2007 NFL Regular Season

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Seems there are some bad vibes floating the way of the Vikings....I wish the Giants would not make the playoffs and the Saints and Vikings do....but that requires a complete melt-down by the Giants (which is concievable) but not likely.

Hard to say. We're now in the prime area of Eli's worst games of the season a.k.a. the games that actually count. He has been horrible in the month of December during his career.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Hard to say. We're now in the prime area of Eli's worst games of the season a.k.a. the games that actually count. He has been horrible in the month of December during his career.

Well that and the fact Shockey is now out for the rest of the year, Burress is still gimpy, Toomer is just Toomer(see his hideous drop last night while being wide open).
I WANT this team to slip.....Just so it's easier for my Vikings to squeak into the playoffs after a horrible start.

But hopefully Kyle Orton plays the same as he did the last time he faced the Vikings (6-14 for 59 yards). But with the Vikes D being last against the pass, that's kind of hard to beleive.

[Sylvanfan]

Well part of the Vikings pass defence being last is that they have proven to be very tough to run against. The past few years the Chiefs had a seemingly good run defence not allowing 100 yard rusher's and low game totals. Fact was their pass defence was so bad that teams just threw against them because it was so easy. If they'd wanted to they could have ran all over them too! I think the Vikings at least have a good run defence and their pass defence is better than where it ranks. They just get a lot of work.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

There was a report I read somewhere that stated the day the season is over, Colston and his agent are going to be sitting in Loomis' office talking money. Well deserved. Jahri Evans needs to get paid as well.

Something else I think the national media is overlooking right now is the play of Drew Brees. After an 0-4 start where he threw 1 TD to 9 INT's, in the 10 games since then Brees has gone 266/373 for 2890 yards, 24 TDs and 6 INTs. Considering how much Brees has had to throw it this year, that TD to INT ratio is incredible. If not for that slow start(and probably the Saints average record), Brees would be a candidate for league MVP again(although no one's gonna pass Brady this year, and deservedly so)

BTW in the same span Colston has had 65 receptions for 876 yards and 8 TDs, which over a whole season projects to 104 receptions for 1,402 yards and 13 TDs.

[OILFAN #81]

Vikings win. Not looking good for the Saints to make the playoffs.

[Pagal4321]

Yipp-a-dee doo da, Tipp-a-dee day, My ohhh my what a wonderful day.

4 turnovers is BRUTAL, but the team still finds a way to win. Sounds kinda like another team I know.
Ahhhh, tomorrow's looking like a GRREEAATT day.

[Montana Moe]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Vikings win. Not looking good for the Saints to make the playoffs.

I think there is a good chance the Giants lose their last two, at Buffalo and vs. New England. Shockey is out, Burress is not 100% and Manning seems to struggle in the late part of the season (understatement). If they lose out, and NO wins out, they're in.

Saints just have to take care of business.

[HOOT]

Well two weeks left...I'm bored and curious so I made this little chart to show who still has a shot and who they are playing. I love this time of the year!

* Clinched Playoff Spot
** Clinched Conference
NON-PLAYOFF TEAM

NFC

1. *Dallas.............. 12-2 ....@CAR(6-8) ....@WAS(7-7)
2. *Green Bay........ 12-2 ....@CHI(5-9) .....DET(6-8)
3. *Seattle.............. 9-5 .....BAL(4-10) ......@ATL(3-11)
4. *Tampa Bay........ 9-5 .....@SF(4-10) .....CAR(6-8)
5. New York............ 9-5 .....@BUF(7-7) .....NE(14-0)
6. Minnesota........... 8-6 .....WAS(7-7)...... @DEN(6-8)

Still Got A Shot:

Washington............ 7-7 .....MIN(8-6)....... DAL (12-2)
New Orleans............7-7 .....PHI(6-8) .....@CHI(5-9)
Carolina................. 6-8 .....DAL(12-2)..... @TB(9-5)

- DAL clinches NFC with Win & GB Loss
- NYG clinches playoff spot with Win or WAS & NO Loss
- MIN clinches playoff sport with Win & WAS & NO Loss
- CAR are eliminated with a Loss or MIN Win

