11-17-2008, 12:11 PM
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#1221
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
The way I read it - the refs thought the pass from LT was an illegal forward pass, and decided that the play ended right there.
But the fact is that even if it was illegal, it is not a penalty that stops the play so the result of the play should count as the Steelers could simply decline the penalty.
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Well, they didn't blow the whistle. So even if that were the case, the play isn't over.
But in reading up on it this morning, they thought the first pass was illegal, not the actual lateral that Polamalu picked up and ran in. They mixed the two up when reviewing some how. There would be no reason to stop the play if the first one was illegal as it would've been a penalty, not a stoppage of play. Either way, they messed it up.
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11-17-2008, 12:14 PM
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#1222
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Re: Steelers non-TD
The refs figured out there was a pass that hit the ground, and an illegal forward pass - but they mistakenly thought that the forward pass hit the ground (which would have ended the play.)
And apparently the ref wasn't permitted to return to the replay booth (to double check) after he has left. That may be a rule that needs to be changed lest a game be decided on such a silly gaffe.
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11-17-2008, 12:17 PM
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#1223
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Well, they didn't blow the whistle. So even if that were the case, the play isn't over.
But in reading up on it this morning, they thought the first pass was illegal, not the actual lateral that Polamalu picked up and ran in. They mixed the two up when reviewing some how. There would be no reason to stop the play if the first one was illegal as it would've been a penalty, not a stoppage of play. Either way, they messed it up.
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Yeah, I'm just glad it didn't affect the outcome of the game. There have been too many of those this year.
And does LT miss Lorenzo Neal? He seems to be hit at the line (or even in the backfield) a lot more than in past years. Or is it the fact that Rivers just doesn't scare anyone with his arm?
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11-17-2008, 12:20 PM
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#1224
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Not the one...
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Am I the only one that thinks the McNabb thing is no big deal?
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11-17-2008, 12:29 PM
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#1225
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
Am I the only one that thinks the McNabb thing is no big deal?
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No, but every time that opinion seems to gain acceptance McNabb goes on a tear and throws for an ungodly number of yards.
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
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11-17-2008, 02:45 PM
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#1226
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
Am I the only one that thinks the McNabb thing is no big deal?
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I think it is a big deal if the QB doesn't realise that if he is driving the field in the last minute of OT that he will not have another half to play if he doesn't score prior to time running out.
If he is taking his time and calling/running plays with the idea that he has all the time he needs and not 40 seconds left then I think there would be a pretty big problem.
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11-17-2008, 09:54 PM
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#1227
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Strathmore
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Thank you Brady Quinn and the Cleveland Browns! Man, the Bills have sure hit hard times.
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11-17-2008, 10:06 PM
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#1228
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
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There is nothing I love more than seeing stupid conservative NFL coaches lose because they refuse to throw the ball as soon as they are near field goal range.
Buffalo picks up 1 or 2 more first downs and they easily win that game. Instead their coach refuses to throw the ball and settle for a 47yd FG. Moron. I'm glad they lost.
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11-17-2008, 11:51 PM
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#1229
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flip
There is nothing I love more than seeing stupid conservative NFL coaches lose because they refuse to throw the ball as soon as they are near field goal range.
Buffalo picks up 1 or 2 more first downs and they easily win that game. Instead their coach refuses to throw the ball and settle for a 47yd FG. Moron. I'm glad they lost.
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Well the Browns had 1st and 10 at the Buffalo 39 (down by 1 point) and threw 3 incomplete passes so the clock hardly ran at all and they made a miracle 56 yard FG AND left Buffalo 1:45 remaining.
I'm not sure which coach was worse!
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11-17-2008, 11:53 PM
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#1230
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
Am I the only one that thinks the McNabb thing is no big deal?
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I don't think it's a huge deal. It's not like the guy wasn't trying to drive the Eagles in OT. I think it reflects more on Andy Reid.
Hate to say it, but I think this is Donovan McNabb's last year as an Eagle. The guy is due a big roster bonus in the offseason and there's no way Lurie and Banner will be able to justify it on a 32 year-old quarterback with a history of injury problems and an inability to win big games.
The Eagles will probably do a gigantic offensive overhaul in the offseason. They have to. Gone will be McNabb, L.J. Smith, Reggie Brown, and offensive coordinator Marty Morhninweg.
I expect Andy Reid will be given another two years to work with Kevin Kolb and then I think he'll either retire or get the boot.
