12-18-2007, 12:39 PM
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#1741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by HOOT
From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. |
Weird.
From NFL.com ( http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessi...o&confirm=true)
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ELIMINATED
San Francisco, St. Louis, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Arizona, Chicago and Detroit.
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12-18-2007, 01:26 PM
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#1742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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I keep hearing it too, but looking at the stats and tiebreaker rules it doesn't make sense. I have no explanation for it...most likely if NFL.com has it as they are eliminated that is correct, I just don't see how.
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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12-18-2007, 01:30 PM
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#1743
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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Okay nevermind I forgot to factor in one thing:
Minnesota (8-6) plays Washington (7-7) next week!
If Minnesota wins they're 9-7...Philly's out because of record.
If Minnesota loses that means Washington wins, so the worst Washington could be is 8-8. Washington's 8-8 against Philly's 8-8 measures out like this..
- split head-2-head games
- division games they tie at 2-4
- Washington would have better conference record at worst 6-6 vs Philly's at best 5-7...
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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12-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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#1744
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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^^ That makes sense.
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12-18-2007, 02:42 PM
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#1745
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First Line Centre
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Happy to see Philly eliminated, hopefully some of their vets shut it down for the Saints game.
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12-18-2007, 03:01 PM
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#1746
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Pro Bowl selections -
NFC:
QB - Tony Romo (DAL), Brett Favre (GB), Matt Hasselbeck (SEA)
RB - Brian Westbrook (PHI), Adrian Peterson (MIN), Marion Barber (DAL)
FB - Tony Richardson (MIN)
WR - Terrell Owens (DAL), Larry Fitzgerald (ARI), Torry Holt (STL), Donald Driver (GB)
TE - Jason Witten (DAL), Chris Cooley (WAS)
T - Walter Jones (SEA), Flozell Adams (DAL), Chris Samules (WAS)
G - Steve Hutchinson (MIN), Leonard Davis (DAL), Shawn Andrews (PHI)
C - Matt Birk (MIN), Andre Gurode (DAL)
DE - Patrick Kerney (SEA), Osi Umenyiora (NYG),
DT - Kevin Williams (MIN), Pat Williams (MIN), Tommie Harris (CHI)
OLB - Demarcus Ware (DAL), Julian Peterson (SEA), Lance Briggs (CHI)
ILB - Lofa Tatupu (SEA), Patrick Willis (SF)
CB - Al Harris (GB), Marcus Trufant (SEA), Terrence Newman (DAL)
FS - Sean Taylor (WAS), Ken Hamlin (DAL)
SS - Darren Sharper (MIN)
K - Nick Folk (DAL)
P - Andy Lee (SF)
KR - Devin Hester
AFC:
QB - Tom Brady (NE), Peyton Manning (IND), Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
RB - Ladanian Tomlinson (SD), Willie Parker (PIT), Joseph Addai (IND)
FB - Lorenzo Neal (SD)
WR - Randy Moss (NE), Reggie Wayne (IND), Braylon Edwards (CLE), TJ Houshmandzadeh (CIN)
TE - Antonio Gates (SD), Tony Gonzalez (KC)
T - Matt Light (NE), Jason Peters (BUF), Jonathan Ogden (BAL)
G - Alan Faneca (PIT), Logan Mankins (NE), Kris Dielman (SD)
C - Jeff Saturday (IND), Dan Koppen (NE)
DE - Jared Allen (KC), Kyle Vanden Bosch (TEN), Jason Taylor (MIA)
DT - Albert Haynewsorth (TEN), Vince Wilfork (NE), Jamal Williams (SD)
OLB - Mike Vrabel (NE), James Harrison (PIT), Shawn Merriman (SD)
ILB - Demecos Ryans (HOU), Ray Lewis (BAL)
CB - Asante Samuel (NE), Champ Bailey (DEN), Antonio Cromartie (SD)
FS - Ed Reed (BAL)
SS - Bob Sanders (IND), Troy Polamalu (PIT)
K - Rob Bironas (TEN)
P - Shane Lechler (OAK)
Last edited by rubecube; 12-18-2007 at 06:07 PM.
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12-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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#1747
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Troy
Happy to see Philly eliminated, hopefully some of their vets shut it down for the Saints game.
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Not going to happen. Saints are in for a dog fight because McNabb and some of the other vets are basically playing for their jobs next year.
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12-18-2007, 03:10 PM
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#1748
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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Any word on the moneyline for the Miami game?
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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12-18-2007, 03:25 PM
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#1749
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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Not one player from the NFC South was chosen for the Pro Bowl.
Fred Taylor snubbed again.
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12-18-2007, 04:38 PM
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#1750
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#1 Springs1 Fan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: -
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Taylor defintley deserved a spot on the AFC team.
