they cried about Magna's plight in Question Period today? Magna ... I've heard that name before somewhere. Oh ya, that's right, that's Stronach's company. Clearly the Separatist Coalition must seize power tomorrow so they can repay their debt to Belinda by bailing Magna out of whatever perceived plight it's in. And how long will it take the Liberals to figure out how to solve their own financial quagmire with taxpayer's money? That's no doubt part of their economic plan too. I'm sure they can figure out some way of doing that ... probably something to do with brown paper bags and bogus contracts.
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12-03-2008, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jade
I think Dion is going with the 'if I don't hear it it isn't happening' approach to interpreting Harpers plan.
from the speeches:
Harper
From Dion
Dions plan:
So he has a well thought out plan to do the same things proposed by the tories, who don't have a plan? Logic completely eludes this man.
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Umm... You do realize that Harper proposed all of these things after this coalition did right initially in their accord? The Conservatives have completed an about face, this is why this coalition is pointless anyways. If I were the Liberals (especially Rae and Ignatieff) I would walk away knowing that they yield true power in this government.
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12-03-2008, 07:41 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Regardless of an Alberta Seperatist party having sway in parliament, you cannot honestly believe the Bloc has had seperatist ambitions for the last 16 years. They just use the looming 'possibility' of seperation as a massive bargaining chip, or bargaining bludgeon if you will.
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You do know that Ducceppe went to the press yesterday and stated that this coalition is good for a sovereign Quebec right.
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12-03-2008, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
With all the venom flying around, it's hard to take all these criticisms seriously.
I listened to Harper, Dion, and Layton speak on the radio and all of them sounded fine and ALL of them stretched the truth to try and make their points. You either buy what they're selling, or you don't.... but things are getting childish not just in parliament anymore...
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I don't see venom, I do see outright laughter at how badly the Liberals have screwed their coalition party.
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12-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
You do know that Ducceppe went to the press yesterday and stated that this coalition is good for a sovereign Quebec right.
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It's all political posturing. The Bloc will lose support from Quebec hardliners if they don't mention it at least once in awhile.
Lip service from a politician is as believable from Ducceppe as it is from any other.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
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12-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I don't see venom, I do see outright laughter at how badly the Liberals have screwed their coalition party.
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Yup, it truly is laughable. Dion is an utter disaster, Liberal supporters cannot be happy right now. Without a proper leader, they stand zero chance of getting back into this right now.
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12-03-2008, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
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Yeah darn those communists and their disproven political system!
They just don't know when to leave well enough alone!
In all seriousness, is this really that laughable? Communism (in it's ideal form) is a leftist system.
On that note, would you be concerned if the Fascist party voiced their support for the Progressi-re-serva-form-atives?
Whoa, it's almost like a coalition or something.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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12-03-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
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Yah, the Communists were afraid that with the $1.95 a vote subsidy in danger of going away, the annual 2 for 1 pizza night at Chairman Frank's house wasn't going to happen.
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12-03-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jammies
Yah, the Communists were afraid that with the $1.95 a vote subsidy in danger of going away, the annual 2 for 1 pizza night at Chairman Frank's house wasn't going to happen.
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Pfft...you think they have enough votes to afford a pizza? Dream on comrade 
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12-03-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jammies
Yah, the Communists were afraid that with the $1.95 a vote subsidy in danger of going away, the annual 2 for 1 pizza night at Chairman Frank's house wasn't going to happen.
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I doubt they get 5% of the total vote and so wouldn't get that $1.95 a vote anyway....
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12-03-2008, 08:13 PM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Yeah darn those communists and their disproven political system!
They just don't know when to leave well enough alone!
In all seriousness, is this really that laughable? Communism (in it's ideal form) is a leftist system.
On that note, would you be concerned if the Fascist party voiced their support for the Progressi-re-serva-form-atives?
Whoa, it's almost like a coalition or something.
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So in all seriousness, you're okay with this?
As for my support of the conservatives that you imply, find a post where I've said I'm actually a conservative supporter. I hate all politicians. I just hate some more than others. What do I think of Steven Harper? I think he's an arrogant SOB who badly misjudged this whole situation and shares a good part of the blame for causing it, along with the Three Stooges. What he is not however, is a traitor. Figure the rest out.
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12-03-2008, 08:17 PM
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Man put Dion on TV more, it will help Canada see what a tool he is.
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12-03-2008, 08:26 PM
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Both speeches were pretty bad. Harper didn't say anything he hadn't already said, and I'm not sure the average person will know what his is talking about when he talks about RIFs.
Then again, Dion could have tried to say CAT and no would would have been able to understand him. Perhaps the third time he tried to pronounce it, but not the first. And I think the networks were late showing it because Dion's group had to upload it to youtube, at least that looked like the quality.
I don't think either of those bozos show leadership skills. They may be smart, but they have the charisma of roadkill.
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12-03-2008, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
So in all seriousness, you're okay with this?
As for my support of the conservatives that you imply, find a post where I've said I'm actually a conservative supporter. I hate all politicians. I just hate some more than others. What do I think of Steven Harper? I think he's an arrogant SOB who badly misjudged this whole situation and shares a good part of the blame for causing it, along with the Three Stooges. What he is not however, is a traitor. Figure the rest out.
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Firsty, I apologize for associating you with a politcal party.
Secondly, I am not affiliated with any of the 3 coalition parties (or any other for that matter).
Thirdly, everything you just said is correct. However, I don't think communists supporting the coalition is necessarily a bad thing. You would have to be either 80 or so rednecked you think it's 1963 and the Ruskies are about to fly over Baffin Island with their MiGs and AK-47s to take away your apple pie and Pat Boone records.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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12-03-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Firsty, I apologize for associating you with a politcal party.
Secondly, I am not affiliated with any of the 3 coalition parties (or any other for that matter).
Thirdly, everything you just said is correct. However, I don't think communists supporting the coalition is necessarily a bad thing. You would have to be either 80 or so rednecked you think it's 1963 and the Ruskies are about to fly over Baffin Island with their MiGs and AK-47s to take away your apple pie and Pat Boone records.
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Perception counts. Just like the Hot Air book behind Dion, the blurry video, the cowlick on one of the opposition MPs during Question Period today...it's the little things that stand out.
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