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11-18-2008, 01:48 AM
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#1231
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Well the Browns had 1st and 10 at the Buffalo 39 (down by 1 point) and threw 3 incomplete passes so the clock hardly ran at all and they made a miracle 56 yard FG AND left Buffalo 1:45 remaining.
I'm not sure which coach was worse! 
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Scott Simmons on ESPN's Page 2 routinely drills Romeo Crennel for being a crappy coach, particularly not understanding clock management....just another example. You have a STUD, STUD running back in Jamal Lewis and you get your rookie QB who feels like he's got something to prove throwing 10+ yard passes. Like I understand throwing screens or quick hitches, but going 15 yards down field was just ridiculous.
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11-18-2008, 08:43 AM
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#1232
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Phil Dawson Rocks! Cleveland Rocks!
56 yards.
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11-18-2008, 08:47 AM
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#1233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Buffalo should avoid kicking field goals from 47 yards.
And Cleveland better shore up their pass protect. Quinn is going to get blitzed like crazy until he shows he can handle it. He showed that with time he throws a good ball, but take that time away and he was almost picked.
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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11-18-2008, 08:58 AM
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#1234
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Well the Browns had 1st and 10 at the Buffalo 39 (down by 1 point) and threw 3 incomplete passes so the clock hardly ran at all and they made a miracle 56 yard FG AND left Buffalo 1:45 remaining.
I'm not sure which coach was worse! 
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Crennel was let off the hook last night big time when Buffalo got excessively conservative. First he tries those three passes, but his kicker still gives him a 56 yard field goal. So what does he do...a fricken squib kick with over a minute and a half left....more or less putting Buffalo one first down from being in field goal range. Still Jauron had to one up him by thinking 47 yard field goal was good enough. At that point Buffalos #1 concern should have been picking up 15 more yards not managing the clock.
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11-18-2008, 09:09 AM
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#1235
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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I always have to laugh when you see the kicker standing on the logo at center field when he is lined up for a kick.
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11-18-2008, 09:28 AM
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#1236
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Crennel was let off the hook last night big time when Buffalo got excessively conservative. First he tries those three passes, but his kicker still gives him a 56 yard field goal. So what does he do...a fricken squib kick with over a minute and a half left....more or less putting Buffalo one first down from being in field goal range. Still Jauron had to one up him by thinking 47 yard field goal was good enough. At that point Buffalos #1 concern should have been picking up 15 more yards not managing the clock.
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Yes, CLE should have won that game much more easily. How many more passes did Edwards drop - two at least?
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11-18-2008, 09:31 AM
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#1237
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Crennel was let off the hook last night big time when Buffalo got excessively conservative. First he tries those three passes, but his kicker still gives him a 56 yard field goal. So what does he do...a fricken squib kick with over a minute and a half left....more or less putting Buffalo one first down from being in field goal range. Still Jauron had to one up him by thinking 47 yard field goal was good enough. At that point Buffalos #1 concern should have been picking up 15 more yards not managing the clock.
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The squib kick I can understand. They had squib kicked most of the 2nd half cause of the big returns earlier in the game. When when they went up 23-13 they kicked it deep and it got returned 98 yards. I would be a little gunshy too.
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11-18-2008, 10:28 AM
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#1238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flickered Flame
Thank you Brady Quinn and the Cleveland Browns! Man, the Bills have sure hit hard times.
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Things are looking surprisingly good for the fins this year.. This weekend against NE will be a good measuring stick.
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11-18-2008, 07:01 PM
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#1239
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Strathmore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Things are looking surprisingly good for the fins this year.. This weekend against NE will be a good measuring stick.
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Yeah things are looking good for the Fins. I was 80-90% certain they would be .500 but now I am hoping for a 10-6 season. And I don't think that is a stretch. The play the Pats this weekend at home, a game they could win. They then play the Rams and the Bills on the road and the Bills game will be inside in Toronto so one less cold weather game for the Fins. The next 2 are against the 49ers and Chiefs, again 2 games they should win and the last game of the year is the toughest one, in NY vs the Jets. Personally I think 11-5 wins the division but will 10-6 be enough to get into the playoffs?
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11-19-2008, 08:43 AM
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#1240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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The Dolphins have a pretty favorable schedule (as do the rest of the AFC East) to finish the season. At the start of the year that game in KC looked like a potential battle for the first overall pick in the upcoming draft. The Dolphins resurgance gives me some hope for my Chiefs next season. Now if the Lions could just win two games.
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