AFC

1. **New England... 14-0 .....MIA(1-13) .....@BUF(7-7)
2. *Indianapolis ......12-2 .....HOU(7-7) .....TEN(8-6)
3. *San Diego.......... 9-5 .....DEN(6-8) .....@OAK(4-10)
4. Pittsburgh........... 9-5 .....@STL(3-11) .....@BAL(4-10)
5. Jacksonville .......10-4 .....OAK(4-10) .....@HOU(7-7)
6. Cleveland........... 9-5 .....@CIN(4-10) .....SF(4-10)

Still Got A Shot:

Tennesse................ 8-6 .....NYJ(3-11) .....@IND(12-2)

- PIT clinches divison with Win & CLE loss
- JAC clinches playoff spot with Win or TEN loss
- CLE clinches playoff sport with Win & TEN loss

Side Note: Its late and I'm pretty tired so I appolgize for any mistakes...please let me know if I made any. Thanks!

[rubecube]

The Eagles and Panthers were both eliminated tonight.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The Eagles and Panthers were both eliminated tonight.

Philly beat MIN in Week 8 to win the tie breaker & Panthers still have a chance

MIN 8-6
CAR 6-8

If MIN losses both and CAR wins both that makes them both 8-8 so then the tiebreaker would kick in and they haven't played each other so it would go down to win/loss record in their own conference.

MIN 6-6
CAR 8-4

If that scenario played out...isn't that correct or what am I missing? I am not 100% sure of the tiebreaker rules.

Even if WAS went to 8-8 their best conference record could be 6-6; If NO finished 8-8 they would finsihs with a conference record of 7-6

[Trojan97]

This is a good site to explain the various tie-breakers.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/standi...rs-explanation

[transplant99]

DAL clinches NFC with Win or GB Loss

Not true.

Dallas can still win one and lose the conference if they lose the other and GB wins both their remaining games.

[Lurch]

It seems to me that Dal needs a win AND a GB loss, not OR as per above.

[HOOT]

Thank you! Like I said I was tired but not sleepy tired....and was sitting up bored and was curious what it would look like.

What about Carolina? Are they done? From the tiebreaker rules I read they still have a shot...a long one...but a shot.

[flames_1987]

To be honest at the start of the year I saw that Giants team as one of the worst in the league. I really can't call them a dissapointment because if anything the media just built them up to be more then they are. Can't blame Eli for sundays loss, the Giants just couldn't catch anything.

I've heard some conflicting reports about the Patriots and there stance on if they plan to play there starters these next two weeks for a good chunk of the game. I've already got them going 16-0, there's just a small part of me that hopes Brady doesen't beat Peytons touchdown record, but with the kind've season he's having with the amount of int's thrown, he does deserve it.

[Pagal4321]

Allegedly Carolina and the Eagles are sill in it....although both need ALOT of help for them to make the playoffs.

Analysis of next week's games:

WAS @ MIN : Whoever wins this game holds the tiebreaker against the other team. So if the Vikings win, the Redskins are out. If the Redskins win, they would bump the Vikings out of the wildcard spot.

PHI @ NO: If the Eagles win, their hopes are still alive (barely). Eagles lose, they are out of it. Saints lose plus a Vikings win eliminates the Saints.

DAL @ CAR: A loss here eliminated the Panthers.

NYG @ BUF: A win clinches a wild card spot for the Giants. A loss makes everything much tighter in the wild card race.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Allegedly Carolina and the Eagles are sill in it....although both need ALOT of help for them to make the playoffs.

See thats what I thought. The only team they can catch is MIN who are 8-6. If MIN lost both games and PHI won both games they would have a tied record of 8-8 each. But in Week 8 PHI beat MIN which would give them the tiebreaker and the playoff spot.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by HOOT

See thats what I thought. The only team they can catch is MIN who are 8-6. If MIN lost both games and PHI won both games they would have a tied record of 8-8 each. But in Week 8 PHI beat MIN which would give them the tiebreaker and the playoff spot.

Conference record is taken as the first tiebreaker. Philly is 4-7 vs the NFC, whereas the Vikes are 6-5.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Conference record is taken as the first tiebreaker. Philly is 4-7 vs the NFC, whereas the Vikes are 6-5.

From NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

[HOOT]

Being decided by a coin toss would be a horrible way to have your playoff hopes smashed!

Anyone know what is the furthest they have ever had to use in a tiebreaker?