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Old 11-06-2025, 10:44 AM   #11561
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I suspect it's not. Kadri's list seems different than others. He favours Canada and voids red states.
Kadri would be crazy to play in a red state (or even possibly a blue state). Makes sense he would want to stay in Canada.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:45 AM   #11562
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Ok, honestly, now that we are on a win streak - does management put all calls on hold because we are still trying to figure out if we have a chance?
Looking at the upcoming schedule the flames could find themselves hovering around .500 by US thanksgiving. There are 10 games before they play the Panthers on Black Friday and I could see them winning 6-7 of those games looking at the schedule. If they are 10-12-3 at US Thanksgiving are they pulling back on selling off anyone other than Ras?
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:46 AM   #11563
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I have a difficult time imagining trading Kadri to TOR. It isn't just the lack of assets, but the fact they have $86k of cap space. This pro rates to about $333k at the deadline. Which means that there would need to be ~$7M worth of retention + players coming back.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:47 AM   #11564
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Again, not what I'm referring too.

Someone specifically said "if he prefers to stay in Canada". Not who he has "preferred"??? on his NTC.
… dude… the entire context is that we are guessing who’s on his list.


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If Kadri's preference is to stay in Canada: Vancouver, Montreal, and Winnipeg all still own their 2026 first rounders. Edmonton, Toronto, and Ottawa do not.
…. Trying to guess who would be on his list and going from there into assets…
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:47 AM   #11565
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Maybe I missed it but how do we know the teams on his list?
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:51 AM   #11566
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Every Canadian team outside of Ottawa could be a good fit for Kadri. If the Canucks continue to be mediocre they make less sense as they could be trending towards having to deal Hughes and rebuild.

Edmonton is a no but they would absolutely love to have Kadri going up against Florida.

Winnipeg is a very interesting fit. They have spent 1sts chasing 2nd line C rentals so would they pay big to get one for this year and 3 more? Their team is built to compete for the remainder of Kadri’s contract.

Toronto like Edmonton has nothing to offer. Treliving loves Kadri and of course they would love to get him back.

Ottawa with Stutzle, Cozens, Pinto they appear to be set for the foreseeable future.

Montreal makes arguably the most sense of all as he brings veteran leadership, grit etc to a young up and coming exciting team. As Kadri ages out Hage rises up and seems like a perfect fit for a team ahead of schedule.


Is Perfetti, Yager, 1st too much to ask? Probably right?
No chance you get that return for Kadri from Winnipeg. Understand that Kadri would help them immensely, but he is 35 with lots of contract left.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:52 AM   #11567
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Maybe I missed it but how do we know the teams on his list?
We don't. We know Carolina is not, he has said he would like Montreal or Toronto so they are on it. Things he's said seem to indicate he likes Canada and probably not the US.

He can't avoid putting any US teams on the list, obviously.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:53 AM   #11568
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Again, not what I'm referring too.

Someone specifically said "if he prefers to stay in Canada". Not who he has "preferred"??? on his NTC.
Which arose from a discussion of who is on his list. Teams which he prefers would be included.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:54 AM   #11569
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Looking at the upcoming schedule the flames could find themselves hovering around .500 by US thanksgiving. There are 10 games before they play the Panthers on Black Friday and I could see them winning 6-7 of those games looking at the schedule. If they are 10-12-3 at US Thanksgiving are they pulling back on selling off anyone other than Ras?
If they can play .700 hockey in November, then it probably buys them another month before a decision is made. That's a tough ask, IMO.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:56 AM   #11570
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How is that treating him poorly?

It seems like it would be treating him fairly.

You would be okay reducing the pool of potential teams from 18 to 6 if Kadri prefers to stay in Canada?
Sorry, misunderstood.

Yes, any team not on Kadri’s 13 team list is fair game. He may have a preference to stay in Canada and perhaps the Flames can accommodate that preference if the margins are extremely small between two teams but otherwise, Flames need to do what’s best for them and I’m sure Kadri is well aware of that having previously blocked a trade to Calgary only to be moved shortly afterwards to Colorado.
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Old 11-06-2025, 10:59 AM   #11571
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Sorry, misunderstood.

Yes, any team not on Kadri’s 13 team list is fair game. He may have a preference to stay in Canada and perhaps the Flames can accommodate that preference if the margins are extremely small between two teams but otherwise, Flames need to do what’s best for them and I’m sure Kadri is well aware of that having previously blocked a trade to Calgary only to be moved shortly afterwards to Colorado.
Yeah sorry, I misunderstood the context too apparently.

I agree, if the differences are minor and Kadri prefers one to another, we should try to accommodate.
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:00 AM   #11572
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Sorry, misunderstood.

Yes, any team not on Kadri’s 13 team list is fair game. He may have a preference to stay in Canada and perhaps the Flames can accommodate that preference if the margins are extremely small between two teams but otherwise, Flames need to do what’s best for them and I’m sure Kadri is well aware of that having previously blocked a trade to Calgary only to be moved shortly afterwards to Colorado.
Also (not that it's relevant to the inital point), a team that knows Kadri is keen on them might be prepared to offer more (and avoid a Carter/Columbus situation).
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:08 AM   #11573
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If Kadri was to create a list based purely on politics I imagine it would have: Van, Edm, Winn, Mont, Ott, NYR, NYI, LAK, Ana, SJ, Chi, Was, Seattle. Maybe sub one or two with the Devils, Minnie, Pitt or Phil. For sure he'd stay out of Carolina, Fla, TB, StL and Dallas.

Maybe he's willing to overlook red v blue for a real contender though.

If he wants to stay in Canada he could also manipulate the list to include US teams with solid centre depth, non contenders and teams with cap issues.
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:12 AM   #11574
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Kadri to Montreal makes a ton of sense. Would be a great fit for that young team with leadership.

to MTL
Kadri
2026 3rd

to CGY
Dach
Zharovsky
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I think this is something realistic. Dach is an offload for them for cap to make the trade and gets a new opportunity in Calgary. Zharovsky is the skill player coming back along with the pick. Hage would be a great return, I just don't see Montreal giving him up.
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:16 AM   #11575
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Kadri to Montreal makes a ton of sense. Would be a great fit for that young team with leadership.

to MTL
Kadri
2026 3rd

to CGY
Dach
Zharovsky
2026 1st

I think this is something realistic. Dach is an offload for them for cap to make the trade and gets a new opportunity in Calgary. Zharovsky is the skill player coming back along with the pick. Hage would be a great return, I just don't see Montreal giving him up.
Yeah that would be a great return, and as you said it feels realistic.

Checks alot of boxes for us. Dach is still young and at the very least is a good stop gap.
Zharovsky has a sky high ceiling, similar vibes to when the got Brz.
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:18 AM   #11576
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The wildcard is Demidov is buddies with Z isn’t he? I’d retain full salary if they did Hage
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:19 AM   #11577
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1986478759633924424

Dreger talking about how Murray doesn’t want to trade Kadri.
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Dreger talking about how Murray doesn’t want to trade Kadri.
Ten pages of outrage incoming...
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Old 11-06-2025, 11:24 AM   #11579
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Ten pages of outrage incoming...
I know I’m ready to go ten pages about Logan Thompson getting snubbed despite being easily the best Canadian goalie in the league right now…
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Sounds about right. Flames gonna blow they chance for rebuild.
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