Roaming Cats...

[guzzy]

Originally Posted by Alana Flames

How can you possibly think that this is even close to an appropriate or reasonable solution?

PS: Your grandfather was very of squirrels? and the cats were eating them all? Am I to think that the cats were eating the squirrels here? Please edit.

The cats were killing all of the squirrels. The pellet gun is a reasonable solution. After a few welts from pellets, the cats stopped coming around. What is wrong with this? Please share. They shouldn't be roaming.....bottom line. I am not saying kill the cats, I am saying a welt will keep them out of your yard. I see no problem with this

[guzzy]

Originally Posted by Alana Flames

"cats are useless animals unless you live on a farm."

Just one more side note that I think is worth putting out there:

Pets tend not to have a "use". We keep them because they provide us with company and affection and so on.

Lots of things in the world that bring us joy don't have a "use".

I am entitled to my opinion. If you don't like it ignore it. I am not a fan of cats, especially the ones that used to tear into my garbage before the coyotes came into my neighbourhood. You talk of people and their pets......if these people had one shred of decency towards their cats, the cats wouldn't be roaming. People who have "use" for these roaming cats should not have pets period. I am sorry but I have no sympathy to those families whose cats get shot with pellet guns or eaten by coyotes. You left your cat out there, you deserve the penalty but unfortunately it is your cat who receives it.

[CrusaderPi]

So long as your 'joy' doesn't have any negative effect on my life (or my joy) I don't care.

But that's where the problem is, your joy's roaming problem make my life just a little worse.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by guzzy

I am entitled to my opinion. If you don't like it ignore it. I am not a fan of cats, especially the ones that used to tear into my garbage before the coyotes came into my neighbourhood. You talk of people and their pets......if these people had one shred of decency towards their cats, the cats wouldn't be roaming. People who have "use" for these roaming cats should not have pets period. I am sorry but I have no sympathy to those families whose cats get shot with pellet guns or eaten by coyotes. You left your cat out there, you deserve the penalty but unfortunately it is your cat who receives it.

Maybe it should be the humans you are mad at not the cats. They are only doing what their instinct tells them. They are no more useless than any other animal.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by driveway

Ooohhh how tragic that you have some cat doodie on your lawn. Your woes clearly know no end. And especially considering that it's happening to you of all people in the world! How could anyone be so inconsiderate to you? Those two square inches of your lawn are clearly so much more important than a child's pet. You are absolutely right to steal people's animals and truck them into distant parts of the city to die of starvation or euthanasia when they are taken to the SPCA.

Grow up and stop acting like a Canucks fan.

so for the record you'd have no problem with me walking over and taking a dump on your lawn or deck? Or did that suddenly become acceptable because its a cat??

Guess i'm just lucky i live right beside Nose Hill Park, where everyone owns a dog or a "lost cat" poster.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by driveway

Ooohhh how tragic that you have some cat doodie on your lawn. Your woes clearly know no end. And especially considering that it's happening to you of all people in the world! How could anyone be so inconsiderate to you? Those two square inches of your lawn are clearly so much more important than a child's pet. You are absolutely right to steal people's animals and truck them into distant parts of the city to die of starvation or euthanasia when they are taken to the SPCA.

Grow up and stop acting like a Canucks fan.

One of the worst posts Ive ever read - especially the Canucks fan part.

If people take care of their cats/dogs, keep then contained, and clean up after them, then fine. If they get out by accident, Im an understanding person. But when you see your kid playing in a sandbox with cat scat in it and the same cats are left out to roam, I have absolutely no problem fixing the problem.

[guzzy]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Maybe it should be the humans you are mad at not the cats. They are only doing what their instinct tells them. They are no more useless than any other animal.

I have said many times throughout this thread it is the owners and not the cat. I also said "IT IS MY OWN OPINION" that I don't like cats and have no "PERSONAL" use for them.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by guzzy

I have said many times throughout this thread it is the owners and not the cat. I also said "IT IS MY OWN OPINION" that I don't like cats and have no "PERSONAL" use for them.

I think you might be kind of missing the point here. It's a message board -- sure it's your own opinion, but you are expressing it in a public forum. People are going to challenge it. That's kind of the idea.

Anyway, I'm with you. I don't have a cat and I don't want one in my yard taking a dump under the window. If anyone thinks I shouldn't have a problem with this then yeah, what the other guy said -- do you want somebody to take a dump on your patio? Why not?

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Maybe it should be the humans you are mad at not the cats. They are only doing what their instinct tells them. They are no more useless than any other animal.

(For context, Jolinar's comment was directed at the person talking about a pellet gun.)

It's obvious that many humans cannot see the error in their ways; dispite the fact that there are by-laws telling people that they have to control their animals. So, as you said it is instinct to wander. However cats are also smart enough to know that going to guzzy's grandather's house will result in pain, and going to Ken's house might result in a hose being turned on him, so the best course of action is to avoid those yards and go poop in Jolinar's yard.

(For the record my aim sucks and I have yet to hit any of the neighbour's cats with anything yet. However I seem to have fewer and fewer chances to as they seem to have gotten the message and don't come over any more.)

[troutman]

[quote=Clever_Iggy;1055819If people take care of their cats/dogs, keep then contained, and clean up after them, then fine. If they get out by accident, Im an understanding person. But when you see your kid playing in a sandbox with cat scat in it and the same cats are left out to roam, I have absolutely no problem fixing the problem.[/quote]

You won't mind then if your kids hit a baseball through a window, and your neighbor "fixes the problem".

