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View Poll Results: Which party did you vote for?
Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta 67 29.52%
Alberta Liberal Party 69 30.40%
Alberta New Democratic Party 8 3.52%
Alberta Greens / Green Party of Alberta 18 7.93%
Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta 38 16.74%
Alberta Social Credit Party 3 1.32%
Communist Party - Alberta 9 3.96%
The Alberta Party 0 0%
Separation Party of Alberta 9 3.96%
Independent 6 2.64%
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:27 PM   #421
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They're declaring Hinman as having lost, but that's close enough won't they do a recount?
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Look at it from an outsider's perspective. Trudeau tried to help out central and eastern Canada by sacrificing a few meaningless votes in the West. The majority of the Canadian population lives in Ontario and Quebec, it's just a fact. If there was a small island in Northern Alberta that always voted Green and had a large deposit of gold there, do you think for a moment that Ed Stelmach wouldn't jump on the chance to screw them over? How do you think the native people in Fort Chipewan feel about the tarsands? It's the same thing. Get over it. Face it, politically, Alberta is largely insignificant. No party can win any federal election without carrying Ontario.
They were actually a little more than votes. Try a few meaningless livelihoods.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:27 PM   #423
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Ultimately, Trudeau tried to implement a Canadian solution to a Canadian energy crisis. A politician can't be blamed for disregarding the needs of a large voting block (conservative Albertans) that didn't vote for him anyway. The NEP made him a hero in the Atlantic provinces. Like him or not, he was a very charismatic figure who is fondly remembered by the vast majority of the country.
It was hardly a Canadian Solution, and according to Marc Lalonde, it was partially put into place as a putative solution because Alberta wouldn't fall in line with his vision of Canada.

If there was a scumbag hall of fame, Trudeau would be right up at the front, and down the hall and to the right would be Jean Chretien who continued in his mentors footsteps in terms of showing his blatant hatred of this province.

I wasn't happy when Trudeau died his policies had a direct affect on my parents, but I sure didn't shed a tear when he passed.



The Liberal's will never get a foothold in this province.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:28 PM   #424
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I hate to tell you, Alberta makes up just a small portion of the population of Canada. I don't know the exact figures but I would have to guess around 10%. I would gladly sacrifice 10% of my herd in order to secure the other 90% in times of economic turmoil. Ronald Reagan's mishandling of the US and henceforth the world economy in the mid 80's is what led to Alberta's economy going down the tubes, not Trudeau.
Oh wow, this post makes me mad.
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So 10% is HUGE when it suits your argument, but tiny when it doesn't?
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They were actually a little more than votes. Try a few meaningless livelihoods.

Exactly. A few meaningless livelihoods, instead of a whole tonne of livelihoods in the East. The sacrifice of the few for the good of the many. I'm glad you see my point.
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Re: CBC coverage.. why are opinions of the average people so important that they get interviewed constantly and get their emails read, when most clearly have no idea what they're talking about?
To be an idealist, I guess this is the one day where those average people matter the most. Or are supposed to anyway.
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Look at it from an outsider's perspective. Trudeau tried to help out central and eastern Canada by sacrificing a few meaningless votes in the West. The majority of the Canadian population lives in Ontario and Quebec, it's just a fact. If there was a small island in Northern Alberta that always voted Green and had a large deposit of gold there, do you think for a moment that Ed Stelmach wouldn't jump on the chance to screw them over? How do you think the native people in Fort Chipewan feel about the tarsands? It's the same thing. Get over it. Face it, politically, Alberta is largely insignificant. No party can win any federal election without carrying Ontario.
So in effect what your saying is Canada is a country in name only according to your perspective, and entire regions should be sacrificed for the benefits of larger voting blocks.

And you wonder why Albertan's have a general mistrust and dislike of Eastern attitudes.
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Lol that's exactly what triggered it, the emails all night have been so dumb, but that took the cake.

It's so funny because that's what put me over the top and really stuck out the most in my mind because she seemed so sure of herself and so calculated in what she was saying.


Contrast that with people on email saying "ALBERTA SUCCKKKKKSKSSS" LOLOLOLOLOL.


Also did you see that pretentious ######bag who was on earlier talking about the single mother of 5 not going out to vote? or that the average person "can't figure out the voting system".


Yes, that's correct, the only reason most people don't vote liberal is because they can't figure it out :@


Also, POST SECONDARY EDUCATION IS NOT EXPENSIVE. It's 5000 a year....do people realize that the quality of education they are getting a world class education for a fraction of what they pay in the US.
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Look at it from an outsider's perspective. Trudeau tried to help out central and eastern Canada by sacrificing a few meaningless votes in the West. The majority of the Canadian population lives in Ontario and Quebec, it's just a fact. If there was a small island in Northern Alberta that always voted Green and had a large deposit of gold there, do you think for a moment that Ed Stelmach wouldn't jump on the chance to screw them over? How do you think the native people in Fort Chipewan feel about the tarsands? It's the same thing. Get over it. Face it, politically, Alberta is largely insignificant. No party can win any federal election without carrying Ontario.
And through your arrogance, you again destroy your own argument. The voice of Alberta is "meaningless". A man elected to represent an entire nation should be able to cast aside those parts that he doesn't like to suit his own idiotic whims.

You are doing a much better job of proving the argument that Trudeau was the worst Canadian ever than you are the opposite.
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They're declaring Hinman as having lost, but that's close enough won't they do a recount?
Its not automatic, but you can bet they'll contest it.
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Average people are highly overrated And that coming from an average person.
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Exactly. A few meaningless livelihoods, instead of a whole tonne of livelihoods in the East. The sacrifice of the few for the good of the many. I'm glad you see my point.
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Exactly. A few meaningless livelihoods, instead of a whole tonne of livelihoods in the East. The sacrifice of the few for the good of the many. I'm glad you see my point.
Ignore for you. I wish I was a mod, you'd be in the penalty box. Take my advice on the Pizza idea please.
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You really have no clue. The term is almost 160 years old.

I have no choice. On "ignore" you go.
Haha, we obviously don't see eye to eye on our sports teams but that was well played as I was about to mention the same thing. Nice work.
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They're declaring Hinman as having lost, but that's close enough won't they do a recount?
I think there is a margin where they will do an official recount if a candidate requests, been a while since I was involved in one of those so I can't quote the numbers
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It's so funny because that's what put me over the top and really stuck out the most in my mind because she seemed so sure of herself and so calculated in what she was saying.


Contrast that with people on email saying "ALBERTA SUCCKKKKKSKSSS" LOLOLOLOLOL.


Also did you see that pretentious ######bag who was on earlier talking about the single mother of 5 not going out to vote? or that the average person "can't figure out the voting system".


Yes, that's correct, the only reason most people don't vote liberal is because they can't figure it out :@


Also, POST SECONDARY EDUCATION IS NOT EXPENSIVE. It's 5000 a year....do people realize that the quality of education they are getting a world class education for a fraction of what they pay in the US.
Exactly... the problem in Alberta isn't cost, its spaces.

There simply aren't enough spaces for nurses, doctors, teachers, lawyers, engineers, other professional degrees and skilled tradesmen that this province needs.

Personally, as a student, I'd rather pay $10k a year if it meant a guaranteed spot, rather than $5k and be in a crapshoot despite having fair credentials.
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I havent put Johnny on ignore yet.. He still provides a source of comedy for me at the moment..
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