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Sample00 · 11-15-2007, 03:50 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7...PHCP&GT1=10637

wow! I am surprised!

damn wrong forum, please move if required

4X4 · 11-15-2007, 03:52 PM

Mental note** Listen to Rome tomorrow...

OILFAN #81 · 11-15-2007, 03:52 PM

Yup, saw this coming. I wish Griffey wasn't injured those few years he was. He'd make a great home run king instead of Barroids.

Resolute 14 · 11-15-2007, 03:54 PM

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Mental note** Listen to Rome tomorrow...

LOL!

I am seriously bringing a radio in to work for that alone.

transplant99 · 11-15-2007, 05:20 PM

Finally!

Again, he is so stupid because he could have avoided ALL this nonsense.

"Sure i did them, at the time it wasn't against the rules of MLB." Done and over.

Instead? "Nope never touched anything I thought were performance enhancing".

Moron and he deserves EVERY bit of what is coming.

Lying to a grand jury? Why FFS?

Dion · 11-15-2007, 06:13 PM

This could be the end of his career. With an indictment hanging over his head no GM worth his salt is going to offer him a contract. The negative publicity it would bring to that team would be a huge distraction. Then there's the legal stuff the team would have to go through to null and void the rest of his contract should Bonds be found guilty.

A guilty verdict would put an end to the asterix debate. Selig would have his record wiped from the books faster than you can say Bob's your uncle.

The only comment his agent has was what evidence do they have now.

troutman · 11-15-2007, 06:17 PM

Too bad Barroid didn't get indicted before getting his *.

Glad he is gone from the Giants, and that I can cheer for SF again without holding my nose.

albertGQ · 11-15-2007, 09:07 PM

Looks like Balco's career is over. Can't wait till the day A-Rod smashes his HR record

Table 5 · 11-15-2007, 10:47 PM

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A guilty verdict would put an end to the asterix debate. Selig would have his record wiped from the books faster than you can say Bob's your uncle.

Not so sure about that. Baseball has shown over and over again it doesnt really care what their players take as long as they keep hitting that long-bomb, despite the negative impact on the long-term image of the sport.

Dion · 11-15-2007, 10:53 PM

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Not so sure about that. Baseball has shown over and over again it doesnt really care what their players take as long as they keep hitting that long-bomb, despite the negative impact on the long-term image of the sport.

You could be right. I heard a similar comment this afternoon on one of the sports stations.

Pagal4321 · 11-15-2007, 10:53 PM

Yippie!!
I'm excited for the big, fat, giant * to appear near his name. And Aaron can retake his rightful spot at the top.

DementedReality · 11-15-2007, 10:56 PM

whats the big deal? who the hell cares about some guy doing steroids in a game. dont the courts and the government have better things to spend their resources of time and money on than this?

Caged Great · 11-15-2007, 11:10 PM

Everybody picks on Bonds, but nobody mentions McGwire or Sosa and their little run in 98. Pretty much any record set in the last 20 years should get an asterisk

OILFAN #81 · 11-15-2007, 11:18 PM

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Everybody picks on Bonds, but nobody mentions McGwire or Sosa and their little run in 98. Pretty much any record set in the last 20 years should get an asterisk

That's not totally true. McGwire was eligible for the Baseball HOF but got no consideration really due to "I'm not here to talk about the past, but to help for the future" crap.

moon · 11-16-2007, 03:08 AM

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whats the big deal? who the hell cares about some guy doing steroids in a game. dont the courts and the government have better things to spend their resources of time and money on than this?

At this point the government isn't worried so much about whether or not Bonds did steroids but that he lied to them under oath about what he knew about it. The government is not too fond of people lying to them.

Lurch · 11-16-2007, 06:30 AM

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At this point the government isn't worried so much about whether or not Bonds did steroids but that he lied to them under oath about what he knew about it. The government is not too fond of people lying to them.

How much time did Palmeiro get again for telling exactly the same lie to Congress, rather than a grand jury? I get a kick out of this whole thing - I'm sure the US gov't will spend literally millions on a gong show to prove Barry lied about doing something that's a misdeamonor at worst in the first place. I'm honestly not sure which side is dumber.

DementedReality · 11-16-2007, 07:13 AM

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At this point the government isn't worried so much about whether or not Bonds did steroids but that he lied to them under oath about what he knew about it. The government is not too fond of people lying to them.

i get that, but maybe what i dont get is why they are investigating it in the first place.

is this really an issue of national security ?

Table 5 · 11-16-2007, 08:30 AM

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The government is not too fond of people lying to them.

it's true, when it comes to lying, the government prefers to keep a monopoly.

transplant99 · 11-17-2007, 06:39 AM

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i get that, but maybe what i dont get is why they are investigating it in the first place.

is this really an issue of national security ?

They weren't investigating Barry Bonds.

They were investigating Victor Conte and his Balco labratories for selling steroids illegally. This was a company that was shipping HGH as well as steroids throughout the country and without prescriptions.

The FBI was in charge because of the interstate aspect of things which automatically make it a federal crime rather than a local state one. During the course of the investigation and through documents seized from the Balco offices, Bonds name appeared multiple times as both a purchaser and user of Balco's products and as a client of Greg Anerson his personal trainer. When this happened he was supoenaed to appear before a grand jury to testify what he had done while under FULL IMMUNITY from prosecution for anything illegal he had engaged in while a Balco client.

Instead of using his immunity and coming clean, he LIED to the grand jury about his involvment which in turn has led to his perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

I wish people would grasp this whole thing. The government is NOT prosecuting Barry Bonds because he took performance enhancing drugs, but because he refused to tell the truth about his involvement with a company that was illegally selling drugs. Even though he could of told them everything he kne and did without fear of any reprisals, he chose not too apparently.

he deserves everything he gets in this case including a couple years in a federal facility to think about what could have been.

DementedReality · 11-17-2007, 08:24 AM

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They weren't investigating Barry Bonds.

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he deserves everything he gets in this case including a couple years in a federal facility to think about what could have been.

thanks for clearing it up .. sounds like you have followed the case, dont you think there is some aspect here of a vendetta simply due to the profile of the case?