Who are you voting for to be Mayor? I'm voting for Sandy Jenkins

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

What about when it went from single lane to 2 lanes and they had to do all that work to widen the Centre Street overpass? Those seemed really close together and very short sighted from what I recall.

Over Harvest Hills Blvd? I can't even remember how the construction went under there. You'd think i would... I think I was in university at the time and the bus took us under there every day lol. Wasn't the bridge above long enough so that they just had to move the wingwalls underneath? although that seems lame too since it probably should have been wide enough underneath in the first place.

Anyway I'm not opposed to Bronco. With him around, we're finally getting the funding for infrastructure needed oh so long ago and I think he's handled the boom times as well as anyone. It's pretty tough to deal with that much growth over such a short time, regardless of who's in power. All the griping about roads and transit has less to do with the mayor and more to do with their planning and transportation groups. If anything the mayor has too much say over transportation. Let the professionals take care of that I say.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by broncoblows

Anyone but Bronco people. I believe in you Calgary!!!

ok Sandy.

[OzSome]

I hate to say this but I think Bronco will win the Mayoralty election which sucks big time if you gonna ask me. I won't vote for Bronco at all and will definitely vote for someone who will probably had a chance which I think is Alnoor. To tell you the truth I and some of my friends have never heard of Sandy Jenkins before until I check this forum so I think he's got a slim chance. If Bronco wins by a slim margin that will probably wake some people in the city hall up and start smarting up. I vote for Alnoor and I hope others as well. Enough of Bronco and it's time to get rid of him.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Alnor just has to much of a shady past for me to vote for.

[ken0042]

^^ Agreed. That- and I still can't see what he's trying to say in his ads.

Heard one on the radio talking about the legacy that Bronco has left behind. It has a lady sarcastically thanking Bronco for the GE5 interchange, now she gets to the traffic jam at 37th street a lot faster. Then Alnoor comes on and says we need to fix the road problem now. Which obviously can't be done; there isn't the money nor the manpower to pump $5B into infastructure in the next 3 years. Which brings me back to the shady past. He is putting ads out to make people just say "Yeah!" instead of making any promises. He says we need different solutions to our big city problems. (Yeah!) But what are they?

I suppose I could go hunting for the info, but why should I have to? Bronco and Jenkins have been effective in letting me know what some of their issues are.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I suppose your city would be miles and mile ahead if you had a mayor that would buck up and expand your LRT.

So, tell me again why Bronconnier is a tool?

Let me make something really clear, you arrogant little puke. MY CITY is Calgary. However I currently live and work in Edmonton. The Edmonton LRT system is a complete joke, which is a function of mayors of the 90's who did diddily squat when it came for transportation planning.

Bronconnier is a complete tool. What has he accomplished besides picking fights with Conservative governments at the Federal and Provincial level? His infrastructure committments have been a collosal failure and rather than planning to come up with a better solution, instead he falls to the lowest common denominator in Canadian politics - blame the next level of government. I'm sure Bronconnier will win the race, just like Mandel will in Edmonton, but that is more a function of a poor selection of alternates.

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by ken0042

^^ Agreed. That- and I still can't see what he's trying to say in his ads...

He had the right idea with them but they were horribly executed. Heard the one where the woman complains about the stinky person beside her on the C-Train? Somehow that is Bronco's fault? Does more trains mean less stinky people? Just laughably stupid.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

He had the right idea with them but they were horribly executed. Heard the one where the woman complains about the stinky person beside her on the C-Train? Somehow that is Bronco's fault? Does more trains mean less stinky people? Just laughably stupid.

There goes the people with perpetual BO vote for Alnoor.

I'm not a huge Bronco follower, but his blaming of the AB gov't for lack of spending or planning is correct any mayor would have had the problem of dealing with that gong show over the last several years.

That said I'm impressed with how things are developing now as it relates to infrastructure, it's behind, and will be behind for at least a decade, but we are moving in the right direction today.

As for some of the other ideas out there: Sending the west LRT to Mt royal, at the expense of Bow Trail may be the dumbest idea I've heard in my life, sacrifice several dezen communities that clog up Bow Tr, a road specifically designed to handle a LRT line just so people can take the ever popular downtown to Mt royal route efficiently is insane. And manufacturing a ghetto with a 22 story mustard seed with hundreds of tiny suites is probably the second dumbest idea. Which part of manufacturing slums in the 50's and 60's in large cities do people not get?

Anyway, Bronco's not great, but he doesn't have alot of strong competition. Pay the job 150k and we'd get better candidates.

[kermitology]

Just a question, but are there some people who think that the LRT going up Bow Trail is Bronco's idea because he lives in Strathcona?

That's just plain wrong. That line has been planned since Strathcona was built. I always wondered why there was this big open space beside Temporary Access Road (if you lived up there you know what I'm talking about), then I found out it's always been zoned for an LRT station.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Just a question, but are there some people who think that the LRT going up Bow Trail is Bronco's idea because he lives in Strathcona?

