Muslim employee at Canada airport fights dress code

[jolinar of malkshor]

You guys can make this into a race thing all you want. It has nothing to do with that. It is actually quite typical. Anyone that speaks out for the preservation of ones cultural identity and history is labeled a racist especially if it involves a Christian Country.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

You guys can make this into a race thing all you want. It has nothing to do with that. It is actually quite typical. Anyone that speaks out for the preservation of ones cultural identity and history is labeled a racist especially if it involves a Christian Country.

You don't have to speak out for it. You already can practise your cultural customs in Canada. This is a democracy, we are not holding you back from how you practise your customs.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

How so? What is wrong with treating everyone equally? Why is that so "dangerous"...

Nothing is wrong with treating everyone equally. What is wrong making compassionate accomodations? Would you honestly feel unfairly treated if you worked there and she was allowed to wear a skirt a little bit longer than the other women's skirts?

What I said was dangerous was rigid and inflexible thinking.

[HOOT]

The federal employment insurance agency has refused to qualify her, she said, because she is not officially unemployed – she can go back to her job if she conforms to regulations she considers to violate her religious rights. The welfare department has similarly denied her application, she said.

This makes me happy, I am glad the other parts of the government aren't bending over backwards to help this lady prove her point. Go work for an airport in the middle east and this wouldn't be a problem. I could almost gaurantee wearing pants in Canada is alot nicer than wearing a long skirt over there!

She is a like a 4 year old holding her breathe until mommy gives her the ice cream cone.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

If her ways are so damn good why come to Canada? I am all for immigrants to make better lives in Canada and to practice there beliefs freely......without forcing them on others.

How do you know she is an immigrant?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

Nothing is wrong with treating everyone equally. What is wrong making compassionate accomodations? Would you honestly feel unfairly treated if you worked there and she was allowed to wear a skirt a little bit longer than the other women's skirts?

What I said was dangerous was rigid and inflexible thinking.

Sure it sounds like no big deal...I don't know why this policy was in place..so i dont have a good answer for you...Also you give candy to one kid, you have to give it to all...that is dangerous...

Like people have said we are dealing with a couple of inches..Both parties are acting foolish really

[Kipper is King]

How could anyone say that this is "forcing" her religion onto others? This woman is not saying that she wants all female employees to wear longer skirts, she just wants to be able to make a minor adjustment so her religious beliefs can be met- without affecting her work ethic, safety or general job performance. It should be perfectly fine for her to do that.

Canada is a mosaic, not a melting pot!

[llama64]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

You guys can make this into a race thing all you want. It has nothing to do with that. It is actually quite typical. Anyone that speaks out for the preservation of ones cultural identity and history is labeled a racist especially if it involves a Christian Country.

This is what I find amusing about your position based on what I've read in this thread. You're calling down this woman for speaking out about preserving her own cultural identity. The important difference is that she is not trying to impress her culture on anyone else. Rather she is just trying to accommodate her culture with her job.

There is a lot of truth to your sentiment though. It's tough to discern when people have taken the push back against Colonial cultural oppression too far. But in this case you're off the mark.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Again, there is nothing wrong with believing in what you want, but the UK is essentially being taken over and estimates have it that by 2050, traditional UK residents will be the minority.

so I'm assuming you are one of these traditional Canadian residents that feels like your country is being taken over and you are not aloud to do things now, that you once could?

You sound like an elitist with a condesending tone to all "non traditional" Canadians.
Un-friggin-beleivable.

[Kipper is King]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Also you give candy to one kid, you have to give it to all...that is dangerous...

The "snowballing" argument is a valid one. But when the accomadation requested is this minor- then let it snowball!

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by redforever

You don't have to speak out for it. You already can practise your cultural customs in Canada. This is a democracy, we are not holding you back from how you practise your customs.

Affirmative Action??????

So how come children are no longer allowed to have a traditional Christmas pagent anymore? They can't practice that because.....oh.....it might offend some people".

I could list articles upon articles of political correctness gone so stupid you would be here for days reading them. But you wouldn't care one bit. Go ask the Brits how well the mosiac worked for them.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

How could anyone say that this is "forcing" her religion onto others? This woman is not saying that she wants all female employees to wear longer skirts, she just wants to be able to make a minor adjustment so her religious beliefs can be met- without affecting her work ethic, safety or general job performance. It should be perfectly fine for her to do that.

Canada is a mosaic, not a melting pot!

No she is not saying that, but she and the company would be opening up a can or worms. What happens when the next woman or man wants to wear different type of clothing than what is supplied to them. Do they get to alter their clothes too? And if not, why?

Religon should stay out of work and public schools. If you don't like your employers rules, find another job. If you don't like the school your kid if going to, enroll them in a private school that fits your needs.

What is religon anyways? Its a personal choice and personal view you should keep to your personal time.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

so I'm assuming you are one of these traditional Canadian residents that feels like your country is being taken over and you are not aloud to do things now, that you once could?

You sound like an elitist with a condesending tone to all "non traditional" Canadians.
Un-friggin-beleivable.

An Elitist??? Far from it my friend. All I want is for Canada to be Canada....you want to believe in something.....all the power to you but do it on your own time....pretty hard to go about my daily business as a normal Canadian when I can't even order a cup of fricken coffee because no one at Tim Hortons speaks any english.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by HOOT

What is religon anyways? Its a personal choice and personal view you should keep to your personal time.

Nicely put.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by llama64

White.

Christian.

Conservative.

non?

So what if he is all these things?

[4X4]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So what if he is all these things?

Doesn't mean the rest of Canada is.

[llama64]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Affirmative Action??????

So how come children are no longer allowed to have a traditional Christmas pagent anymore? They can't practice that because.....oh.....it might offend some people".

I could list articles upon articles of political correctness gone so stupid you would be here for days reading them. But you wouldn't care one bit. Go ask the Brits how well the mosiac worked for them.

No one stops my parents church from holding a traditional Christmas pagent. Or do you mean at a public school? Surely you can see the conflict there...

Last I checked, Catholic schools still hold religious ceremonies and events. Oh the oppression.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

An Elitist??? Far from it my friend. All I want is for Canada to be Canada....you want to believe in something.....all the power to you but do it on your own time....pretty hard to go about my daily business as a normal Canadian when I can't even order a cup of fricken coffee because no one at Tim Hortons speaks any english.

And Canada is a multi-cultural nation.....so deal with it.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Doesn't mean the rest of Canada is.

Who said it is and more importantly, what difference does it make if he is all these things?

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Sure it sounds like no big deal...I don't know why this policy was in place..so i dont have a good answer for you...Also you give candy to one kid, you have to give it to all...that is dangerous...

Like people have said we are dealing with a couple of inches..Both parties are acting foolish really

I agree they both could have handled the situation better, but I tend to sympathise more with the woman, since she's the one who had to pay the price (in the form of her job).

And I don't see the harm here in allowing the rest of the women to wear longer skirts, if they want to. Remember though the woman in the story went through the trouble of making the skirt herself and making it look identical to the provided one, just longer. I would bet most women would rather just wear the shorter skirt rather than going through the same hassle.