Very happy to see Saturday, Manning, Wayne, Addai, Sanders on the team, all very deserving especially Bob who should get some consideration for defensive player of the year
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12-18-2007, 05:54 PM
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#1751
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Pro Bowl selections -
NFC:
QB - Tony Romo (DAL), Brett Favre (GB), Matt Hasselbeck
RB - Brian Westbrook (PHI), Adrian Peterson (MIN), Marion Barber (DAL)
FB - Tony Richardson (MIN)
WR - Terrell Owens (DAL), Larry Fitzgerald (ARI), Torry Holt (STL), Donald Driver (GB)
TE - Jason Witten (DAL), Chris Cooley (WAS)
T - Walter Jones (SEA), Flozell Adams (DAL), Chris Samules (WAS)
G - Steve Hutchinson (MIN), Leonard Davis (DAL), Shawn Andrews (PHI)
C - Matt Birk (MIN), Andre Gurode (DAL)
DE - Patrick Kerney (SEA), Osi Umenyiora (NYG),
DT - Kevin Williams (MIN), Pat Williams (MIN), Tommie Harris (CHI)
OLB - Demarcus Ware (DAL), Julian Peterson (SEA), Lance Briggs (CHI)
ILB - Lofa Tatupu (SEA), Patrick Willis (SF)
CB - Al Harris (GB), Marcus Trufant (SEA), Terrence Newman (DAL)
FS - Sean Taylor (WAS), Ken Hamlin (DAL)
SS - Darren Sharper (MIN)
K - Nick Folk (DAL)
P - Andy Lee (SF)
KR - Devin Hester
AFC:
QB - Tom Brady (NE), Peyton Manning (IND), Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
RB - Ladanian Tomlinson (SD), Willie Parker (PIT), Joseph Addai (IND)
FB - Lorenzo Neal (SD)
WR - Randy Moss (NE), Reggie Wayne (IND), Braylon Edwards (CLE), TJ Houshmandzadeh (CIN)
TE - Antonio Gates (SD), Tony Gonzalez (KC)
T - Matt Light (NE), Jason Peters (BUF), Jonathan Ogden (BAL)
G - Alan Faneca (PIT), Logan Mankins (NE), Kris Dielman (SD)
C - Jeff Saturday (IND), Dan Koppen (NE)
DE - Jared Allen (KC), Kyle Vanden Bosch (TEN), Jason Taylor (MIA)
DT - Albert Haynewsorth (TEN), Vince Wilfork (NE), Jamal Williams (SD)
OLB - Mike Vrabel (NE), James Harrison (PIT), Shawn Merriman (SD)
ILB - Demecos Ryans (HOU), Ray Lewis (BAL)
CB - Asante Samuel (NE), Champ Bailey (DEN), Antonio Cromartie (SD)
FS - Ed Reed (BAL)
SS - Bob Sanders (IND), Troy Polamalu (PIT)
K - Rob Bironas (TEN)
P - Shane Lechler (OAK)
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Mario Williams got screwed over. He has more tackles and more sacks then Taylor and Vanden Bosch, yet he wasn't good enough to make it? Ridiculous.
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12-18-2007, 06:10 PM
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#1752
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan97
Mario Williams got screwed over. He has more tackles and more sacks then Taylor and Vanden Bosch, yet he wasn't good enough to make it? Ridiculous.
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Yep. Trent Cole and Aaron Kampman got snubbed in the NFC. Ray Lewis getting voted in is a joke. Hasselbeck going over Garcia and Brees is ridiculous.
Last edited by rubecube; 12-18-2007 at 06:13 PM.
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12-18-2007, 07:39 PM
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#1753
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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I'm happy Patrick Willis made it. He was awesome out there. On a poor team like the 49ers sometimes the players are overlooked, especially rookies.
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12-19-2007, 03:04 AM
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#1754
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
I'm happy Patrick Willis made it. He was awesome out there. On a poor team like the 49ers sometimes the players are overlooked, especially rookies.
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Willis has had an unbelievable rookie season. Definitely won't be the last time he makes the trip to Hawaii.
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12-19-2007, 09:59 AM
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#1755
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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How do they determine the coach for the pro bowl, is it the coach of the Superbowl Champions? If the NFC does the start with 10 player thing as a hommage to Sean Taylor to start the game....I can see Bellichik running a playaction play and going for a long bomb on a post pattern on that first play of the game to take advantage of one less safety.
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12-19-2007, 10:20 AM
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#1756
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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Man... Fred Taylor and Mario Williams were totally screwed!!! Taylor was a no-brainer in my eyes - Even over LT.
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12-19-2007, 10:38 AM
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#1757
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Moe
Not one player from the NFC South was chosen for the Pro Bowl.
Fred Taylor snubbed again.
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Originally Posted by flames_1987
Taylor defintley deserved a spot on the AFC team.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrayBullet
Man... Fred Taylor and Mario Williams were totally screwed!!! Taylor was a no-brainer in my eyes - Even over LT.
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Taylor had a good year but who does he replace on the team?
He has much worse numbers than LT, worse numbers than both Addai and Parker. His team isn't any better than the three above so it isn't as though he has helped his team out more than those guys.
Taylor has 4 TD's and basically no receptions. Those others guys all have better running stats and kill him receivingwise as well. He had a good year but was left off the roster because the three guys who made it clearly had better seasons than him
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12-19-2007, 10:56 AM
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#1758
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
How do they determine the coach for the pro bowl, is it the coach of the Superbowl Champions? If the NFC does the start with 10 player thing as a hommage to Sean Taylor to start the game....I can see Bellichik running a playaction play and going for a long bomb on a post pattern on that first play of the game to take advantage of one less safety.
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Well I am glad to see I am not the only one who could see him doing that. 
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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12-19-2007, 11:22 AM
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#1759
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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Lifetime achievement award for Taylor?
If stats and record were the only two indicators, Colston would at least be on the roster, if not a starter over Holt.
BTW, the Pro Bowl coaches are the losers of the conference championship games.
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12-19-2007, 11:23 AM
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#1760
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
How do they determine the coach for the pro bowl, is it the coach of the Superbowl Champions? If the NFC does the start with 10 player thing as a hommage to Sean Taylor to start the game....I can see Bellichik running a playaction play and going for a long bomb on a post pattern on that first play of the game to take advantage of one less safety.
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LOL! Nice one, Syl. Damn evil Bellichick.
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