That's just plain wrong. That line has been planned since Strathcona was built. I always wondered why there was this big open space beside Temporary Access Road (if you lived up there you know what I'm talking about), then I found out it's always been zoned for an LRT station.

I thought the LRT was going up Bow to Westbrook mall, then over and up 17th to the Westside rec centre.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Let me make something really clear, you arrogant little puke. MY CITY is Calgary. However I currently live and work in Edmonton. The Edmonton LRT system is a complete joke, which is a function of mayors of the 90's who did diddily squat when it came for transportation planning.

Bronconnier is a complete tool. What has he accomplished besides picking fights with Conservative governments at the Federal and Provincial level? His infrastructure committments have been a collosal failure and rather than planning to come up with a better solution, instead he falls to the lowest common denominator in Canadian politics - blame the next level of government. I'm sure Bronconnier will win the race, just like Mandel will in Edmonton, but that is more a function of a poor selection of alternates.

Arrogant little puke? Are you serious? What the hell?

You did a drive by on Bronconnier while complaining about the transit situation in Mulletville. I pointed out that Bronconnier has expanded Calgary's LRT significantly. That makes me an arrogant little puke? What crawled up your arse and died?

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

I thought the LRT was going up Bow to Westbrook mall, then over and up 17th to the Westside rec centre.

That probably makes more sense now, but I'm just saying that it's been "planned" for YEARS

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

As for some of the other ideas out there: Sending the west LRT to Mt royal, at the expense of Bow Trail may be the dumbest idea I've heard in my life, sacrifice several dezen communities that clog up Bow Tr, a road specifically designed to handle a LRT line just so people can take the ever popular downtown to Mt royal route efficiently is insane.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a west leg that goes all the way down bow trail, plus branch that goes down 37th street? Of course, then we'd also want one that goes to the eastern industrial area.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a west leg that goes all the way down bow trail, plus branch that goes down 37th street? Of course, then we'd also want one that goes to the eastern industrial area.

well the branch thing is better than just a line to mt royal, but you'd have reduced service to the west end unless you had twice the cars since half will be going one way and half going another way.

[4X4]

Look no further than the London Tube system. It is art on rails. There are branches all over the place. Then they converge onto the same track to service the highest density area, the center of the city. It'd be like having a Forest Lawn/Industrial area branch off the Marlborough station (or franklin?).
Hell, a real ambitious plan could involve something of a ring line (also seen in London). That would keep people that are going from say the south to the university off the trains destined for the core.
I know, this is all wayyy off in the future.

It just kind of annoys me that we have all this space and we don't use it properly. We don't have the same issues that bigger older cities have like having to tunnel to build a transit system. We have all the space in the world. Might as well build a helluva transit system while the real estate's relatively cheap.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Look no further than the London Tube system. It is art on rails. There are branches all over the place. Then they converge onto the same track to service the highest density area, the center of the city. It'd be like having a Forest Lawn/Industrial area branch off the Marlborough station (or franklin?).

That's a great plan and all but what's going to happen when all of those trains get to 7th ave?

To be honest it all really doesn't matter to me...I don't live in the west, I don't go to mt royal, I rarely spend any time in the industrial area, etc. I'm a huge supporter of public transportation so I'd love to see all these legs put into place even if I'll never use any of them. Furthermore, I hope you all get your wish of more LRT lines and suburbia road infrastructure so everyone can get to the downtown core faster. Then when the new roads/lines allow you to arrive at the cluster-*uck that is downtown just to pay $30 a day to park or wait 30mins to catch a crowded train I'll laugh as I walk to work...

This city needs to concentrate on building it's infrastructure form the inside out! With all these new office building being built downtown we're going to see 10's of thousands of new commuters trying to get downtown on a system that's already running at capacity.

Back to the west line for a sec...perhaps a new feasibility study that isn't 25 years old is in order before any line is chosen? Most of the communities along the Bow trail line are 50ft. fronts zoned R1 similar to the communities serviced by the Lions Park and Banff Trails stations. Looking at the LRT ridership (http://calgarytransit.com/html/lrt_ridership.html) you can see that these stations have the lowest ridership on the NW line. While a park n ride at Westside Rec Center is probably a great idea perhaps the route to get there could use a little rethinking?

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Look no further than the London Tube system. It is art on rails. There are branches all over the place. Then they converge onto the same track to service the highest density area, the center of the city. It'd be like having a Forest Lawn/Industrial area branch off the Marlborough station (or franklin?).
Hell, a real ambitious plan could involve something of a ring line (also seen in London). That would keep people that are going from say the south to the university off the trains destined for the core.
I know, this is all wayyy off in the future.

It just kind of annoys me that we have all this space and we don't use it properly. We don't have the same issues that bigger older cities have like having to tunnel to build a transit system. We have all the space in the world. Might as well build a helluva transit system while the real estate's relatively cheap.

London's system is great, NYC's is amazing, both have similar spoke systems that consolidate into busy areas like TC or 34th St Penn Station, but this is Calgary, we need alot more density and people to support spokes and hubs. Let's walk before we run and have more than three legs before we start taking on models such as London's.