I keep hoping for the coyotes to get my wife's cat, but she is too canny. I suppose she may be a nuisance, but no one complains. She kills mice. Our neighbor's dog is much worse - always pooping on our yard, and ripping up our garbage. I suppose I could "fix the problem", but it's really not that big an annoyance now, is it?

I know cats are supposed to stay inside by law; by nature, they are 100% killing machines, and to lock them inside is cruel. Our cat would be climbing the walls if she wasn't let out.

My dad used to have an electric trap on his fence to shock cats going near his bird house. He heard some awful wailing one night, and took the trap away.

Be thankful you don't live in Athens - the city is full of feral cats.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

One of the worst posts Ive ever read - especially the Canucks fan part.

If people take care of their cats/dogs, keep then contained, and clean up after them, then fine. If they get out by accident, Im an understanding person. But when you see your kid playing in a sandbox with cat scat in it and the same cats are left out to roam, I have absolutely no problem fixing the problem.

Look, I understand that it can be a little aggravating to see your kids playing in a sandbox that cats have pooped in, but it's not hard to clean, and to take 'revenge' on the cats or the people who own the cats is lazy and petty. Besides, even if every single cat owner kept their cats inside you've still got feral cats, birds, hares etc. running around the city of Calgary pooping everywhere. Not to mention the people who don't clean up after their dogs. So to protest that you're trying to protect your kids from poop is kinda ridiculous.

And I stand by my assessment: killing, trapping, or other malicious behavior towards neighborhood cats because you are too lazy to clean up a sandbox is canucks-fan logic.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by troutman

You won't mind then if your kids hit a baseball through a window, and your neighbor "fixes the problem".

I keep hoping for the coyotes to get my wife's cat, but she is too canny. I suppose she may be a nuisance, but no one complains. She kills mice. Our neighbor's dog is much worse - always pooping on our yard, and ripping up our garbage. I suppose I could "fix the problem", but it's really not that big an annoyance now, is it?

I know cats are supposed to stay inside by law; by nature, they are 100% killing machines, and to lock them inside is cruel. Our cat would be climbing the walls if she wasn't let out.

My dad used to have an electric trap on his fence to shock cats going near his bird house. He heard some awful wailing one night, and took the trap away.

Be thankful you don't live in Athens - the city is full of feral cats.

Well I think I said that Im an understanding person when it comes to accidents... if a cat/dog gets out, I understand that, I have a problem with the cats that are allowed to roam constantly.

Didnt Athens kill thousands of cats before the Olympics?... or was that the homeless?

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by driveway

Look, I understand that it can be a little aggravating to see your kids playing in a sandbox that cats have pooped in, but it's not hard to clean, and to take 'revenge' on the cats or the people who own the cats is lazy and petty. Besides, even if every single cat owner kept their cats inside you've still got feral cats, birds, hares etc. running around the city of Calgary pooping everywhere. Not to mention the people who don't clean up after their dogs. So to protest that you're trying to protect your kids from poop is kinda ridiculous.

And I stand by my assessment: killing, trapping, or other malicious behavior towards neighborhood cats because you are too lazy to clean up a sandbox is canucks-fan logic.

"Canuck-fan logic"... I dont know how to respond to that.

Whatever you say - you obviously dont share my view on this topic, which is fine. I dont think it's lazy, petty, ridiculous, or Canucks-logic to take care cats/dogs that constantly appear on my property. I dont kill them, most of the time I trap them and call the SPCA. But strays or ones that return later on dont get favorable treatment... they get relocated.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by driveway

Look, I understand that it can be a little aggravating to see your kids playing in a sandbox that cats have pooped in, but it's not hard to clean, and to take 'revenge' on the cats or the people who own the cats is lazy and petty.

You understand that it can be "a little aggravating" to see animal feces in your children's play area? That's very big of you.

I do take issue with the whole "lazy" thing though. Who is really lazy in this scenario though? The person that lets their cat pollute a kid's sandbox with harmful, smelly and disgusting animal waste, or the person who doesn't want it to happen in the first place?

It seems to me that the person who refuses to look after their own responsibilities is the lazy one. Inconsiderate, rude, selfish, dumb, disliked, irresponsible. The list goes on and on.

[gordo67]

Originally Posted by driveway

Look, I understand that it can be a little aggravating to see your kids playing in a sandbox that cats have pooped in, but it's not hard to clean, and to take 'revenge' on the cats or the people who own the cats is lazy and petty. Besides, even if every single cat owner kept their cats inside you've still got feral cats, birds, hares etc. running around the city of Calgary pooping everywhere. Not to mention the people who don't clean up after their dogs. So to protest that you're trying to protect your kids from poop is kinda ridiculous.

And I stand by my assessment: killing, trapping, or other malicious behavior towards neighborhood cats because you are too lazy to clean up a sandbox is canucks-fan logic.

If I see a cat crap in my kids sandbox that cat will be dealt with. I am not going to kill it but I will trap it and take it to the SPCA. Chances of this happening are slim to none because if a cat is in our backyard I just let the dog out (too slow to catch them, but scares the hell out of them)

I don't let my dog poop in the area my kid plays so why should I let someones stupid cat do it