10-02-2008, 03:09 PM
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affect is it...
but whoever said impact... I'd go with that since people don't have many other words to mix impact up with.
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10-02-2008, 03:09 PM
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#22
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As a verb "effect"=cause while "affect" = influence.
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10-02-2008, 03:22 PM
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Yeah so I still think KG can use effect. The someone he is writing to can cause positive change, that is the point.
If they're just affecting positive change, then they're really not effecting it.
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10-02-2008, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
Yeah so I still think KG can use effect. The someone he is writing to can cause positive change, that is the point.
If they're just affecting positive change, then they're really not effecting it.
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Go to askoxford.com for uses of effect as both a noun and a verb in the same sentence. Or ask Locke! He seems to be quite the linguist.
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10-02-2008, 03:35 PM
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but KG is looking to positively INFLUENCE the situation, I don't think he's looking to cause change... or the situation.
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10-02-2008, 03:37 PM
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10-02-2008, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
Yeah so I still think KG can use effect. The someone he is writing to can cause positive change, that is the point.
If they're just affecting positive change, then they're really not effecting it.
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That is exactly right, if that is what words he was using. The thing is, yes he wants to effect positive change. But the sentance isn't written like that. You cant read the sentance, take the meaning and then try to pick the word that fits.
It has to be affect because the sentance is about altering or changing the situation. If it was written as "blank" positive change to a situation then it would be "effect" as in:
"I am writing to you to tell you how you can stand for change and
positively effect change in this situation.
But it is written as
"I am writing to you to tell you how you can stand for change and
positively affect this situation.
So as you see. The sentance is not "affecting positive change." The sentance is affecting a situation. That is the difference. It is irrelevent what the point of the sentance is, only the context in which it was written. You can not effect a situation. You can affect a situation to create an effect.
Last edited by FFR; 10-02-2008 at 03:42 PM.
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10-02-2008, 03:41 PM
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Yeah, I don't know. I was always told to use "effect" if I wanted a noun, and "affect" if I wanted verb. Obviously it's not that simple and was dumbed down for me... 
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10-02-2008, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by missdpuck
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No one is being mean to you. I was just wondering why you were attempting to respond to me when i wasn't responding to you. My comments had nothing to do with yours so why were you trying to defend yourself?
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10-02-2008, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR
quote=REDVAN;1454266]Yeah so I still think KG can use effect. The someone he is writing to can cause positive change, that is the point.
If they're just affecting positive change, then they're really not effecting it.
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That is exactly right, if that is what words he was using. The thing is, yes he wants to effect positive change. But the sentance isn't written like that. You cant read the sentance, take the meaning and then try to pick the word that fits.
It has to be affect because the sentance is about altering or changing the situation. If it was written as "blank" positive change to a situation then it would be "effect" as in:
"I am writing to you to tell you how you can stand for change and
positively effect change in this situation.
But it is written as
"I am writing to you to tell you how you can stand for change and
positively affect this situation.
So as you see. The sentance is not "affecting positive change." The sentance is affecting a situation. That is the difference. It is irrelevent what the point of the sentance is, only the context in which it was written. You can not effect a situation. You can affect a situation to create an effect.[/quote]
Well said. Hey I'm trying to multitask and watch the pre-debate debate while doing this. So perhaps I didn't read your post too carefully.The one befor the teary smilies that is.
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10-02-2008, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by missdpuck
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Its because thats how they're plan on letting you know they secretly like you... 
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10-02-2008, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale
Its because thats how they're plan on letting you know they secretly like you... |
You're my buddy Traddy. Yeah it's their silly way of geting attention 
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10-02-2008, 04:12 PM
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I don't secretly like any girls on CP. It's all out in the open. FFR, on the other hand... :-P
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10-02-2008, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
I don't secretly like any girls on CP. It's all out in the open. FFR, on the other hand... :-P
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Hey, hey, hey. Let's get some things straight. First. I'm female. Second. I'm married. But if that's what everyone wants to think - then go for it. I guess...
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10-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR
Hey, hey, hey. Let's get some things straight. First. I'm female. Second. I'm married. But if that's what everyone wants to think - then go for it. I guess...
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Aha...
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10-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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I don't know if this has been posted, but...
You can either cause an effect, or you can affect a cause.
(noun, meet verb)
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10-02-2008, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR
No one is being mean to you. I was just wondering why you were attempting to respond to me when i wasn't responding to you. My comments had nothing to do with yours so why were you trying to defend yourself?
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Don't worry I'm just having fun. It has to do with something on another thread. Hmmm I can't even get along with women that I didn't know are women. Wow!!!! 
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10-02-2008, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR
Hey, hey, hey. Let's get some things straight. First. I'm female. Second. I'm married. But if that's what everyone wants to think - then go for it. I guess...
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This is 2008, girls can like girls.
Don't spoil ALL my internet fun. 
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10-02-2008, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDVAN
This is 2008, girls can like girls.
Don't spoil ALL my internet fun. |
Now wonder Locke likes hangin with you
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10-02-2008, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevanGuy
"I am writing to you to tell you how you can stand for change and positively effect/affect this situation."
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I would use both: "I am writing to you to tell you how you can effect change and positively affect this situation." Then, whoever is reading your missive will say, "This man is a grammar GOD!!!" and do whatever it is you say in the rest of your message like a hypnotized sheep.
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