4 nations rosters

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Mat Barzal isn't good? I just do not understand how we can both be watching hockey and you can come to that conclusion.

I can understand the injury concerns but this tournament is in February. So I can see being worried about Doughty's timetable but not so much the other guys, who should have at least a month of play under their belt by the time the tourney starts.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Bedard, Scheifele, Thomas, Suzuki, probably Barzal though I don't know if Barzal will be 100% by February, probably a bunch of guys I'm forgetting.

Again this isn't difficult. If you don't understand that Robert Thomas is a better hockey player than Anthony Cirelli I just don't know what sport you're watching.

It isn't that black and white. You speak like your opinion is fact and anyone who doesn't share it is an idiot. Maybe just gear down a touch.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Buffalo trades Reinhart
Ottawa trades Stone
Chicago trades Hagel
Flames trade Bennett
Isles trade Toews
Ducks trade Theodore
Sharks trade Hill

What do these teams have in common? They all suck.
What do the acquiring teams have in common? They all won the Cup.

Is there an example of a team trading away a top player for futures that worked out well for the 'selling' team?

I don't disagree they were bad trades. But outside of Stone, which of those were top players on their teams? Reinhart was close but that team had Eichel and Dahlin.

As for your question - I'd say Ottawa trading Karlsson for prospects and picks worked out. Philly trading Giroux worked for them. Patches traded by Montreal for propsect Nick Suzuki.

Plus, are we really criticizing Chicago for trading Hagel in 2022 (for a lot IMO) because Hagel won a cup.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Really?? The US is clearly better and deeper in net... it is definitely not a maybe. I think the US has a deeper, if less talented fwd group, I think D is a wash... should be interesting.

On paper...the maybe is because in a 5 game tournament any of those guys can get hot or struggle. These are NHL starters not guys from beer league.

[Canada 02]

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Mat Barzal isn't good? I just do not understand how we can both be watching hockey and you can come to that conclusion.

I can understand the injury concerns but this tournament is in February. So I can see being worried about Doughty's timetable but not so much the other guys, who should have at least a month of play under their belt by the time the tourney starts.

Barzal is always a disappointment and underwhelming to me. Not good is overstating it but while he had a lot of points last year but otherwise, he's been not at a star level player outside of his rookie season. He's in with a bunch of other "not quite PPG" players and he provide zero help at his own end.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Bedard, Scheifele, Thomas, Suzuki, probably Barzal though I don't know if Barzal will be 100% by February, probably a bunch of guys I'm forgetting.

Again this isn't difficult. If you don't understand that Robert Thomas is a better hockey player than Anthony Cirelli I just don't know what sport you're watching.

I’m willing to bet a lot of coaches in a tight, pressure-packed game would call Cirelli’s number to jump over the boards before they’d call Thomas.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

To be fair, Backlund is definitely slowing down a bit. His experience and defensive acumen put him in the conversation, but he's getting old and doesn't add a ton on offense these days.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

LOL, Valimaki made the Finnish team! Yet another player given up by the era of Flames management I am probably going to despise the most.

[konradical]

The only guy id put Backlund over is Ardivsson. He is a C and is more reliable on the lesser role and isnt made out of glass. I expect Backlund to be on the team thru injury

[Canada 02]

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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

LOL, Valimaki made the Finnish team! Yet another player given up by the era of Flames management I am probably going to despise the most.

Pretty low bar to be fair...Olli Maata also made it

Vali has one point this season

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

To be fair, Backlund is definitely slowing down a bit. His experience and defensive acumen put him in the conversation, but he's getting old and doesn't add a ton on offense these days.

He would have to displace one of

Zibanejad

Erikson-Ek

Lindholm

Pettersson


He is no where close to any of them at this point....though I will say that because this thing is in NHL rinks and using NHL rules, he could play a 4th line checking role effectively if needed.

[Tbull8]

Or Lindholm can play wing...?

Also surprising is arvidsson over William Eklund. Makes 0 sense

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

LOL, Valimaki made the Finnish team! Yet another player given up by the era of Flames management I am probably going to despise the most.

Finns are extremely thin on D throughout their program.

That is not an indictment on Flames management as much as it is on the Finnish national program.

Dude has 1 point this year while playing bottom pair minutes.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Or Lindholm can play wing...?

Also surprising is arvidsson over William Eklund. Makes 0 sense

My guess is the Finns are looking for speed throughout the line up and Arvidson provides that in spades.

[dino7c]

Bennett pick getting ripped on social media but I take him 1000 times over Hyman

[memphusk]

Isn't Arvidsson a Swede?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

My guess is the Finns are looking for speed throughout the line up and Arvidson provides that in spades.

The chances of him being healthy are low...and yeah wrong team

[howard_the_duck]

Interesting seeing the rosters on paper. Sweden looks to have taken a step back, certainly in the forwards ranks. I think I like the Finnish team more.