[GT] 2024 US Election

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Again, it's pretty depressing that 7 states get to decide the outcome of elections for the other 43. Such a dumb, antiquated system that just makes no sense whatsoever in today's America.

I agree, but IMO the depressing part is that 43 states vote the same way everytime - that's the problem not the 7 swing states.

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

A big issue Harris had was also not being able to disassociate from Biden and answer how she would be different. Voters, especially the swing voters, wanted a change and she didn't offer it. I can give her a pass on failing to answer that question the first time it came up but I think she got asked the same question at least four more times on the national stage and she failed every single time. She should have been coached and prepared after being caught off guard the first time.

Okay but like... He has been held legally liable for rape, defrauded a child's cancer charity, is openly racist, and tried to overthrow the government, etc etc etc.

A kernel of corn covered in the feces of a hungover toddler should not get the support he did. This is an indictment on American society as a whole.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Shockingly he's approaching Obama levels in the popular vote, thats a stunner.

What are you talking about? Obama won by 7 and 4 points in his elections. Trump is expected to win by about 1 point.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, the autopsy on this campaign is going to be fascinating for political nerds. She was polling into landslide territory when she was harping on Republicans being weird and promoting policy ideas like putting a cap on grocery costs.

Then she made this bizarre pivot post-convention where her policy ideas sounded like they were birthed in the worst neoliberal think tanks. They also went to the well too many times with the whole "threat to democracy" message.

I imagine that not only the autopsy, but there will be tonnes of books written in the aftermath with a Democratic insider perspective, and lots of interviews that will not be kind to Harris, Walz, Pelosi and even Obama.



I'm really interested in the behind the scene machinations of this.


It sounds like people are leaving Harris' headquarters.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I predicted that the US just wasn't ready for a female president when Kamala got the nomination, and sadly that looks to be still accurate. They would rather vote for a convicted rapist/felon than a woman, their hate for the XX chromosome seems only slightly less than the Taliban at this moment. It's too bad the Democrats didn't learn a single ####ing thing from 2016, if Shapiro or Walz is at the top of the ticket it would have likely been a blue wave

Another way of looking at it would be the economy, inflation, immigration and not having Trump mismanage Covid led to a 3pt under performance relative to Biden.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Kamala, Cardi-B, J-Lo. What a dream team.

Its a p Diddy party

[calgarygeologist]

CNN has given Georgia to Trump.

[Ferarri]

NBC has Georgia to Trump.

[DoubleK]

I did not see this coming. Maybe part of that is living in Seattle for most of the year, but damn people in Arizona do not like Kamala.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

CNN has given Georgia to Trump.

It took them a long time to figure out the math. Leading by 118,000 votes with only 100,000 outstanding votes, could’ve called it then.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

maybe not the greatest strategy to go from calling Republicans weirdos on national TV to eagerly accepting Dick Cheney's endorsement in October

I keep seeing people trashing the Dems for their campaign, for Harris’ lack of policy initiatives, for not distancing herself from Biden on Israel.

Those are a drop in the bucket to the real mistakes.

The Dems lost because a) America is filled with an uneducated electorate who are b) easily swayed by propaganda and fear and c) they nominated a black/brown woman, which is very problematic due in large part because of a) and b).

Trump tapped into fear and hate, which Americans have in spades. Americans got grifted by a grifter. All this nitpicking about the Harris campaign is grasping at straws.

Trump won because he’s the leader Americans want and most identify with. Since Harris will never be Trump, it didn’t matter how perfect her campaign was. Even for a white man it would have been difficult for the Dems to win. The democratic party’s platform doesn’t align with the electorate in its current form.

[JBR]

The needle is pretty much pinned to the right.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

CNN has given Georgia to Trump.

I was wondering how long that would take.


It looks like PA is going to go to Trump as well at 80% of the vote and Trump's lead expanding to 3.


Wis is at 82% of the vote with a 4 point lead. If those two fall to Trump this thing is over.

[Sultan]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

NBC has Georgia to Trump.

Georgia i get from the measures that were put in.

Honest question, Penn shouldn't be called for a couple hours. Has it been called yet anywhere, or just online?

I am watching my odds go up so I am curious.

[blender]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

It will be the most important election of our lifetimes.

I thought this one was?

Climate change is going to sort us all out anyway, so none of this really matters.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I did not see this coming. Maybe part of that is living in Seattle for most of the year, but damn people in Arizona do not like Kamala.

Isn't Arizona extremely close?

[InternationalVillager]

pretty shocked at the result. looks like america still has the same issues as 8 years ago.

white women with no college degrees broke for trump.

even with abortion rights on the ballot.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by MonaTone

Okay but like... He has been held legally liable for rape, defrauded a child's cancer charity, is openly racist, and tried to overthrow the government, etc etc etc.

A kernel of corn covered in the feces of a hungover toddler should not get the support he did. This is an indictment on American society as a whole.

Okay...so what is the path forward for the Dems to win over voters? If you can't beat a pile of feces that is not a good look.

[Bagor]

My rough math has about 700k votes left in PA.

Harris would need to win ~440k of them or 63% of the remaining votes.

It's done.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by blender

I thought this one was?

Climate change is going to sort us all out anyway, so none of this really matters.

Its ok bill Gates will save the world with his chemical cloud to block the sun