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Old 07-03-2008, 04:13 PM   #21
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Okay I agree that this is a bunch of stupid rules, but how the hell is this a tax grab????????
Very marginal increase in collected GST? I'm not sure that was the foremost thought in the Government's mind. Especially because its a provincial ruling....
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:48 PM   #22
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It's thing like this that'll make it easier for me to leave this province at the end of the summer. B.C. has it's share of problems but at least the fundies aren't running the show over there.
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:49 PM   #23
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I should also note that this is just going to lead to more people pre-gaming and more instances of drunk-driving, which Alberta already leads the country in.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:10 PM   #24
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It's thing like this that'll make it easier for me to leave this province at the end of the summer. B.C. has it's share of problems but at least the fundies aren't running the show over there.
they will kick you out at midnight though
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:19 PM   #25
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they will kick you out at midnight though
That hasn't been my experience there but I have only spent limited time in Vancouver and Victoria.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #26
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one thing they are tough on, is drinking and driving. ZERO tolerance.
the passenger can be sitting there, having a beer, no issue. but the driver, no alcohol period!!.
You can have open alcohol in the car?!?!?! Seriously?!?!?!

In Nova Scotia no open alcohol in the car, period. Doesn't matter if it's a passanger sitting in the back seats of a van, no open alcohol. They only recently made it legal to transport open boxed alcohol in the cabin of the car (ie: you have 6 loose bottles with you, or 7 cans of an 8 pack, etc)
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:38 PM   #27
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In Nova Scotia no open alcohol in the car, period. Doesn't matter if it's a passanger sitting in the back seats of a van, no open alcohol.
It's the same thing here. Does anyone know why it is this way? It doesn't make much sense. What harm does a guy drinking a beer in the backseat do?
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:45 PM   #28
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It's the same thing here. Does anyone know why it is this way? It doesn't make much sense. What harm does a guy drinking a beer in the backseat do?
I think its for the sake of busting the driver. If the driver is sipping on a beer and sees the cops, he can make the hand-off and plead innocence.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:53 PM   #29
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I don't go to bars ever, but this is ridiculous, I think. What next, the government telling us what we can wear?
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:29 PM   #30
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Am I mistaken or is "Last Call" now typically 2AM? So they reduce it by an hour and limit the number of drinks being bought and they also want to set minimum prices. Man somebody should take these bible thumpers to the woodshed. RubeCube is right Fascists!!! If only we could get conservatism without Jesus and pals. I'd vote for a party like that.
As far as I know last call is a fairly arbitrary thing. It usually happens between 1am and 2am. They are legislating how much you can get at 1am but AFAIK there is no legislation on last call specifically, unless I read the article wrong.
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I think its for the sake of busting the driver. If the driver is sipping on a beer and sees the cops, he can make the hand-off and plead innocence.
That's exactly it, and understandable. The theory of not having even a sealed case of beer in the back seat was it was within reach of the driver.

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I don't go to bars ever, but this is ridiculous, I think. What next, the government telling us what we can wear?
I'm ok with it as long as it's revealing

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As far as I know last call is a fairly arbitrary thing. It usually happens between 1am and 2am. They are legislating how much you can get at 1am but AFAIK there is no legislation on last call specifically, unless I read the article wrong.
Last call is generally the bartender(s) saying "alright I'm about to get ready to close up, so if you want a drink come get it now"
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:25 PM   #32
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After coming back from another tour of duty in europe, I have to say that I believe we are going the wrong way with this. In numerous European cities I could drink on the streets and in a few countries there was no last call. Even though this means the culture of drinking is very visible over there they neither encourage binge drinking, nor do they make it taboo or an alluring privilege. I think we have to stop hiding our drinking habits and show how responsible drinking is a part of many of this country's cultures.
Totally agree. I spent a year in Italy and I was hard pressed to find italian youth that were idiot drunk. Tourists, yes, but not locals. You can walk down the street drinking in full view and it was not illegal. Minimum age was (I think) 18, but it was not enforced at all. And that's not to say that the pubs were full of kids, I'm just saying that it wasn't all that unusual to see a couple out for drinks on a patio with their kid in tow. And if that kid asked for a sip of daddy's drink, pops would give him one and laugh at the grimace on the kid's face afterward.
Sometimes I'd see high school kids in a piazza sharing a beer and they just treated it like it was a bottle of pop. Nobody guzzling it or trying to get hammered... For better or worse, they'd just share a beer as a form of refreshment.

It really illustrated to me that when something is not taboo, young people aren't as inclined to want to do it or abuse it. It's an after thought when you can do it if you want to.

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As far as I know last call is a fairly arbitrary thing. It usually happens between 1am and 2am. They are legislating how much you can get at 1am but AFAIK there is no legislation on last call specifically, unless I read the article wrong.
I'm pretty sure that alcohol cannot be sold in Alberta between 2AM and 10AM and on xmas day. So it looks like they shaved an hour off "last call".
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:56 PM   #34
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I think its for the sake of busting the driver. If the driver is sipping on a beer and sees the cops, he can make the hand-off and plead innocence.
what does the Alero manual say about this topic?
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:44 AM   #35
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Won't someone think about the children??

We have some the most liberal laws when it comes to liquor practices in Canada. I'm not a college kid anymore, so I didn't even know that you could buy cheap liquor at the bars anymore. I remember Electric Ave. though. Crazy happy hour days back then. They would have insane prices and hand out insane deals for cheap draft kegs. I don't even want to know what I was drinking back then. So, I guess I can understand some of the logic behind it. Electric Ave. was a mess and it was mostly because of the high levels of testosterone, younger adults and drunkenness.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:22 AM   #36
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what does the Alero manual say about this topic?
The Alero manual says as long as you slam 5, and no more than 5, and dispose of the cups it's totally legit.
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