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View Poll Results: Which party did you vote for?
Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta 67 29.52%
Alberta Liberal Party 69 30.40%
Alberta New Democratic Party 8 3.52%
Alberta Greens / Green Party of Alberta 18 7.93%
Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta 38 16.74%
Alberta Social Credit Party 3 1.32%
Communist Party - Alberta 9 3.96%
The Alberta Party 0 0%
Separation Party of Alberta 9 3.96%
Independent 6 2.64%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2008, 10:16 PM   #401
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The word "Lib" carries a very negative connotation. It is no different than when the Calgary Sun repeatedly refers to the federal Liberals as the "Grits" in their editorials. Very irresponsible in my opinion.
What? Calling the Liberals "Grits" is offensive? What about calling a conservative a Tory? Do you know anything?
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:17 PM   #402
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Ultimately, Trudeau tried to implement a Canadian solution to a Canadian energy crisis. A politician can't be blamed for disregarding the needs of a large voting block (conservative Albertans) that didn't vote for him anyway. The NEP made him a hero in the Atlantic provinces. Like him or not, he was a very charismatic figure who is fondly remembered by the vast majority of the country.
And that right there is why the Liberals are dead in this province, and moribund federally in the rest of the west.

This may come as a big surprise to you, but Ontario east does not represent the whole of "Canada".

The NEP wasn't a "Canadian solution". It was an eastern-Canadian solution that disregarded the welfare of a sizable portion of this nation.

And while they are nominally independent of the federal party, the provincial Liberals continue to pay for the complete arrogance of people like you who forget that Canada exists west of Thunder Bay.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:17 PM   #403
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Slick, no one will notice the subtle topic change.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:19 PM   #404
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So Alberta is not part of Canada? My god, screwing Alberta into economic submission is a creative solution? Are you freaking kidding me?

I could care less about who likes him, HE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THE WEST, a west that was supposedly part of the nation he was tasked to govern.

Awful Canadian. Awful human being. And I didn't find the middle figure particularly charismatic.
I hate to tell you, Alberta makes up just a small portion of the population of Canada. I don't know the exact figures but I would have to guess around 10%. I would gladly sacrifice 10% of my herd in order to secure the other 90% in times of economic turmoil. Ronald Reagan's mishandling of the US and henceforth the world economy in the mid 80's is what led to Alberta's economy going down the tubes, not Trudeau.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:19 PM   #405
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Slick, no one will notice the subtle topic change.
Yeah it certainly got de-railed.. I guess once the election was all but settle people turned to another popular topic.. Deridding everything liberal
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:19 PM   #406
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i voted for PC Dave Rodney in my area. I struggled to find a reason why I should vote for Liberal and sorry definitely not an NDP for me. The Liberals did not convince me to change allegiance so I am sticking to my vote for PC.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:20 PM   #407
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Actually... OPEC... nevermind.

Go do some historical research into where "Western Alienation" actually comes from.

Yeah, Trudeau screwed up in his attempt to handle the Eastern energy crisis. But to declare him the "worst Canadian of all time" reeks of ignorance.
How about taking the worst run at civil liberties until the US Patriot Act came along? Creating a massive government that took us 30 years to pare down?

He was a pretty bad fellow.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:21 PM   #409
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and there it is... worst election turnout in Canadian political history... that explains that... the discontented all stayed home.
What was the turnout?
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But when the situation reverses and that sacrificed 10% is powering the economy for the other 90%?
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What was the turnout?
Brownsey estimated it was around 40% give or take.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:23 PM   #413
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All the Mormans live on the west side. That's why there is such a huge difference. If you've never been to Lethbridge, there's a huge canyon right between the west and east sides of the town, connected by a few roads and one big ass train bridge. West side - Morman, conservative Christian vote; East side - more metropolitan, left leaning people. Downtown is on the East side.
It has been pointed out already by many people how wrong all you said is but let me add another voice from Lethbridge pointing out the stupidity of this post.

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That is the main reason for the split. Also, it isn't much of a split between the two sides and probably one that can be explained more by the Seniors than the Mormon conspiracy that you promote.

Downtown is in on the East side but is in the West riding.
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Re: CBC coverage.. why are opinions of the average people so important that they get interviewed constantly and get their emails read, when most clearly have no idea what they're talking about?
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Re: CBC coverage.. why are opinions of the average people so important that they get interviewed constantly and get their emails read, when most clearly have no idea what they're talking about?

You mean that the old lady who said that Nuclear Energy has proven to be dangerous wasn't completely accurate?

Colour me shocked.
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I hate to tell you, Alberta makes up just a small portion of the population of Canada. I don't know the exact figures but I would have to guess around 10%. I would gladly sacrifice 10% of my herd in order to secure the other 90% in times of economic turmoil. Ronald Reagan's mishandling of the US and henceforth the world economy in the mid 80's is what led to Alberta's economy going down the tubes, not Trudeau.
I felt sorry for you and was trying to be generally polite to you until right about now.

You are now a combination of naive and ignorant.

I mean how many rediculous things do you have to say in a row before you just sorta stop and reflect for awhile.

So going back to your original post to me and tying it into this one, the real solution for Alberta is to force Red Deer to work for free, completely for the benefit of the rest of the province. I'll go grab someone from Red Deer to clean my house for free, and you can grab one to cook meals for free in your neighbourhood k? Who cares about Red Deer, it's only 10% of the province.

Please, never, ever, put yourself in a position to be responsible for anything more that the timely delivery of pizza's until you grow out of this phase you are in, because it's a scary mix being unaware of the world around you AND having no idea thaty ou are unaware of the world around you.
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And that right there is why the Liberals are dead in this province, and moribund federally in the rest of the west.

This may come as a big surprise to you, but Ontario east does not represent the whole of "Canada".

The NEP wasn't a "Canadian solution". It was an eastern-Canadian solution that disregarded the welfare of a sizable portion of this nation.

And while they are nominally independent of the federal party, the provincial Liberals continue to pay for the complete arrogance of people like you who forget that Canada exists west of Thunder Bay.

Look at it from an outsider's perspective. Trudeau tried to help out central and eastern Canada by sacrificing a few meaningless votes in the West. The majority of the Canadian population lives in Ontario and Quebec, it's just a fact. If there was a small island in Northern Alberta that always voted Green and had a large deposit of gold there, do you think for a moment that Ed Stelmach wouldn't jump on the chance to screw them over? How do you think the native people in Fort Chipewan feel about the tarsands? It's the same thing. Get over it. Face it, politically, Alberta is largely insignificant. No party can win any federal election without carrying Ontario.
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You mean that the old lady who said that Nuclear Energy has proven to be dangerous wasn't completely accurate?

Colour me shocked.
Lol that's exactly what triggered it, the emails all night have been so dumb, but that took the cake.
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I hate to tell you, Alberta makes up just a small portion of the population of Canada. I don't know the exact figures but I would have to guess around 10%. I would gladly sacrifice 10% of my herd in order to secure the other 90% in times of economic turmoil. Ronald Reagan's mishandling of the US and henceforth the world economy in the mid 80's is what led to Alberta's economy going down the tubes, not Trudeau.

So 10% is HUGE when it suits your argument, but tiny when it doesn't?
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The word "Lib" carries a very negative connotation. It is no different than when the Calgary Sun repeatedly refers to the federal Liberals as the "Grits" in their editorials. Very irresponsible in my opinion.
You really have no clue. The term is almost 160 years old.

I have no choice. On "ignore" you go.
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