American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Gordon Bombay]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

You're right, I was thinking you were talking about maternal death rate associated with childbirth. I guess if it is the death of a newborn it is less tragic.

Also, the maternal death rate in the United States is roughly twice that of Canada and roughly 6 times that of Germany. Who could have foreseen that a system founded on not providing primary care to vulnerable populations ie the poor, the pregnant, and new mothers (who have minimal maternity leave as well) would have consequences? For anyone to comment on how good the United States healthcare system is, using emergency care as a benchmark, has absolutely no idea of health systems and the root causes of disease and associated deaths.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pub...d-10-countries

Ya... because I sure said an infants death is less tragic.

I guess if you agree that anyone should be allowed to have an abortion you would agree with something like that though. So maybe you were actually being serious.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

One more death in every thousand births seems small until you consider that in Calgary there are roughly 14,000 births per year so that is an extra 14 women dying in a relatively midsized city per year. An extra 50 in Alberta and a woman per day across Canada

But okay, that is pretty much the same.

Did you know that Calgary is the 33rd largest city in North America? Here's the list of the top 500;
https://worldpopulationreview.com/ci.../north-america

This is a completely irrelevant contribution to the conversation. Carry on.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

There is a #### ton wrong with the American health care system, but please. Where nearly 20% of Canadians do not have access to a primary care doctor and wait times of up to 2 years to see specialists, I'm not sure Canada is a very shiny example of good health care.

We may not be a shiny example doing everything right, and have a lot to fix on our end, but it is better than the American one by most metrics. Again, I don't think you'll find many arguments that Canada is perfect or near it.

[Fuzz]

The big takeaway is that we found an unexpected increase in infant mortality in Texas—about a 13% increase—that wasn't observed in the rest of the United States. This suggests that SB 8 was driving this increase in infant mortality

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/te...-infant-deaths


America, land of the dumb, home of the dead.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Imagine having a great retirement saved and up and having a heart attack in the US. Good bye retirement and hello working until death.

[Fuzz]

My wife would be dead if we lived in the states, so I personally don't think it's even a debate. It's no contest.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

My wife would be dead if we lived in the states, so I personally don't think it's even a debate. It's no contest.

Anyone with good/great insurance, which is about 2/3 of Americans, enjoy the best health care in the world. Of course the measure of any society is how well those less fortunate fare, and America is probably the worst when is comes to that.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Gordon Bombay

Ya... because I sure said an infants death is less tragic.

I guess if you agree that anyone should be allowed to have an abortion you would agree with something like that though. So maybe you were actually being serious.

Abortions don’t apply to infants, but good effort!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Anyone with good/great insurance, which is about 2/3 of Americans, enjoy the best health care in the world. Of course the measure of any society is how well those less fortunate fare, and America is probably the worst when is comes to that.

What’s interesting though is that life expectancy even among wealthier Americans only compares to poor people in other countries. So despite having access in theory to superior care Americans die sooner.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Anyone with good/great insurance, which is about 2/3 of Americans, enjoy the best health care in the world. Of course the measure of any society is how well those less fortunate fare, and America is probably the worst when is comes to that.

We weren't even less fortunate at the time, middle class. She'd be dead and I'd be left with a lifetime of debt. Trust me, I looked into it at the time.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by GGG

What’s interesting though is that life expectancy even among wealthier Americans only compares to poor people in other countries. So despite having access in theory to superior care Americans die sooner.

I've seen charts that show you need to make like $300k per year in the USA before you reach the average lifespan of people in the other developed countries.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I would prefer she not attend, but I think she committed to go prior to Trump really shooting off his mouth. To cancel now would damage Alberta's interests in my view. And it would not hurt to establish a positive relationship going forward.

If Trump starts to say nice things about Alberta, all the better.

are you insane? lol He doesn't even know where Alberta is.

Why not bring a 21 year old blonde virgin with big titties for the orange dictactor?

[FlamesAddiction]

Is health care in the U.S. strictly a federal thing? Like could a state put it in their constitution that universal health care is a basic right and then raise the taxes to support it?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I'm far from Mel's side here, but children's Medicaid (and I only have knowledge of Virginia) is generally a good program and free for families making under about 40-50k. It includes dental/prescriptions and is widely accepted.

iTs nOt FRee! Its pAId IN taXes!!!

[tjinaz]

Canadian system is so much better... why would they ever need to go to the US for anything. Its all crap anyhow right?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

Did you know that Calgary is the 33rd largest city in North America? Here's the list of the top 500;
https://worldpopulationreview.com/ci.../north-america

This is a completely irrelevant contribution to the conversation. Carry on.

Factor in metropolitan populations and Calgary drops down the list significantly. Calgary has a metro population of around 1.6 million people, which is large but not huge.

[MelBridgeman]

The top 20 per cent is likely paying 70 per cent or more of all income taxes

On average, two of every five Canadian households do not pay anything towards federally and provincially funded expenses such as health care, education, community and social services, national defence, public safety and even the good old Canada Revenue Agency

One household of every five pays much more than 70 per cent of all of those costs.

Thank you rich people for paying most of the healthcare bill!

fAiR sHArE

https://financialpost.com/personal-f...ng-up-the-bill

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Thank you rich people for paying most of the healthcare bill!

fAiR sHArE

https://financialpost.com/personal-f...ng-up-the-bill

Equality of opportunity, just like you asked for.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Equality of opportunity, just like you asked for.

Pay your fair share Pep!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Pay your fair share Pep!

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