Muslim employee at Canada airport fights dress code

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by fotze

The slippery slope never comes though. We are all constantly warned about it but the dire consequences never happen.

Actually it does exist, it has been happening, it continues to happen. Canada is not the first country for this to happen to.

[PowerPlayoffs06]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Her wearing a longer skirt is not imposing another religion onto anyone like a Christmas tree is.

Isn't it? Is she not trying to impose her religion on the company she works for by expecting that exceptions be made to company policies to comply with her religous beliefs? That sounds like imposing religion to me. Far more so than any mall Christmas tree I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by Burninator

Can you provide evidence for that?

What do you want? A scan of some company memo? Talk to any number of people who work in a retail environment and I promise you you'll find some who are told to say only Happy Holidays and not Merry Christmas.

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by Burninator

What does that matter? That doesn't change the validity of her claim of a religious freedom violation. If it is a violation today it was a violation 5 years ago.

which she should have brought up 5 years ago but instead she decided to take the job and wear the uniform she was required to wear. It doesn't help her cause bringing this up after not mentioning it for 5 years

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Can you provide evidence for that?

No Doubt...I have worked at IBM, Shawcable, multitude of software companies, Mcdonalds, Esso, Glencoe, Painting etc..worked with people of many cultures, race and religion..and never had a problem..in fact it has always been a source of comedy..(our differences)...guess i was lucky not to work with any tight asses..

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Burninator

What does that matter? That doesn't change the validity of her claim of a religious freedom violation. If it is a violation today it was a violation 5 years ago.

Well then, maybe she should sue them for harassment too

I bet this lawsuit wasn't even her idea, her friend just got a new husband with a law degree and needs to make a name for himself. He heard her quitely say something at a gathering and said you know, here is my business card....

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Well then, maybe she should sue them for harassment too

I bet this lawsuit wasn't even her idea, her friend just got a new husband with a law degree and needs to make a name for himself. He heard her quitely say something at a gathering and said you know, here is my business card....

Muse's lawyer is a member of the Law Society of Upper Canada and has been in private practice since 2000.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

It's funny. So many Cp'ers are self proclaimed Aethists. Always saying that the government should be secular. This is a government agency, is should be secular.

Equally funny that some avowed Christians want to see secularism when it helps surpress other religious traditions.
When atheists say they (we) want things to be secular, the general intent is that it should be belief system neutral, not that it should work against the practices and beliefs of others. Many atheists tend to be very respectful of an individual`s right to the code of conduct that their belief system requires. A longer skirt is one of those things where many atheists will look at it, feel that it doesn't surpress anyone's belief and doesn't favour one belief over another. It is belief-system neutral. Of course, not all atheists share that view, but a good many of those that I know do.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Actually it does exist, it has been happening, it continues to happen. Canada is not the first country for this to happen to.

What has happened to you personally on this slippery slope?

Anyone got any good stories?

Something like "I wasn't allowed to celebrate Christmas because of political correctness" or "I was forced to sit in a mosque because of immigrants" or "I had to take down my Christmas lights because they offended my neighbour" or "my children couldn't celebrate Easter because an Easter Egg Hunt in my backyard is illegal" or "my wife was ordered to cover her face at work so as not to upset a religious man who works there".

Having some kid at the Gap say "Happy Holidays" or dealing with a guy who can't speak English at Tim Horton's doesn't count.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by fredr123

Muse's lawyer is a member of the Law Society of Upper Canada and has been in private practice since 2000.

Okay...And?

Still doesn't mean the firm isn't trying to gain some attention from all this

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Okay...And?

Still doesn't mean the firm isn't trying to gain some attention from all this

That's true, but I still think I should win your bet.

[HOOT]

well if you can prove somehow that no one influenced her in anyway to go ahead with this lawsuit, you let me know

[jammies]

All I have to say is this:

Suck it up, princess!

PS - Uniformed women in short skirts? This thread is useless without pics.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by HOOT

well if you can prove somehow that no one influenced her in anyway to go ahead with this lawsuit, you let me know

Dude, that wasn't part of your bet. You said:

Originally Posted by HOOT

I bet this lawsuit wasn't even her idea, her friend just got a new husband with a law degree and needs to make a name for himself. He heard her quitely say something at a gathering and said you know, here is my business card....

Her lawyer is a female (not a husband). Your statement is false. I win. As payment, you can cover my CP membership fees for one year.

[Crazy Flamer]

Originally Posted by jammies

All I have to say is this:

Suck it up, princess!

PS - Uniformed women in short skirts? This thread is useless without pics.

Why should she? Its the employer who should suck it up.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by fredr123

Dude, that wasn't part of your bet. You said:



Her lawyer is a female (not a husband). Your statement is false. I win. As payment, you can cover my CP membership fees for one year.

Oh I missed where you said it was a she not a he and because of that make it 2 years of CP fees

[Option84]

To all the people who say people should be required to have a certain level of english proficiency to live in Canada, imagine yourself moving to China and see if you can learn Chinese as quickly.

[Crazy Flamer]

Originally Posted by Option84

To all the people who say people should be required to have a certain level of english proficiency to live in Canada, imagine yourself moving to China and see if you can learn Chinese as quickly.

No one is saying that if you move to China you should know Chinese. However, if you work as a cashier in McDonald's somewhere in China then yes, you damn well better know the language.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Crazy Flamer

However, if you work as a cashier in McDonald's somewhere in China then yes, you damn well better know the language.

Damn well better know it or what?

People who are fluently bilingual usually don't move to another country to work at a fast-food restaurant or a coffee shop.

[Crazy Flamer]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Damn well better know it or what?

People who are fluently bilingual usually don't move to another country to work at a fast-food restaurant or a coffee shop.

I think you may have missed my point. What I'm suggesting is that if a person moves to a foreign country and will be working with the general public in that country, it would be wise of them to know the foreign tongue.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOT

What is religon anyways? Its a personal choice and personal view you should keep to your personal time.


Nicely put.

It's kind of funny you say that, but want Christmas Pageants in school and to tell everyone Merry Christmas kind of contradictory. I guess as long as its Christian beliefs being extolled its ok...